Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/249343_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Orcas Beta 1 has shipped!!! Who better to tell us all about VS Orcas and related technologies than our good friend Soma, VP of the developer division (that's the group that makes all of our development tools and programming languages). Orcas Beta 1 is a major milestone for the next version of VS and related technologies.Install Orcas (on Vista, baby!) and experience firsthand the plethora of innovations it contains. Did you know you can write VS 2005 applications in Orcas? Did you you know that LINQ is deeply integrated into the Orcas IDE? Did you know that there is now JScript intellisense? Have you played with Cider (design surface for WPF)? Did you know... As always, your feedback is critical. Soma and team anxiously await learning about your experiences with Orcas. en Thu, 23 May 2013 04:57:19 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 04:57:19 GMT Rev9 Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Thanks for the video. I'm gonna watch it now.
When are the public ISO images going to be released? Any date?

posted by littleguru

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126078410000000 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:30:41 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126078410000000 littleguru Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Great video. Thanks Soma and Charles Smiley

posted by RoyalSchrubber

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126133120000000 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:01:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126133120000000 ZippyV Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond

posted by cwbrandsma

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126144100000000 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:20:10 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126144100000000 cwbrandsma Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
cwbrandsma wrote:
Soma mentioned a blog to check for some details on team systems.  does someone have a url?


That would be Brian Harry's blog. Also, check out Brian Keller's blog.

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126151220000000 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:32:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126151220000000 Charles Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
Is this real? Tell me its real!


I am feeling light headed  already!


THIS IS EXCITING NEWS. Cant wait to download it and install it and use LINQ.


ITs always good news when you see SOMA!!!


Thanks Charles! As always you rock!.Cool


Now where is that , Post button,,,, ah there.Big Smile


posted by SecretSoftware

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126169370000000 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:02:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126169370000000 SecretSoftware Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
Btw, I cannot access MSDN Subscriber Downloads.

Is the site down?


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posted by sheeeng

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126253130000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:21:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126253130000000 sheeeng Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond

posted by pdhooper

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126256460000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:27:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126256460000000 pdhooper Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126418600000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 04:57:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126418600000000 tomkirbygreen Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by umic

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126477550000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:35:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126477550000000 umic Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Right I'm back and displaying the same impatience of the ante-posters.

You have put a kid in a sweet shop and said look, but don't touch!

posted by vesuvius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126509770000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:29:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126509770000000 vesuvius Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
Stay tuned. It'll be worth the wait.

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126518860000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:44:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126518860000000 Charles Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
vesuvius wrote:
Apoplectic at the moment. Think I better go lie down somwhere.
Right I'm back and displaying the same impatience of the ante-posters.

You have put a kid in a sweet shop and said look, but don't touch!


Update: Soma's blog intimates that Orcas will be available "in the next day or so"

posted by vesuvius

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posted by robcaron

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126849740000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:56:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126849740000000 robcaron Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
I hope they don't spread themselves so thin on enhancing the big IT shop offerings that they forget the small shops.  As a contractor I have worked in both.  VS2005 just seemed like the IDE has more little quirky issues then VS2003.  Was that because they took dev's off to do team stuff?  Was it because it added to many other tasked that they could focus on all of them?  I hope the new testing and project integration stuff doesn't leave the core IDE to more quirkyness.  For example with SP1 for VS2005 did any one else have the icons in the tool tab freak.  It happened on both my home and work computers right after I installed SP1.  There are plenty more little things, I hope microsoft doesn't forget quality first before functionality.

posted by Boomport

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126871620000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:32:42 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126871620000000 Boomport Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond http://developershelf.blogspot.com/2007/04/orcas-beta-1-and-net-35-shipped.html

posted by rupakg

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126929100000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:08:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633126929100000000 rupakg Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
robcaron wrote:
The ISOs are coming very soon for Microsoft Downloads, and they are already showing up on MSDN Subscriber Downloads (see: Visual Studio Code Name "Orcas" Beta 1 for MSDN Subscribers).


Thanks! I'm really keen to test it out Smiley

posted by littleguru

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127001830000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:09:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127001830000000 littleguru Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127056300000000 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:40:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127056300000000 staceyw Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond What is the target release month for Visual Studio 2008?

