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The Clipster is a personal video recorder for video blogs like Channel 9 that we’ve integrated into our embedded media player.   

How do I use it?

It is so easy!  We’ve added a red record button to the embedded video player on Channel 9.  

  1. Select the red record button to start recording. Select it again when you are done.
  2. Specify the title of the clip(s) you’ve recorded.
  3. Select Save.  That is it!  

The clips are available from your Channel 9 Profile page.  We also provide links to clips below each of our videos to clips we and the community have created. Each clip has its own URL.  Link to it from your blog, share your clips with your friends and family.

Disclaimer:  At this time we are only supporting Internet Explorer, BUT we do want to work on getting Clipster to work in other browsers.  If you any suggestions towards that goal please send us an email.


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  • keeronkeeron Obsessive Geek

    AWESOME! This is really cool feature... a post-it type of tool for videos Smiley

    How difficult would it be to add our own video? (if we mute the original one, can we record voice over it? like comments or suggestions, etc?)

    We could build our own list of fav demos from Channel9 Videos out of this ... with an RSS feed!!! (Think amazon Lists mania Smiley )...

    Ok, I need to go back to watching videos and saving these clips, I am getting too excited!

    keep up the hard work guys!

  • scobleizerscobleizer I'm the video guy
    It would be really hard, unfortunately. Getting a video uploaded to our download and streaming datafarms takes about 20 minutes each and you have to both be a Microsoft employee to do it, and you have to have a second employee sign off on it.

    That said, I want this feature in the worst way too. There are a lot of sites around where you can upload videos, by the way.
  • MisterDonutMisterDonut The Disco Godfather
    Nice job, Robert.

    Two things, second one being in another post..

    1) Any chance of re-adding that button to launch the video in WMP? I enjoy minimizing WMP and running it from the task bar while I'm working.

    2) Any chance at all at having Channel 9 being more PDA friendly? As in, if I'm surfing the internet on my JasJar and want to swing by channel 9? It's interesting to how it looks.. Sad

  • scobleizerscobleizer I'm the video guy
    If you wanna run in the separate player, you should click "download" and watch that link (the quality is usually better on the download link too cause I encode those at 500 kbps, while the ones in the player are only at 300kbps).
  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    Very, very cool.

    Feature request: show a list of clips for a particular video in the post for that video.  this would allow the community to essentially have bookmarks.

    EDIT: I noticed that it's already there if the media has clips.  Again, good job.

    Any chance of getting a behind-the-scenes look at how this was put together?  While I think most of us have a semantical understanding of how this is accomplished, it'd be neat to hear from Adam about the challenges he faced and what tools and methods he used to achieve a solution.

    This is one of those "wow" features that will end up being only as cool as the C9 community makes it.  If we don't use it much, it will go down as a "cool work, but mostly we like to just watch videos and chat in the coffeehouse."

    So let's use it!  I'd like to see some sort of best-of-C9 wiki with links to the best moments of the best C9 videos.
  • Jeff Sandquistjeffsand Inch by Inch
    Larsenal wrote:
    Very, very cool.

    Feature request: show a list of clips for a particular video in the post for that video.  this would allow the community to essentially have bookmarks.

    Any chance of getting a behind-the-scenes look at how this was put together?  While I think most of us have a semantical understanding of how this is accomplished, it'd be neat to hear from Adam about the challenges he faced and what tools and methods he used to achieve a solution.

    This is one of those "wow" features that will end up being only as cool as the C9 community makes it.  If we don't use it much, it will go down as a "cool work, but mostly we like to just watch videos and chat in the coffeehouse."

    So let's use it!  I'd like to see some sort of best-of-C9 wiki with links to the best moments of the best C9 videos.


    We have the feature of highlighting clips for a particular video.

