Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/6ef4/76630f9f-607e-4d9e-9461-097778f06ef4/JPLVisit_100.jpg Channel 9 - Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future While in LA for PDC2008, we were lucky enough to get the chance to head down to Pasadena for a tour and interview at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Nic Fillingham and I grabbed a cab and met up with the great Marc Mercuri (of RoboChamps fame), DPE's VP Walid Abu-Hadba and others to get a look at the JPL Mars Rover facility and meet some of the folks behind the Mars Exploration Rover Mission. Our guide was the venerable Dave Lavery who is the Program Executive for Solar System Exploration at NASA.This is a fascinating glimpse into the world of solar system exploration from the perspective of robotics and software design (Dave was a major contributor to the robotics design and development efforts behind (and in) the Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity).Tune in and learn about some of the challenges of developing autonomous machines that you will never get to touch again (think about the reduncancy requirements for a robot rover that is deployed 100 million miles away from Earth...). It's really exciting that the Mars rovers Spirit and Opportunity will be joined on the red planet by a new mobile robot equipped with an advanced laboratory capable of unparalleled experimentation and analysis. The folks at JPL think 100 million miles outside of the box! en Sat, 18 May 2013 17:40:59 GMT Sat, 18 May 2013 17:40:59 GMT Rev9 Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future Cool vid.  I wonder, will the new rover have a way to remove a wheel (i.e. exploding bolts) if it jams up?  Will they be using Robotics Studio at all?   At the end, what money did he owe you Charles?

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625436960000000 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:34:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625436960000000 staceyw Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future NASA should create a retail mars rover with robotic studio as the software platform and sell it.  Good way to raise money for the project and good education for kids and adults.  Could integrate the hw with an Xbox game with missions and 3d landscapes extruded from the 2d pictures.  Now if I can just figure out how to incorporate guitar hero into a mission...

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625443320000000 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:45:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625443320000000 staceyw Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future That was my attempt at acting like a Mob Collector (note the shades). Just having some fun with Dave.
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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625455440000000 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:05:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625455440000000 Charles Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future Sven is going to love this one Smiley Me too. Thanks Charles.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625471790000000 Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:32:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633625471790000000 littleguru Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future
A technical note about the video: I found having the voices separated (Charles in the left channel and Dave Lavery in the right channel) to be very distracting. If you look at professional video, even hollywood movies, they almost never put voices in the side channels (and if they do, it's for a short time only and usually a character that's off screen). Voice needs to be in the center pretty much always.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626189010000000 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:28:21 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626189010000000 Sven Groot Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future posted by littleguru

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626352700000000 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:01:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626352700000000 Charles Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future The robot would wait forever to catch up again.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626421000000000 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:55:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626421000000000 littleguru Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future C

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626421750000000 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:56:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626421750000000 Charles Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future http://www.ipnsig.org/aboutstudy.htm
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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626428380000000 Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:07:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633626428380000000 Charles Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future
I was thinking about the stuff that we discussed here yesterday in the evening. There must be quite a storage on the rovers. Imagine they do their work and are on the side of Mars that's not focusing to earth. They need to store the data until they get contact again. I know that there's a relay station in orbit - it might be that they buffer the data there but I'm not sure.

These projects are faced very interesting problems!

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633627144720000000 Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:01:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Channel-9-on-Mars-Inside-the-Mars-Exploration-Mission-Past-Present-and-Future#c633627144720000000 littleguru Re: Channel 9 on Mars: Inside the Mars Exploration Mission - Past, Present and Future It not the packet lost, it's the latency!  You're looking at 6.5 minutes just to get an ACK back before you send any data!

Their datarate is 256Kbits/s max when relayed via the Odyssey orbiter, their direct link is something like 2Kbits/s

BTW this is kind of intreasting http://hobbiton.thisside.net/rovermanual/

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