Cool

posted by raymond

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127127170000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:38:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127127170000000 raymond Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond ( the book itself was out on 28th march and was delayed to ship until 6th april  Sad )

posted by abkrino

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127198160000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:36:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127198160000000 abkrino Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
first prediction for 2007 came true Big Smile I see the future and again my 2008 too that orcas will ship in 2008 Big Smile


Edit:

These downloads are currently unavailable on Microsoft Downloads, but will be available soon. MSDN Subscribers can download these files from MSDN Subscriber Downloads. Sad Sad Sad what's the purpose of beta testing in the first place?! Sad

posted by abkrino

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127199050000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:38:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127199050000000 abkrino Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by robcaron

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127217520000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 03:09:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127217520000000 robcaron Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Great Video! Are there any enhancements to Smart Clients / Click Once? One of the things I wish gets added is forms based authentication for click once apps i.e. if I launch a click once app from an already authenticated ASP.NET page, it should work fine, else should give an appropriate error.

Thanks,
Vaibhav

posted by vaibhavkamath

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127265410000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:29:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127265410000000 vaibhavkamath Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
It hangs on creating new WPF application.
"Initializing Toolbox...", consuming HUGE amount of memory, taking 30-45% of CPU. I've killed "devenv.exe" when it consumed 500 MB of RAM with no any respose.


Good attempt, MS! Even Beta1 must me workabe enough.
You have PERFECT testers! Cool

Software: Orcas Beta1 from MSDN, Vista.

posted by BlackTiger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127338650000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:31:05 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127338650000000 BlackTiger Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
BlackTiger wrote:
Find a huge bug in 30 seconds...

It hangs on creating new WPF application.
"Initializing Toolbox...", consuming HUGE amount of memory, taking 30-45% of CPU. I've killed "devenv.exe" when it consumed 500 MB of RAM with no any respose.


Good attempt, MS! Even Beta1 must me workabe enough.
You have PERFECT testers!

Software: Orcas Beta1 from MSDN, Vista.


I am not able to create WPF projects (application and web based) using Visual C# express 9.0. It simply says that the project type is not supported :O

posted by anand.t

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127347410000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 06:45:41 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127347410000000 anand.t Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
anand.t wrote:

I am not able to create WPF projects (application and web based) using Visual C# express 9.0. It simply says that the project type is not supported



My heart sank yesterday when I tried this with the Visual C# Codename "Orcas" Express Edition CTP, and I determined that It would just a matter of time before another user encountered the error. the steps are,

FILE->NEW PROJECT->WPF APPLICATION->OK..............

The error message is: The project file 'c:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temp\WPFApplication1.csproj' cannot be opened.

The project type is not supported by this installation...OK? - HELP?

Similar error encountered when attaempting creation of a WPFBrowser App, steps are,

FILE->NEW PROJECT->WPF BROWSER APPLICATION->OK..............

The error message is: The project file 'c:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temp\JSJ1Q5NK.ZCZ\temp\WPFBrowserApplication1.csproj' cannot be opened.

The project type is not supported by this installation...OK? - HELP?

I know this is just the Express CTP but if the problem is prevalent and pervades the full Orcas beta 1, please save me the time and effort and advise this thread!

VWD Express "Orcas" appears fine though with the new WCFService and Expression Web editing tools. Best of all changing between design-split-code views is brisk!

posted by vesuvius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127365200000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:15:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127365200000000 vesuvius Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
BlackTiger wrote:
Find a huge bug in 30 seconds...

It hangs on creating new WPF application.
"Initializing Toolbox...", consuming HUGE amount of memory, taking 30-45% of CPU. I've killed "devenv.exe" when it consumed 500 MB of RAM with no any respose.


Good attempt, MS! Even Beta1 must me workabe enough.
You have PERFECT testers!

Software: Orcas Beta1 from MSDN, Vista.


You understand what beta means? right?

posted by littleguru

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127584670000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:21:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127584670000000 littleguru Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
vesuvius wrote:

anand.t wrote:
I am not able to create WPF projects (application and web based) using Visual C# express 9.0. It simply says that the project type is not supported



My heart sank yesterday when I tried this with the Visual C# Codename "Orcas" Express Edition CTP, and I determined that It would just a matter of time before another user encountered the error. the steps are,

FILE->NEW PROJECT->WPF APPLICATION->OK..............

The error message is: The project file 'c:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temp\WPFApplication1.csproj' cannot be opened.

The project type is not supported by this installation...OK? - HELP?

Similar error encountered when attaempting creation of a WPFBrowser App, steps are,

FILE->NEW PROJECT->WPF BROWSER APPLICATION->OK..............

The error message is: The project file 'c:\Documents and Settings\My Name\Local Settings\Temp\JSJ1Q5NK.ZCZ\temp\WPFBrowserApplication1.csproj' cannot be opened.

The project type is not supported by this installation...OK? - HELP?