    Check out this video and note the Clips: section above Tags:

    We list out all clips there, if a [ more link ] is shown after this you'll see Clips made by the community too.   Smiley

    Adam Kinney did some few clips tonight, check them out on his profile http://channel9.msdn.com/niners/adamkinney/

    I think we need to also add a show me all the clips view to our videos page if this keeps off.

    We'll do a behind the scenes video soon.
  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    Thanks, Jeff.
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Very cool, Adam!  Great job!  Smiley

    I like that all the clips are shown for each video.  I didn't see it at first.

    Can't wait to see the behind the scenes video!
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Btw, I think once this takes off and lots of people are creating "highlights" for videos, people like me who don't have a whole lot of time can start watching more videos.  If I don't have a spare hour in my day to watch a video that I think will have some cool stuff I'm really interested in, I can now just wait for some people to clipperize the highlights and I can see what's interesting and important.  Very awesome!

    Another thought: Any chance of getting an option down the road to be able to get a permalink per video?  Say I watch a video and think there are just 5 really cool parts that I'd love to blog about.  If I could get some sort of link per video that I've created that would be great to slam out a blog entry quickly.

    Again, great job!
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Sorry to do yet another post, but what about e-mail?  Can you make it so I can easily create n number of clips for a video and enter n number of e-mail addresses and have it send them out?  That's a lot cooler than sending an IM to someone saying, Hey, did you see that video, watch it, it's cool.
  • ManniManni The Force be with You
    Nice, nice!
  • MinhMinh WOOH!  WOOH!

    Great idea w/ Clipster & overall changes to the Profile. I'm really digging them. A couple of thoughts on the new video layout.

    * The "Fullscreen" button just returns the ASX file associated w/ a video -- which launches the external player. That's never fullscreen by default. You can instantly go fullscreen by double-clicking on the playing video window, BTW.

    * You could also add the "Fullscreen" (let's call it "External Player") button to the FireFox version & you'll have it the way it used to work.

  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    Can we tag our clips?
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Larsenal, aren't they already "tagged" in that they're for a particular video?
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    User tagging is not available at this time.

    Adam Kinney(especially) and David Shadle deserve the bulk of the credit for this innovation.

    Great work.

    C
  • Adam KinneyAdamKinney Agent of Change
    First off, I'm happy to see all of the compliments.  This was just a crazy idea that quickly became a reality.  Definitely a lot of fun, and now to answer some comments:

    MisterDonut wrote:


    1) Any chance of re-adding that button to launch the video in WMP? I enjoy minimizing WMP and running it from the task bar while I'm working.



    To launch the video outside of the webpage you click the "Full Screen" button, as Minh points out its not a full screen video but the player can take up the full screen.  "External Player" is more descriptive, but doesn't flow as well. Something to be considered.

    As far FireFox goes, the media player is not enabled and you get a "Watch" button.  As the disclaimer reads it'd be great to get the player to work in browsers other than IE, but that will hopefully come at a later date.   I actually didn't have any time to see what else is available yet.

    Larsenal wrote:


    Any chance of getting a behind-the-scenes look at how this was put together?  While I think most of us have a semantical understanding of how this is accomplished, it'd be neat to hear from Adam about the challenges he faced and what tools and methods he used to achieve a solution.



    Yes, definitely.  I plan to write up how it came together (or as Jeff mentioned maybe a video).  But today is was tough enough getting the screencast together along with everything else Smiley

    HumanCompiler wrote:

    Another thought: Any chance of getting an option down the road to be able to get a permalink per video?  Say I watch a video and think there are just 5 really cool parts that I'd love to blog about.  If I could get some sort of link per video that I've created that would be great to slam out a blog entry quickly.


    So I'm sure you noticed that each clip has a permalink, but it sounds like you're taking about a playlist funcitonality.  Playlists were something delayed so we could ship, next time around maybe we'll see them.

    HumanCompiler wrote:
    Can you make it so I can easily create n number of clips for a video and enter n number of e-mail addresses and have it send them out?


    Interesting idea, kind of like an invitation.

