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Made In Express: The Contest

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Dan Fernandez et al are at it again with another cool contest for Visual Studio Express developers: Made In Express. You could win 10,000 US Dollars! Get to it, Niners.

In this video we catch up with Mark Jewett and Dan Fernandez, a couple of the minds behind the contest, and talk about, well, the contest.

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  • Great contest! I'll be in it! Wish me luck Smiley

  • ZeoZeo Channel 9 :)
    I interviewed with Dan yesterday. He's a smart guy and he's able to juggle 10 million things at once.
  • The hard part is the Ideas part WinkTongue Out
  • Submitted two ideas, don't think they are award winning but you can hope! Would be great just to be in the last 12.
  • Xaero_VincentXaero_​Vincent Sexy me

    Cool video. That technology fair down in the Bay Area sounds like fun. The guy mentioned that Express users will be pleased with an upcoming announcement? Extend the free download of the Visual Studio Express product line indefinitely? Tongue Out

    One major problem though. Why does the video output turn green and the camera flip upside down? No I'm not joking.. this seems to happen with the .NET show videos as well and I'm using IE6 & 7!


    Regards,
    Vincent

  • Alexei PavlovBlackTiger If you stumbled and fell down, it doesn't mean yet, that you're going in the wrong direction.
    What happened with my WMP after last "security updates"?!?!?!?

    I can't open files from internet directly. Just receiving stupid message about "not connected to internet".Mad
  • I tried to fill in the form for entering the competition
    at this url:
    http://www.madeinexpress.com/entry.asp

    and was disapointed when I couldn't find my country "Libya" listed in the countries  list box  .. 
    So I will not participate until such an issue would be corrected ..

    I hope that this was an error and not based on prejudice or racist view on your part ... Sad
  • harumscarumharumscarum out of memory
    TheLibyanGuy wrote:


    I hope that this was an error and not based on prejudice or racist view on your part ...


    nope. Look in the rules:

    MS wrote:

    5) ELIGIBILITY: This Contest is open to individuals 13 years of age or older at time of entry. Void where prohibited by law, including the countries of Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria. Employees of Microsoft Corporation, and anyone working directly on Microsoft programs and their respective affiliates, parent companies, subsidiaries, prize suppliers, promotion, advertising and promotional agencies, and the immediate family members and persons living in the households of each are not eligible to enter.
  • ben2004uk wrote:
    Submitted two ideas, don't think they are award winning but you can hope! Would be great just to be in the last 12.
    we can submit two ideas? i don't think so.
  • You can submit multiple entries. Phew, I do not have to choose.  Smiley

    http://www.madeinexpresscontest.com/rules.asp
    You may submit as many entries as you like, but each submission must be for a unique Project, and you may be selected as a Finalist one (1) time only, to build the Project specified in the entry selected by a panel of qualified judges.

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  • Dan FernandezDan
    TheLibyanGuy wrote:
    I tried to fill in the form for entering the competition
    at this url:
    http://www.madeinexpress.com/entry.asp

    and was disapointed when I couldn't find my country "Libya" listed in the countries  list box  .. 
    So I will not participate until such an issue would be corrected ..

    I hope that this was an error and not based on prejudice or racist view on your part ...


    Hi Libyan guy,

    The issue here is that the United States, by law, prevents us from extending the contest to the countries noted in the rules. There isn't much we can do here unfortunately because of this legal restriction.

    Thanks,
    -Dan
  • Mr Dan

    I don't see any justificastion of your explanation but utter ignorance and misunderstanding ...
    Just to keep you in the know .. I assure you that Microsoft is already officially doing business in Libya..
    And the rules you put in your contest are unfair .. just for the sake of argument rephrase your rule number 5 to read as follows:

    "5) ELIGIBILITY: This Contest is open to individuals 13 years of age or older at time of entry. Void where prohibited by law, including the countries of Germany, Italy, France , Malta and Mexico .  etc...."


    I'm sure that such a rule would be considered unfair and unjust.


    And another argument is that any person above 13 years may participate .. So let's assume that some-one  under 16 was considering participation .. According to you rules he'll be accepted if he is above 13 .. In other words such a person would fall in the age range of 13 to 16 .. and hence he would be considered as a child ..
    And this rule would be a violation to his right because someone from the mentioned countries would not be allowed .. in contrary to the
    "United Nations General Assembly adopted Convention on the Rights of the Child" and specifically Article 2 which states:

    Article 2
    1. States Parties shall respect and ensure the rights set forth in the present Convention to each child within their jurisdiction without discrimination of any kind, irrespective of the child's or his or her parent's or legal guardian's race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or or other opinion, national, ethnic or social origin, property, disability, birth or other status.

    see http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/pdf/crc.pdf for more details


    SO I would kindly ask you to remove rule number (5) from your contest rules which I consider offensive and unfair ..

