Comment Feed for Channel 9 - IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/505871_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D The IE team is busy working on the next version of the world's most popular browser. IE 8 is the most widely used browser on Windows. IE 9 is currently in the oven and the IE team is ready to talk about what they're working on. Here, IE GM Dean Hachamovitch leads us through the halls of IE (literarally) and takes us to meet graphics developer Christian Fortini and test lead Anjali Parikh. They're taking IE to a new level with all graphic rendering taking place on the GPU via the DirectX technology D2D. So, IE 9 will take advantage of the power of the GPU for all page rendering and, further, enable web developers to exploit this power in ways they already understand (CSS, DHTML, JavaScript). The increase in performance and smooth rendering is stunning as you will see in the demos that are part of this conversation. This is incredible news for web developers and web surfers. IE 9, surfing the GPU! Oh yeah.Be sure to check out interviews on IE 9's new JS engine and the importance of testing to achieving interoperable standards.Enjoy. en Wed, 22 May 2013 10:39:01 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 10:39:01 GMT Rev9 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D IE9 w/ D2D & DirectWrite. Nice - I was waiting for this!

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941661910000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:36:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941661910000000 exoteric Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I have kept requesting this since IE7. It makes sense, the web is pquite graphical and computationally intensive now.

 

Now the problem is waiting.

posted by intelman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941705260000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:48:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941705260000000 intelman Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I don't know if this was covered in the (I wasn't paying enough attention when I watched it Smiley, but would the move to rendering IE9 via DX allow a future version of the WPF WebBrowser control to function without the airspace issues of the current GDI based control?

posted by DCMonkey

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941724620000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:21:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941724620000000 DCMonkey Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I didn't watch the video yet, so apologies if this was covered, but how do you handle printing if the browser is rendered on the GPU?  Do you keep the GDI pipeline around for the purpose of printing support?

posted by CreamFilling512

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941743540000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:52:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941743540000000 CreamFilling512 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I forgot to mention, hopefully zoomed pages beyond 100% are smooth.

posted by intelman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941749730000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:02:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941749730000000 intelman Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D We do talk about this. The net net: printing will work... Smiley
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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941754380000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:10:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941754380000000 Charles Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Now this I like...

posted by Simo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941844300000000 Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:40:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941844300000000 Simo Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Charles, you did a great job on this video.  I also really like the way it was filmed; it felt real ... as if you were in the room. Very cool.

posted by ktr

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941964670000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:01:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633941964670000000 ktr Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Yeah they didn't really give you an answer though.  Either they will keep a legacy GDI pipeline, well not really legacy because it'll need to be kept up-to-date, for printing.  Or they will target the new XPS print path, probably the latter.  Either way they're going to have to basically have two render paths for everything.  It's going to be a hard problem.  Abstracting the whole presentation system and supporting arbitrary render methods seems indicated.  If they were using WPF they'd get printing and GPU acceleration for free, but I'm kinda glad they're not cause it's probably too heavyweight.

posted by CreamFilling512

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942011630000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 04:19:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942011630000000 CreamFilling512 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Unfortunatelly I can't play this video on my mac's FF. Schame on Silverlight no to be capable to do that Sad

posted by carstep

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942329680000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:09:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942329680000000 carstep Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Essentially, GDI, GDI+ and DirectX provide a layered architecture for rendering of 2D and 3D imagery, text, etc. When you print a page in a GDI-based app today, your app obtains a printer Device Context (DC) and draws on it. This DC can then be submitted to the printer for rendering which passes the DC to the printer driver in order for the DC to be converted into printer-specific commands (e.g. PostScript, etc).

 

Direct2D is no different. You ask DirectX to create a rendering surface compatible with your printer and you draw on it. The surface can then be passed to the printer driver for translation into the printer-specific language.

 

Review some of the WinHEC 2008 presentations on DirectX and XPS:

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/winhec/2008/pres.mspx

posted by BitCrazed

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942525110000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942525110000000 BitCrazed Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D @DCMonkey:

 

No, switching to Direct2D will not fix airspace issues because at the end of the day there will still be an HWND you are inserting into your WPF tree representing to container in which WebControl will render.

posted by Lokitoth

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942526320000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:37:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942526320000000 Lokitoth Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Oh, the Microsoft green coffee cup! I've enjoyed it so much when I was a business visitor last May...

posted by Lorenzo79

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942566800000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:44:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942566800000000 Lorenzo79 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I don't see anything about such a thing.  Direct2D is nothing like GDI, it's a 2D helper library built on top of Direct3D.  The end result of drawing is always a bunch of commands sent over DMA to the GPU, there is no support for printer devices like GDI.   The rendering surfaces live in the GPU and are only formats supported by the GPU.  There's no printer rendering surface.

 

Edit: Reading MSDN documentation, it looks like Direct2D has pretty extensive interop with GDI.  I think it can actually use GDI as a render target, didn't know that.  In this case they could use GDI for printing by just changing the render target.

posted by CreamFilling512

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942613500000000 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:02:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942613500000000 CreamFilling512 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Use The Force.. and make some cool alternative to the "Opera" SpeedDial and "Safari" Topsites!!

Then IE9 will rule all!!

posted by VengenceBot

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942995550000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:39:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633942995550000000 VengenceBot Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Awesome Charles!!  I really like this interview style.  It seems like you were just having a discussion in the hallway, it felt more impromptu.