    Minh wrote:

    Great idea w/ Clipster & overall changes to the Profile. I'm really digging them.


    Yes, profile has been fixed! Big Smile


  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    HumanCompiler wrote:
    Larsenal, aren't they already "tagged" in that they're for a particular video?


    Yes, although some videos--especially the ones that are more personality focused--cover a wide variety of topics.

    Exampes:  this one with Iain McDonald, the Jim Allchin one, and the Bill Hill ones (here for example).

    As far as I understand it, part of what's cool here is that our media searches will get better as content is more specifically tagged.
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    Larsenal wrote:
    HumanCompiler wrote: Larsenal, aren't they already "tagged" in that they're for a particular video?


    As far as I understand it, part of what's cool here is that our media searches will get better as content is more specifically tagged.


    Yes. You understand correctly. Tagging is a classification system that makes it easier to find content types.

    It's not clear what you think is missing.

    C
  • scobleizerscobleizer I'm the video guy
    Charles, I think they are asking for more granularity in tags. Instead of tagging each video with just a few tags, they want to see more tags. I'd be interesting to enable everyone to add tags to the videos here.
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    How useful is it to have a video with 35 tags?

    C
  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    My original idea was to have the ability for users to tag a particular clip.  Charles says it's not avilable right now, so that's a good enough answer for me.  Big Smile
  • erikerik_ Whooops!
    Whoh, AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING feature.

    Is it also possible to add comments to the clipping next to the tags? So a person is able to add some comments to the clipping about why he clipped that part. So for example you have the tags: Channel9 and Clipster and as comments: this is how you record a clipping or here they display how to add a clipping to your profile, etc.

    Is the record application making a copy of the video or is it pointing to timepoints in the original video and just fast fowards to these parts on clipping view request?


  • Wayne TaylorKryptos Backup People!

    This is very cool!, Would like to see how it was done.

    I recall Robert saying once in a video, that you couldn't put a link to a point in a video....  Is that how this came about?

     

     

  • geeklinggeekling I am an artist
    Charles wrote:
    How useful is it to have a video with 35 tags?

    C


    Because sometimes one video relates to many different topics? Although any video with 35 tags was probably too long and unfocused. Wink

    Don't tell me you never wished you were able to use tags for your audio / video files rather than the built-in metadata?
  • Adam KinneyAdamKinney Agent of Change
    erik_ wrote:

    Is it also possible to add comments to the clipping next to the tags? So a person is able to add some comments to the clipping about why he clipped that part. So for example you have the tags: Channel9 and Clipster and as comments: this is how you record a clipping or here they display how to add a clipping to your profile, etc.


    Yes, Charles brought up that we might want to add in a description field.  We just didn't have to time fit that in, maybe for the next go around.

    erik_ wrote:

    Is the record application making a copy of the video or is it pointing to timepoints in the original video and just fast fowards to these parts on clipping view request?


    The correct answer is the latter.  We save the start and endtime and then we tell the streaming video where to start and how long to play.  Really a testament to how cool the streaming technology is.

    Kryptos wrote:
    I recall Robert saying once in a video, that you couldn't put a link to a point in a video....  Is that how this came about?


    That and we just wanted to make the videos easier to consume overall.  Sometimes you don't have 90 minutes to watch a video, but it'd be great to still see clips of it.

    geekling wrote:
    Don't tell me you never wished you were able to use tags for your audio / video files rather than the built-in metadata?


    Maybe we need something like sub-tags.  More defined tags that fit under existing tags.

    Tag                          Sub Tag
    MS Personalities ->  Bill Gates
    MS Execs            ->  Bill Gates
    Security              ->  LUA       
  • W3bboW3bbo Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
    Question:

    How does the clipping thing work exactly?

    I'm guessing a little bit of nifty ECMAScript is employed to alter the MMS protocol request to fetch the part of the mobie needed from the Media Servers or is it more complicated than that?