I know this is just the Express CTP but if the problem is prevalent and pervades the full Orcas beta 1, please save me the time and effort and advise this thread!

VWD Express "Orcas" appears fine though with the new WCFService and Expression Web editing tools. Best of all changing between design-split-code views is brisk!


I resolved to install this on my day-to-day XP machine and both problem above are now unprevalent. The only installation difference is that I've got Visual Studio, C# express and VWD express with SQL advanced SQL server express and .NET frameworks 2 and 3. The first install on my other pc had none of this software I've just mentioned.

Anyhow don't fancy wasting my weekend faffing about with a long  uninstallation and yet another huge download, but there's an installation gremlin that needs to be found out!

posted by vesuvius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127693770000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:22:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127693770000000 vesuvius Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
littleguru wrote:

BlackTiger wrote:Find a huge bug in 30 seconds...

It hangs on creating new WPF application.
"Initializing Toolbox...", consuming HUGE amount of memory, taking 30-45% of CPU. I've killed "devenv.exe" when it consumed 500 MB of RAM with no any respose.


Good attempt, MS! Even Beta1 must me workabe enough.
You have PERFECT testers!

Software: Orcas Beta1 from MSDN, Vista.


You understand what beta means? right?


Beta1 means - "it almost finished and 80% of features works well without significant issues". Cool

posted by BlackTiger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127718320000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:03:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127718320000000 BlackTiger Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
BlackTiger wrote:
Beta1 means - "it almost finished and 80% of features works well without significant issues".


Means it is not ready yet. You don't even get a "go life" license, which means you can't use it for deployment. Beta has meant once something, before all this web 2.0 beta crap. - sorry to say that - but everything is beta in web 2.0

posted by littleguru

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127740010000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:40:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127740010000000 littleguru Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond

1) Open a cmd window at C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\IDE

2) Type "regsvr32.exe ProjectAggregator.dll".


the only remaining issue that i have found is the lack of a workflow designer, or assemblies and i have not received any kind of answer if this will be available or not.

posted by kuprishuz

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127746150000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:50:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127746150000000 kuprishuz Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by JChung2006

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127845500000000 Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:35:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633127845500000000 JChung2006 Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
littleguru wrote:

BlackTiger wrote: Find a huge bug in 30 seconds...

It hangs on creating new WPF application.
"Initializing Toolbox...", consuming HUGE amount of memory, taking 30-45% of CPU. I've killed "devenv.exe" when it consumed 500 MB of RAM with no any respose.


Good attempt, MS! Even Beta1 must me workabe enough.
You have PERFECT testers!

Software: Orcas Beta1 from MSDN, Vista.


You understand what beta means? right?


the march CTP i downloaded was better than this Big Smile Probably MSFT released the wrong version in march (Beta instead of CTP) so now they released the CTP Cool

Anyway I am gonna uninstall this and going to go back to the march CTP. Hope I have the download somewhere.

EDIT:  Filed a bug report

posted by anand.t

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128030150000000 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:43:35 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128030150000000 anand.t Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond If you’re having problems creating WPF or WPF browser applications with Visual C# Express and Visual Basic Express, you may be running into an issue that we know about (http://blogs.msdn.com/johnmont/archive/2007/04/19/visual-studio-express-quot-orcas-quot-available.aspx). We expect to have a patch for this issue, specific to creating WPF or WPF browser application from VC# Express or VB Express, available shortly. If you’re having other issues, please do visit  http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=169&SiteID=1.

posted by Paramesh.V

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kuprishuz wrote:
I had encountered this same problem and found help on the MSDN forums, a patch should be released soon i have been told, However the following works.

1) Open a cmd window at C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\IDE

2) Type "regsvr32.exe ProjectAggregator.dll".


the only remaining issue that i have found is the lack of a workflow designer, or assemblies and i have not received any kind of answer if this will be available or not.



Seems doesn't works for me (Orcas from MSDN, not "express"). Still "Initializing Toolbox..."

posted by BlackTiger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128189300000000 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 06:08:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128189300000000 BlackTiger Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond posted by toontje

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128378740000000 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:24:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128378740000000 toontje Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond
toontje wrote:
Interesting video. I've seen a demo of Visual Studio 'Orcas' by Scott Guthrie, and I was impressed by the better designer, and the new LINQ-functionality. I hope their will be an ongoing engagement to improve the designer in future versions, because designing a nice web interface is still somewhat a hassle in Visual Studio, and not every firm has the luxury of having a designer team at their service.


