Clipster is here!
- Posted: Oct 12, 2005 at 6:06 PM
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The Clipster is a personal video recorder for video blogs like Channel 9 that we’ve integrated into our embedded media player.
How do I use it?
It is so easy! We’ve added a red record button to the embedded video player on Channel 9.
- Select the red record button to start recording. Select it again when you are done.
- Specify the title of the clip(s) you’ve recorded.
- Select Save. That is it!
The clips are available from your Channel 9 Profile page. We also provide links to clips below each of our videos to clips we and the community have created. Each clip has its own URL. Link to it from your blog, share your clips with your friends and family.
Disclaimer: At this time we are only supporting Internet Explorer,
BUT we do want to work on getting Clipster to work in other browsers. If you any suggestions towards that goal
please send us an email.
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AWESOME! This is really cool feature... a post-it type of tool for videos
How difficult would it be to add our own video? (if we mute the original one, can we record voice over it? like comments or suggestions, etc?)
We could build our own list of fav demos from Channel9 Videos out of this ... with an RSS feed!!! (Think amazon Lists mania
)...
Ok, I need to go back to watching videos and saving these clips, I am getting too excited!
keep up the hard work guys!
That said, I want this feature in the worst way too. There are a lot of sites around where you can upload videos, by the way.
Two things, second one being in another post..
1) Any chance of re-adding that button to launch the video in WMP? I enjoy minimizing WMP and running it from the task bar while I'm working.
2) Any chance at all at having Channel 9 being more PDA friendly? As in, if I'm surfing the internet on my JasJar and want to swing by channel 9? It's interesting to how it looks..
Feature request: show a list of clips for a particular video in the post for that video. this would allow the community to essentially have bookmarks.
EDIT: I noticed that it's already there if the media has clips. Again, good job.
Any chance of getting a behind-the-scenes look at how this was put together? While I think most of us have a semantical understanding of how this is accomplished, it'd be neat to hear from Adam about the challenges he faced and what tools and methods he used to achieve a solution.
This is one of those "wow" features that will end up being only as cool as the C9 community makes it. If we don't use it much, it will go down as a "cool work, but mostly we like to just watch videos and chat in the coffeehouse."
So let's use it! I'd like to see some sort of best-of-C9 wiki with links to the best moments of the best C9 videos.
We have the feature of highlighting clips for a particular video.
Check out this video and note the Clips: section above Tags:
We list out all clips there, if a [ more link ] is shown after this you'll see Clips made by the community too.
Adam Kinney did some few clips tonight, check them out on his profile http://channel9.msdn.com/niners/adamkinney/
I think we need to also add a show me all the clips view to our videos page if this keeps off.
We'll do a behind the scenes video soon.
I like that all the clips are shown for each video. I didn't see it at first.
Can't wait to see the behind the scenes video!
Another thought: Any chance of getting an option down the road to be able to get a permalink per video? Say I watch a video and think there are just 5 really cool parts that I'd love to blog about. If I could get some sort of link per video that I've created that would be great to slam out a blog entry quickly.
Again, great job!
Great idea w/ Clipster & overall changes to the Profile. I'm really digging them. A couple of thoughts on the new video layout.
* The "Fullscreen" button just returns the ASX file associated w/ a video -- which launches the external player. That's never fullscreen by default. You can instantly go fullscreen by double-clicking on the playing video window, BTW.
* You could also add the "Fullscreen" (let's call it "External Player") button to the FireFox version & you'll have it the way it used to work.
Adam Kinney(especially) and David Shadle deserve the bulk of the credit for this innovation.
Great work.
C
To launch the video outside of the webpage you click the "Full Screen" button, as Minh points out its not a full screen video but the player can take up the full screen. "External Player" is more descriptive, but doesn't flow as well. Something to be considered.
As far FireFox goes, the media player is not enabled and you get a "Watch" button. As the disclaimer reads it'd be great to get the player to work in browsers other than IE, but that will hopefully come at a later date. I actually didn't have any time to see what else is available yet.
Yes, definitely. I plan to write up how it came together (or as Jeff mentioned maybe a video). But today is was tough enough getting the screencast together along with everything else
So I'm sure you noticed that each clip has a permalink, but it sounds like you're taking about a playlist funcitonality. Playlists were something delayed so we could ship, next time around maybe we'll see them.
Interesting idea, kind of like an invitation.
Yes, profile has been fixed!
Yes, although some videos--especially the ones that are more personality focused--cover a wide variety of topics.
Exampes: this one with Iain McDonald, the Jim Allchin one, and the Bill Hill ones (here for example).
As far as I understand it, part of what's cool here is that our media searches will get better as content is more specifically tagged.
Yes. You understand correctly. Tagging is a classification system that makes it easier to find content types.
It's not clear what you think is missing.