    Also, how hard is it to create an alternate UI for the WMP Plugin thesedays, and does it work in non-Trident browsers?

  • MinhMinh WOOH!  WOOH!
    W3bbo wrote:
    Question:

    How does the clipping thing work exactly?

    I'm guessing a little bit of nifty ECMAScript is employed to alter the MMS protocol request to fetch the part of the mobie needed from the Media Servers or is it more complicated than that?

    Also, how hard is it to create an alternate UI for the WMP Plugin thesedays, and does it work in non-Trident browsers?


    It's all in the ASX -- the description file for the actual video. When you "save" a clip, you get a PVRID, which contains the URL to the WMV, a start time, a duration, and name.

    If you view the "Fullscreen" button's href, you'll see that you'd get

       mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/msnse/0510/25408/unitas_give_campaign_2005_MBR.wmv

    but coming from your clip, you'd get:

       http://channel9.msdn.com/PVR/GetAsx.aspx?pvrid=62

    which contains this:

    <asx version="3.0">
       <title>test</title>
       <entry>
          <ref href="mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/msnse/0510/25408/unitas_give_campaign_2005_MBR.wmv" />
          <starttime value="71" />
          <duration value="8" />
       </entry>
    </asx>

    The player itself is an ActiveX control, initialized w/ a link to your saved clip's info. The VCR controls drives the ActiveX control.

    Nifty stuff.
  • Adam KinneyAdamKinney Agent of Change
    Nice job, Deconstruction Man Big Smile
  • aizaiz
    the ui of the slider  is very nice ,but i can't see the red button and i'm already logged in ,i work on XPsp2 machine with ie6
    is there a reason for that to happen?
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    erik_ wrote:
    Whoh, AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING feature.

    Is it also possible to add comments to the clipping next to the tags? So a person is able to add some comments to the clipping about why he clipped that part. So for example you have the tags: Channel9 and Clipster and as comments: this is how you record a clipping or here they display how to add a clipping to your profile, etc.

    Is the record application making a copy of the video or is it pointing to timepoints in the original video and just fast fowards to these parts on clipping view request?




    Hi erik_,

    Yes, in V2 you will be able to add comments to your clips.

    The record mechanism is not recording video and saving a file. It is recording time points (start and end times) and storing those values. To view the clip, we set the inline player's url to our ASX auto-generator page, which builds ASX content that incorporates your clip title, start time and duration (end time - start time), and location of the original streaming file (located on the MS streaming sever cluster). MMS is such a great technology. You tell the media streamer where to start and and how long to last and, bingo, you got a streaming clip. Super fast seek. I'm proud of our streaming technologies group. Great work!

    C
  • Stevan VeselinovicSteve411 Me, all suited up!
    Neat!

    - Steve
  • Adam KinneyAdamKinney Agent of Change
    aiz wrote:
    the ui of the slider  is very nice ,but i can't see the red button and i'm already logged in ,i work on XPsp2 machine with ie6
    is there a reason for that to happen?


    Currently the record option is only available for videos.  So if you're looking at a screencast, podcast or another clip you won't see the record button.
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    geekling wrote:
    Charles wrote: How useful is it to have a video with 35 tags?

    C


    Because sometimes one video relates to many different topics? Although any video with 35 tags was probably too long and unfocused.

    Don't tell me you never wished you were able to use tags for your audio / video files rather than the built-in metadata?


    I can you use tags for any of our media content. Smiley The point is, we have not built a reasonable strategy for enabling user tagging (that is, non-admin tagging privlege).

    C
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    Adam is right: We only support clipping for Videos. This is the case because only our videos are sent to clients by streaming media servers, which means only our videos support our server-side stream-seek-dependent clipping mechanism. If we can't seek unless the media file is locally available (via script), we can't clip. Another way to put it is that ASX-based seeking requires streaming.

    Streaming MMS rules,
    C
  • NetRyderNetRyder Tech Junkie
    Incredibly cool feature! It's a real gem...very handy. 

