John Merrill – First Look at Exchange 12 | Charles

More than half of all business email boxes are run by Exchange, according to Gartner. Here we spend 40 minutes talking about Exchange after John came over to Scoble’s office and gave us a demo of Exchange 12.
Especially impressive is Outlook Web Access which lets you get to your Exchange box from a Web browser.

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DevilsRejection addicted to rss

Nov 16, 2005 at 7:14 PM

I like how he said "we will let you access your data very easyly with OWA"

now it makes it ever so clear why microsoft purchased foldershare.

for people like me, who wouldn't need the power of an exchange server, just a simple user, who still wants to have all my contacts, emails, calenders avilable online, will a similar interface be developed for hotmail? which i hope gets changed to live.com

right now for me atleast it's abc@gmail.com i would love a abc@live.com

great ui, and as you said, this can be used as a replacement to outlook.
efortier

Nov 17, 2005 at 4:02 AM

man, your office looks like a warzone!
Massif aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.

Nov 17, 2005 at 5:42 AM

The new version of hotmail really is a lot like the interface for OWA.

Although it's not quite as fast as that.
j0217995

Nov 17, 2005 at 6:31 AM

Robert,

Thanks for the great video, it was very interesting to see Exchange 12 and OWA. Looking forward to it.

Was wondering if either you or Joh Merrill or someone from the Exchange could answer the question about Exchange12 and other products requiring 64-bit. I know it was discussed in a post in the Coffeehouse. Interesting that it is currently on Slashdot as well.
TravisOwens Life is short, drink hard.

Nov 17, 2005 at 9:43 AM

DevilsRejection wrote:

will a similar interface be developed for hotmail?

Microsoft is launching a totally new Hotmail and it will look a lot like Outlook/OWA hybrid. You can already see some previews at
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/msn_kahuna_preview.asp
CannedSoda

Nov 17, 2005 at 11:22 AM

He said OWA for Exch2003 was the first AJAX app. First AJAX app for Microsoft or from anyone? Wasn't it in Ray Ozzie's email about how OWA began AJAX but really didn't expand upon that?
mawcc Make it so

Nov 17, 2005 at 12:50 PM

I think he said OWA for Exchange 2000, not 2003. I remember it was already quite good, and that was waaaay before everybody started talking about AJAX.
Simo With me it's a full-time job.

Nov 18, 2005 at 12:01 AM

CannedSoda wrote:

He said OWA for Exch2003 was the first AJAX app. First AJAX app for Microsoft or from anyone?

mawcc wrote:

I think he said OWA for Exchange 2000, not 2003. I remember it was already quite good, and that was waaaay before everybody started talking about AJAX.

OWA for Exchange 2000 literally was the grand-daddy of AJAX. AJAX leverages the XmlHttp object for communication with the server "in the background". The XmlHttp object in IE was developed primarily for OWA.

A few articles MSDN later and a team I worked on started using it for internal corporate web applications. The Soap wizard & web behavior shipped and things became simple. Skip forward a few years, an XMLHttp implementation goes into Firefox/Mozilla and Google picks up the stick and runs with it.

There's guys on the team I used to work with that regularly deconstruct the gmail / gmap code. The Google developers seem to have learnt a lot tricks to really push the performance.
malmer

Nov 20, 2005 at 12:14 AM

mawcc wrote:

I think he said OWA for Exchange 2000, not 2003. I remember it was already quite good, and that was waaaay before everybody started talking about AJAX.

With WebOS back in 1999 we were doing AJAX and browser client side app code before OWA. Allthough we didn't use XmlHttp at the time since it didn't exist afik, we had an API quite similiar to Windows Forms or Java Swing. Netscape 4 compatability was painful...

Anyways, the things we're seeing now is roughly what we had before the "dot-com death".
edbrill

Nov 21, 2005 at 10:45 AM

Charles,

What Gartner report indicates that Exchange has over half of the business e-mail market?
John Westworth

Dec 11, 2005 at 11:00 AM

Hi Ed,

I think he may actually have been referring to the IDC report

Or it could have been the Radicatti Report of 2004

Or the Ferris Research Report

As you're probably aware the Gartner Report actually shows MS with slightly below 50%

I also believe there's a newer Gartner report which shows the stats closer to 50%

Sorry for the confusion - hope that this clears it up.
mrports

Dec 14, 2005 at 3:10 AM

A couple of observations.

John states that since Exchange 4.0 there have been 64 API's for Exchange. He agrees that this is confusing. So in Exchange 12 they are adding a few more?!

John tries a couple of ways to access his live production Exchange 12 server and fails. He states that it must have been taken down to upgrade. Shouldn't there be some resiliance in a production system, for example cluster members which will cover for a node being upgraded?

Seems that E12 makes it more complex and less reliable.