 

Thanks IE team for improving the browser.  Today it feels that when you go into your browser, you seem to loose all the power of your machine, and yes, people have addressed this by using flash and silverlight, but it's great to see this type of support available in markup and CSS, and hopefully JavaScript.  It will be awesome to be able to translate this to your site without the need to use silverlight or flash if what you want doesn't really require these technologies.

 

Cheers!

posted by ChrisStepaniuk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943062790000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:31:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943062790000000 ChrisStepaniuk Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Since Win7 started I've been wondering about the possibility of the entire OS being rendered in something like D2D.

 

There are so many parts of the OS that don't render well in 2D or that render too slowly/poorly. At this point it seems like Win8 will be required for that kind of leap, if not the mother of all service packs.

posted by LZIM

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943233320000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:15:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943233320000000 LZIM Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Charles & IE team, great job!  I'd like to add that powerful GPU's aren't something we'll have in the future.  They are already here!  Both NVIDIA & ATI/AMD have had GPU's with hundreds of cores for a while now.

posted by Moshpit

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943240320000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:27:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943240320000000 Moshpit Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D You can download the video if you choose not to install Silverlight.  Under the post's tags you'll see "Media Downloads"

posted by Clint

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943361870000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:49:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943361870000000 Clint Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D If you have an intel mac, you can do this, if you don't, view the MP4 file

posted by Clint

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943515370000000 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:05:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633943515370000000 Clint Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Wauw, Charles 2.0

 

When did you upgrade?

posted by ZippyV

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945229040000000 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:41:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945229040000000 ZippyV Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D What does that mean?

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945263140000000 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:38:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945263140000000 Charles Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D A non-obvious way to refer to the great new interview style where you are not both interviewer and cameraman at the same time!?

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945321950000000 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:16:35 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945321950000000 exoteric Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Thanks to Michael O'Neill (the guy behind the camera and the production of these IE9 pieces). He's our rock star studio manager as well. I really like working with him which can only mean more great pieces like this -> Old School + New School. I think it works well.

 

We've always wanted to bring you directly into the conversation as it unfolds (inside offices, very little editing, real conversations). With Channel 9 Live (Nic Fillingham's baby with important contributions from Larry Litebulb Larsen and Michael O) we will make your direct involvement in steering the direction of these conversations even more explicit (in real time), as you witnessed during PDC09.

 

This generation of the Channel 9 team is in my opinion the best one to date. We're going to make it to the Super Bowl of transparent, customer-focused/driven conversation. In addition, as you have seen, we will bring you very polished and professional content that tells a story (VS documentary, History of MS, etc) and short films even (Halloween special, etc). Then there's the new Learning Center where we have substantial training materials that will continue to grow to cover much of Microsoft's development technologies. Truly a great resource.

 

We're becoming much more than we were and this is fantastic. I look forward to the future and you, Niners, will ride shotgun as we progress.

 

Cheers to all Niners, MS content contributors, Dan, Tina, Laura, Litebulb, Nic, Michael and Jeff.

 

9,

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945356350000000 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:13:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633945356350000000 Charles Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D there was a browser project called 'chrome' (also 'chrome-effects') in MSFT > 10 years ago. That incorporated DirectX Draw directly onto the browser surface. v cool demos shown at various internal thingies. Then it suddenly disappear. FInally we come full circle

posted by pm100

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633946137710000000 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:56:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633946137710000000 pm100 Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I hate new IE menu (since IE7). Way not the classic menu? All menu items are hidden. When I need to instruct a user by phone how to display the menu items is a BIG sacrifice.

posted by flaviowd

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633949636940000000 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:08:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633949636940000000 flaviowd Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D Thanks for the presentation.  Exciting stuff. 

 

I've done some digging through the Direct2D code and wanted to do something that's available in GDI+ such as DrawPie, FillPie, DrawArc, etc.  However, I don't find anything comparable to these.  So I tried to do an AddArc with a PathGeometry.  But, that seemed to insist on making a half semicircle, not the pie I was after.  Is there a way to do this?

(doing AddLine, AddBezier, AddLine comes to mind, but I'd rather not go that route). 

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

K

posted by ka

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633952123910000000 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:13:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633952123910000000 ka Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D This is obviously the wrong place, but is the Internet Explorer team stuck in the year 2003? 

 

This video presents all these 'new' features as if IE is on the cutting edge but in reality, IE is years behind almost every other engine. IE is holding back web development, not propelling it forward. When writing almost any type of code for anything online, I always have to have two versions, the standards compliant version and the IE version (And sometimes the IE6 version). 

 

Dont get me wrong, it is a good thing that IE is going somewhere, but these improvements are so pitiful compared to what other browsers are doing right now that they hardly even matter. Legacy and monopolization are the only reasons that IE has any market share and, as recent months have proven, more and more users are seeing the truth and choosing other browsers. 

 

 

posted by mrpiddly

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633990157240000000 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:42:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c633990157240000000 mrpiddly Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D I am really glad to see that the IE team is working on the next version of the Internet Explorer browser, but I see so many people who say that the browser still need some improvements to make it better in a lot of sections, including the security.

I wish the team all the best, and am looking forward for the new and improved version.

posted by Griddle

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c634131809680000000 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:29:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c634131809680000000 Griddle Re: IE 9: Surfing on the GPU with D2D posted by Masini de inchiriat

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c634209438150000000 Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:50:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D#c634209438150000000 Masini de inchiriat