    Thanks for taking the time to develop this. Smiley
  • So is Clipster the cousin of Clippy?Tongue Out

    I was surprised there haven't been any clippy jokes yet so I had to throw one in...[6]

     

  • Is it possible to add an additional bigger description box where the user can describe what exactly he finds so very compleing about that clip - and not just a short name
  • Very cool!

    But, can you add a description field please?

  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change

    We will add a description field, probably in the next version(or service pack Smiley) of Clipster.

    C

  • erikerik_ Whooops!
    AdamKinney wrote:

    The correct answer is the latter.  We save the start and endtime and then we tell the streaming video where to start and how long to play.  Really a testament to how cool the streaming technology is.


    Charles wrote:

    Hi erik_,

    Yes, in V2 you will be able to add comments to your clips.

    The record mechanism is not recording video and saving a file. It is recording time points (start and end times) and storing those values. To view the clip, we set the inline player's url to our ASX auto-generator page, which builds ASX content that incorporates your clip title, start time and duration (end time - start time), and location of the original streaming file (located on the MS streaming sever cluster). MMS is such a great technology. You tell the media streamer where to start and and how long to last and, bingo, you got a streaming clip. Super fast seek. I'm proud of our streaming technologies group. Great work!

    C


    This is just changed my world, wonderfull technology. An so simple idea, but a powerhouse when it is working.

    Is anything like this possible with other formats like realmedia or is windows media the only format that allows this to be build simple? And with simple I mean just using the technology availible and not building a compete house around realmedia to let the format support the seek in the stream.

    I love the streaming technologies group!
  • Erik PorterHuman​Compiler Now with more apps
    Could you guys put up a tooltip when rolling over clip links that says the name of the person who created it and the length of the clip?
  • LarsenalLarsenal ready to give an answer
    Looks like you've got a browser check in place so that non-IE browsers don't show the list of clips when you navigate to a video. 

    Although I understand the idea of hiding noncompatible options, I think doing so lessens the discoverability of this cool new feature.  Many of us quite frequently use two browsers.  If I happen to check out a video in FF, it'd be nice to see that there are clips--even if I have to fire up IE to view them properly.

    Just my two cents.  [A] Agree or not, I'll keep posting!
  • V01DV01D But if I wanted to, I could stop bullets, right?
    Very sexy.  Now I don't have to keep sending hour long videos links to ppl when I just want to show them a little snip.  Very cool idea!
  • jvervoornjvervoorn Caption

     Minh  said:
     The "Fullscreen" button just returns the ASX file associated w/ a video -- which launches the external player. That's never fullscreen by default. You can instantly go fullscreen by double-clicking on the playing video window, BTW.

    Actually you used to be able to go fullscreen by double-clicking on the video in the web page. Now there is some click override going on to play the video so if you double click it goes full screen and the instanly pauses. To get around this *bug* just hit Ctrl+P and it will start playing again.

  • LoadsgoodLoadsgood What is your answer?
    Can anyone fix up the ShowClips page? It looks really wierd with the "test" clips and the seemingly random sorting.

    Then again I guess we can say this Clipster feature is in beta. A few changes like what I mention above and the ability to have this on non-IE browsers would probably bump it into final release mode.  

    Overall you rock 9Team (especially Chadam for making it Smiley) This gives us dialup users a chance to watch the most interesting parts of the videos without breaching the bandwidth limit (for long), not forgetting to mention the huge amount of user interaction that goes along with this feature as well.


    Really nice stuff Big Smile
    Loadsgood.
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    Thanks for all the great feedback.

    No bugs, Loadsgood? Come now...

    Smiley

    C
  • TDavidTDavid Learn more so you can earn more

    This is a great idea. I see that RSS feeds are created for clips created by each niner and this could allow for some interesting integration offsite, especially if user tagging was allowed.

    Nice work!

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