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Is it also possible to add comments to the clipping next to the tags? So a person is able to add some comments to the clipping about why he clipped that part. So for example you have the tags: Channel9 and Clipster and as comments: this is how you record a clipping or here they display how to add a clipping to your profile, etc.
Is the record application making a copy of the video or is it pointing to timepoints in the original video and just fast fowards to these parts on clipping view request?
This is very cool!, Would like to see how it was done.
I recall Robert saying once in a video, that you couldn't put a link to a point in a video.... Is that how this came about?
Because sometimes one video relates to many different topics? Although any video with 35 tags was probably too long and unfocused.
Don't tell me you never wished you were able to use tags for your audio / video files rather than the built-in metadata?
Yes, Charles brought up that we might want to add in a description field. We just didn't have to time fit that in, maybe for the next go around.
The correct answer is the latter. We save the start and endtime and then we tell the streaming video where to start and how long to play. Really a testament to how cool the streaming technology is.
That and we just wanted to make the videos easier to consume overall. Sometimes you don't have 90 minutes to watch a video, but it'd be great to still see clips of it.
Maybe we need something like sub-tags. More defined tags that fit under existing tags.
Tag Sub Tag
MS Personalities -> Bill Gates
MS Execs -> Bill Gates
Security -> LUA
How does the clipping thing work exactly?
I'm guessing a little bit of nifty ECMAScript is employed to alter the MMS protocol request to fetch the part of the mobie needed from the Media Servers or is it more complicated than that?
Also, how hard is it to create an alternate UI for the WMP Plugin thesedays, and does it work in non-Trident browsers?
It's all in the ASX -- the description file for the actual video. When you "save" a clip, you get a PVRID, which contains the URL to the WMV, a start time, a duration, and name.
If you view the "Fullscreen" button's href, you'll see that you'd get
mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/msnse/0510/25408/unitas_give_campaign_2005_MBR.wmv
but coming from your clip, you'd get:
http://channel9.msdn.com/PVR/GetAsx.aspx?pvrid=62
which contains this:
<asx version="3.0">
<title>test</title>
<entry>
<ref href="mms://wm.microsoft.com/ms/msnse/0510/25408/unitas_give_campaign_2005_MBR.wmv" />
<starttime value="71" />
<duration value="8" />
</entry>
</asx>
The player itself is an ActiveX control, initialized w/ a link to your saved clip's info. The VCR controls drives the ActiveX control.
Nifty stuff.
is there a reason for that to happen?
Hi erik_,
Yes, in V2 you will be able to add comments to your clips.
The record mechanism is not recording video and saving a file. It is recording time points (start and end times) and storing those values. To view the clip, we set the inline player's url to our ASX auto-generator page, which builds ASX content that incorporates your clip title, start time and duration (end time - start time), and location of the original streaming file (located on the MS streaming sever cluster). MMS is such a great technology. You tell the media streamer where to start and and how long to last and, bingo, you got a streaming clip. Super fast seek. I'm proud of our streaming technologies group. Great work!
C
- Steve
Currently the record option is only available for videos. So if you're looking at a screencast, podcast or another clip you won't see the record button.
I can you use tags for any of our media content.
C
Streaming MMS rules,
C
Thanks for taking the time to develop this.
So is Clipster the cousin of Clippy?
I was surprised there haven't been any clippy jokes yet so I had to throw one in...[6]
Very cool!
But, can you add a description field please?
We will add a description field, probably in the next version(or service pack
) of Clipster.
C
This is just changed my world, wonderfull technology. An so simple idea, but a powerhouse when it is working.
Is anything like this possible with other formats like realmedia or is windows media the only format that allows this to be build simple? And with simple I mean just using the technology availible and not building a compete house around realmedia to let the format support the seek in the stream.
I love the streaming technologies group!
Although I understand the idea of hiding noncompatible options, I think doing so lessens the discoverability of this cool new feature. Many of us quite frequently use two browsers. If I happen to check out a video in FF, it'd be nice to see that there are clips--even if I have to fire up IE to view them properly.
Just my two cents. [A] Agree or not, I'll keep posting!
Minh said:
The "Fullscreen" button just returns the ASX file associated w/ a video -- which launches the external player. That's never fullscreen by default. You can instantly go fullscreen by double-clicking on the playing video window, BTW.
Actually you used to be able to go fullscreen by double-clicking on the video in the web page. Now there is some click override going on to play the video so if you double click it goes full screen and the instanly pauses. To get around this *bug* just hit Ctrl+P and it will start playing again.
Then again I guess we can say this Clipster feature is in beta. A few changes like what I mention above and the ability to have this on non-IE browsers would probably bump it into final release mode.
Overall you rock 9Team (especially Chadam for making it
Really nice stuff
Loadsgood.
No bugs, Loadsgood? Come now...
C
This is a great idea. I see that RSS feeds are created for clips created by each niner and this could allow for some interesting integration offsite, especially if user tagging was allowed.
Nice work!
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