    May be such a rule slips un-noticed due to the frequent usage in various instances, but for me I do recognize it's negative impact on many people...

    Thanks for your Reconsideration ..

    Noting that I had been a regular visitor to your excellent Channel9 site
  • Dan FernandezDan
    Wow, great response, I'm going to have to forward your comments to our legal counsel as I am not a lawyer. To give you some context, we have a legal representative dedicated to contests and they decide the exact terms and restrictions, not me. Let me see if I can get you a response...

    Thanks,
    -Dan

    TheLibyanGuy wrote:
    Mr Dan

    I don't see any justificastion of your explanation but utter ignorance and misunderstanding ...
    Just to keep you in the know .. I assure you that Microsoft is already officially doing business in Libya..
    And the rules you put in your contest are unfair .. just for the sake of argument rephrase your rule number 5 to read as follows:

    "5) ELIGIBILITY: This Contest is open to individuals 13 years of age or older at time of entry. Void where prohibited by law, including the countries of Germany, Italy, France , Malta and Mexico .  etc...."


    I'm sure that such a rule would be considered unfair and unjust.


    And another argument is that any person above 13 years may participate .. So let's assume that some-one  under 16 was considering participation .. According to you rules he'll be accepted if he is above 13 .. In other words such a person would fall in the age range of 13 to 16 .. and hence he would be considered as a child ..
    And this rule would be a violation to his right because someone from the mentioned countries would not be allowed .. in contrary to the
    "United Nations General Assembly adopted Convention on the Rights of the Child" and specifically Article 2 which states:

    Article 2
    1. States Parties shall respect and ensure the rights set forth in the present Convention to each child within their jurisdiction without discrimination of any kind, irrespective of the child's or his or her parent's or legal guardian's race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or or other opinion, national, ethnic or social origin, property, disability, birth or other status.

    see http://www.ohchr.org/english/law/pdf/crc.pdf for more details


    SO I would kindly ask you to remove rule number (5) from your contest rules which I consider offensive and unfair ..

    May be such a rule slips un-noticed due to the frequent usage in various instances, but for me I do recognize it's negative impact on many people...

    Thanks for your Reconsideration ..

    Noting that I had been a regular visitor to your excellent Channel9 site
  • Officially: MS IBM Oracle + many other US companies (Oil, high-tech etc.) are doing business in Libya and at the same time they have Libya listed as u mentioned above

    We can't get it
    it is called hypocrisy

    r u dealing w/Libya or are you not?????

    My only conclusion is that they have found some legal loophole to allow them to milk any ready cash from Libya with minimum commitments (they call it per project clearance basis)

    for such a contest I would rather not participate (child or not)
    unless of-course you can get me "special clearance" (that will get your lawyers a lot of extra work) but then you won't get any cash from me...so chances are zilch

    thanks & best wishes to the contestants

     

     

  • Dan FernandezDan

    Hello again,

    Below is the response from our legal counsel with regards to Libyan participation in the contest:

    Thanks for your inquiry.  Unfortunately U.S. Export Administration regulations and trade sanctions restrict U.S. Corporations from conducting certain types of business in the countries mentioned in the ineligible list in the official rules.  As Microsoft could be prohibited from sending a resident of those countries a prize, we have voided the contest in those countries.   Please understand that these decisions are solely based on United State laws.

    With regards to the age requirement, for various reasons including privacy protection, Microsoft has determined that 13 years is an appropriate age at which to limit entry.  We appreciate your interest in the contest, however, the rules as published govern the execution and administration of the contest and they will not be altered.   But we do appreciate your thoughtful comments and will take them into consideration when planning future contests.

    Thanks,
    -Dan

  • LopezLopez Halo2  warrior
    I would like to thank the Express team for giving the express editions of C#, VB.NET and WebDev. for free, It was very kind of you guys.
    Another big thank you for creating this great contest where many people can contribute with their ideas and potential.
    Some boys and girls here in Montreal are now looking at .NET seriously, you see , Montreal is mostly Java, but it's time for a change.
    thank you.

     
  • I like it.Thank you,every one.Tongue Out
  • I'm sorry that I can't vist that website.

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