In that demo (I'm sure theres only the one Linq/Orcas vid)I'm sure he shows the new Expression Web features being added to Orcas. You have a new CSS designer that was in Expression Web that adds a lot of tools to ease the design process. What would be great was if there was a utility that updated all your <div> tags with layers which is what Expression Web is all about. Re-editing an existing web template is a bit of a pain, unless theres a setting i've missed.

posted by vesuvius

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128434720000000 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 12:57:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633128434720000000 vesuvius Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond I worked already a bit with Expression Web, and it's an intuitive css designer indeed. Something I do miss a lot in Visual Studio 2005, is Intellisense for your style definitions, so that if you add a style-class to an html element, you don't have to look up every time your style classes in the css-stylesheet. This is a feature that is already for a long time available in other html-designers (ie DreamWeaver), but luckily it's now alsow available in Expression Web.

Concerning the Orcas demo, I saw Guthrie demonstrate Orcas live in Belgium (Mechelen).

posted by toontje

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JChung2006 wrote:
Re: Did you know you can write VS2003/2005 applications in Orcas?, You can't write .NET 1.1 (aka VS2003) applications in Orcas.  It supports .NET 2.0, 3.0, and 3.5.


Sorry about the mix up...

posted by Charles

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Thank you,
Carol

posted by Carol Grojean

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I would very much appreciate it.

posted by nodtek

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633130884110000000 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:00:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633130884110000000 nodtek Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Soma's enthusiasm made the interview quite enjoyable.  It is good to have a separate beta for the express editions.  Although there are some bugs, my experience so far has been pretty good.  It is good to have the WPF visual designer and it looks like WF designer is also included.  However, the situation with the Entity Framework is unclear.  The samples can be compiled with the express edition and they seem to work.  But the documentation and the command line tool needed to generate the framework files (edmGen.exe) are not included.

Is the plan to restrict the EDM support to the professional versions of Visual Studio?  I can see the argument for doing that and I expect I would be quite satisified playing with SqlMetal.exe and linq to SQL.  On the other hand, I suspect that it is to Microsoft's advantage to try to make the entity framework the standard API for data driven applications as quickly as possible.  In any case, there needs to be clarity about what is in what edition and what is not.

posted by dnjake

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633131283540000000 Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:05:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633131283540000000 dnjake Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Are we going to be able to work with VS2003 projects without converting them at a later date or was the line about "Did you know you can write VS2003/2005 applications in Orcas?" just a mistake? 

VS2005 and Orcas are much better tools, but my company has some large projects that were started before 2.0 shipped and moving them to 2.0 isn't feasable.  I was really excited when I saw that Orcas was supposed to be able to compile to 1.1 apps, but my  bubble was burst after installing the beta.  (Which only finally showed up on my subscriber downloads last night)

Please let us know if compiling to 1.1 will be an option.  I am sure I am not alone on this.

posted by korendir

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korendir wrote:


Are we going to be able to work with VS2003 projects without converting them at a later date or was the line about "Did you know you can write VS2003/2005 applications in Orcas?" just a mistake? 

VS2005 and Orcas are much better tools, but my company has some large projects that were started before 2.0 shipped and moving them to 2.0 isn't feasable.  I was really excited when I saw that Orcas was supposed to be able to compile to 1.1 apps, but my  bubble was burst after installing the beta.  (Which only finally showed up on my subscriber downloads last night)

Please let us know if compiling to 1.1 will be an option.  I am sure I am not alone on this.



That was my mistake. My apologies.
C

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633131950060000000 Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:36:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633131950060000000 Charles Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond http://blogs.msdn.com/johnmont/archive/2007/04/26/wpf-patches-for-vb-and-vc-express-ready.aspx for the links to the patches.

Hope this helps.

John

posted by johnmont

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No any issues on next starts.

PS: Stange things happens. On my second PC (less powerfull than 1st one) VS started MUCH MORE faster...

posted by BlackTiger

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Betaland.net

posted by betaland.net

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633186203140000000 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:38:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Conversation-with-Soma-Orcas-Beta-1-and-Beyond#c633186203140000000 betaland.net Re: Conversation with Soma: Orcas Beta 1 and Beyond Hi Soma -
I glad to know someone who is informed.  Can you direct me to where I can help on my problem below. 

A visual studio Just-In-Time Debugger message ( An unhandled win32 exception failed.  No installed debugger has Just in time enabled) pops up whenever I attempt to launch any program on my computer.  I am running windows 2k server.   Can I make a change to registry or is their a quick fix out to address this problem?

Thanks[C]

posted by pamela

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