Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) http://ak.channel9.msdn.com/ch9/0ad8/4ac090a8-f8c7-46a3-a7ed-c26c1ba80ad8/LangNEXT2012AndreiAndyErikWalterPureVsNative_220.jpg Channel 9 - Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) Continuing with the series of conversations filmed in the "social room" at Lang.NEXT 2012, we present Andrei Alexandrescu, Walter Bright, Erik Meijer, and Andrew Adams-Moran discussing/debating various programming topics including pure versus native languages, Haskell, D, and more. Thanks Andrei, Andrew, Erik, and Walter for an excellent conversation! As always, this is presented to you exactly as it happened. Tune in. Enjoy. en Wed, 22 May 2013 17:02:44 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 17:02:44 GMT Rev9 Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) Of course EMACS IS THE BEST. lol.

posted by AdityaG

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698379270358730 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:32:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698379270358730 AdityaG Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) posted by Ryan

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698665423579552 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 22:29:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698665423579552 Ryan Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) Brilliant, Erik wasn't kidding about the best content happening backstage in the common areas instead of on stage. 

I THINK Andrei said he was about to destroy the functional side, since he had the perspective of implementation detail instead of how to do the mental concept map for a functional implementation for the doubly-linked list; the very essence of the difference between the two paradigms.

posted by HeavensRevenge

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698714153896532 Thu, 12 Apr 2012 23:50:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698714153896532 HeavensRevenge Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) Every time I hear Andrei Alexandrescu talk it makes me want to start programming in D.  What a great technical salesman.  Smiley  I think this is a great comparison between two amazing languages on opposite sides of the spectrum.  Too bad Lang.Next its only once a year, it's like Christmas for me!!

posted by AceHack

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698893664857018 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:49:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698893664857018 AceHack Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more)
For now Visual Studio 11, with the new C++, C# and F#, is really king for real developers!. It's all about the tools and programers productivity!

posted by Mouhammad Fakhoury

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698971781669773 Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:59:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634698971781669773 Mouhammad Fakhoury Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) Awesome!  Big Smile  Man I could have kept listening for hours … why are your videos so short Charles? Wink  Just kidding man. 

Erik, you said something about parser combinators being useless for tools due to them having to work in on incomplete input, got me thinking about the probabilistic programming/machine learning stuff as in that other Lang.NEXT session, and that perhaps parser combinators could operate concurrently on one or more predicted models, which must always be valid input, and if there are no valid predicted models, then it's an error.  Just a thought.

posted by Richard.Hein

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634699731388856515 Sat, 14 Apr 2012 04:05:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634699731388856515 Richard.Hein Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) that was kind of an insult to lump an interview with the designers of D together with some guy who works with Haskell. I think D has a big chance at being the compiled language that finally kills VM languages like Java and C#. But the questions asked about D were very haphazard and unfocused. I really appreciate channel 9 interviews, but this one was kind of a waste

posted by arquebus

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634702481304149337 Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:28:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634702481304149337 arquebus Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) > that was kind of an insult to lump an interview with the designers of D together with some guy who works with Haskell

"Erik Meijer is an accomplished programming-language designer who has worked on a wide range of languages, including Haskell, Mondrian, X#, Cω, C#, and Visual Basic. He runs the Cloud Programmability Team at Microsoft, where his primary focus has been to remove the impedance mismatch between databases and programming languages. One of the fruits of these efforts is LINQ, which not only adds a native querying syntax to .NET languages, such as C# and Visual Basic, but also allows developers to query data sources other than tables, such as objects or XML."

So much for "some guy who works with Haskell"

posted by SomeDude

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634703710602852362 Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:37:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634703710602852362 SomeDude Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more)
LOL. People have been trying to tell Walter for years how important it is to lower the barrier to contributing code. Glad to see it's finally a solved problem.

posted by bill

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634704410210458470 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:03:41 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634704410210458470 bill Re: Alexandrescu, Bright, Meijer, Moran: Pure versus Native (and much more) I need to have intellisense"
-Erik
hahahahahahaha

posted by Nacho

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634709896343321012 Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:27:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Alexandrescu-Bright-Meijer-Moran-Pure-versus-Native-and-much-more#c634709896343321012 Nacho