Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/249206_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter Mike Swanson has done it again!  Check out his (http://www.mikeswanson.com/swf2xaml) SWF to XAML converter.  Wow! In this segment, he demos the tool in action and explains the secrets of how he pulled it off. Karsten Januszewski conducts the interview. en Tue, 21 May 2013 04:10:18 GMT Tue, 21 May 2013 04:10:18 GMT Rev9 Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter Dudes,

Looks really cool!

The link doesn't work on the article though, sends me to MS IT OWA.

posted by tenorwoody85

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997243940000000 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:46:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997243940000000 Charles Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter

posted by OmegaSupreme

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997370740000000 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:17:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997370740000000 OmegaSupreme Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter posted by macbirdie

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997456210000000 Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:40:21 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997456210000000 macbirdie Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter

macbirdie wrote:
It's as if a thousand Adobe developers scream in terror and are then suddenly silenced.


Until it supports ActionScript I don't think anyone is *too* worried.  Of course a XAML-SWF converter would be spectacular and allow Microsoft to take advantage of the huge installation base of Flash.

I'd always thought the SWF spec proprietary though, I'm surprised it is as open as it appears to be.


Edit: Having thought a little more about it, isn't there a Javascript implementation for the CLR? ActionScript is essentially the same (EcmaScript) - although I guess it would involve reworking all of the existing Flash AS apis.

posted by Rossj

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997884020000000 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:33:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997884020000000 Rossj Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
Rossj wrote:
This looks interesting
isn't there a Javascript implementation for the CLR?


Dude, do you forget JScript.NET?

Sheva

posted by footballism

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997924660000000 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:41:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632997924660000000 footballism Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
Rossj wrote:
I'd always thought the SWF spec proprietary though, I'm surprised it is as open as it appears to be.


For context, Adobe does make the Flash file format specification available: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/developer/. Unfortunately, their license was too restrictive for my needs, so I had to use other publicly available information on the internet (and there's a lot of it) to build the SWF2XAML tool. It's also important to note that I've built a converter, not a player. My goal is not to play back Flash content.

The inspiration for this tool came from many of the early adopters I've been working with over the past couple of years. A lot of them have content in the form of SWF files, and they want to use some of that content in their WPF applications. In many cases, they no longer have the original Flash project files (.FLA). So, this tool was built to help solve those needs.

posted by mswanson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998139760000000 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:39:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998139760000000 mswanson Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter A previous version of the Vista Smalltalk interpreter used a Javascript-like syntax, and I still have the Antlr syntax for it. It should be fairly simple to modify it for ActionScript.

The interpreter is designed for (hopefully) running in WPF/e.

https://vistasmalltalk.wordpress.com/
http://vistascript.net/vistascript/docuwiki/doku.php

Time to sell your Adobe shares!

posted by pfisk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998181790000000 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:49:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998181790000000 pfisk Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter 11½ minute walk-through of the tool.

posted by mswanson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998244110000000 Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:33:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632998244110000000 mswanson Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
mswanson wrote:

Rossj wrote: I'd always thought the SWF spec proprietary though, I'm surprised it is as open as it appears to be.



 In many cases, they no longer have the original Flash project files (.FLA). So, this tool was built to help solve those needs.



So now it's easier to pillage someone else’s work? Great... Ahh… gotta love the irony here MS helping people steal copyrighted art work and port it to a useable format.

Just cause they may say they no longer have the fla doesn’t mean they had it to begin with. I can’t believe I’m reading this. Expressionless

posted by Sourcecode

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999149830000000 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 21:43:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999149830000000 Sourcecode Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
Sourcecode wrote:
So now it's easier to pillage someone else’s work? Great... Ahh… gotta love the irony here MS helping people steal copyrighted art work and port it to a useable format.

Just cause they may say they no longer have the fla doesn’t mean they had it to begin with. I can’t believe I’m reading this.



Believe it, Sourcecode. In a few very large cases that I'm aware of, third-parties were hired to deliver thousands of small Flash animations, but they never thought to obtain the original FLA files. Today, when they're considering an update to WPF, they find themselves out of luck. This tool allows them to preserve some of their investment in those assets.

posted by mswanson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999167380000000 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:12:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999167380000000 mswanson Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
mswanson wrote:

Sourcecode wrote: So now it's easier to pillage someone else’s work? Great... Ahh… gotta love the irony here MS helping people steal copyrighted art work and port it to a useable format.

Just cause they may say they no longer have the fla doesn’t mean they had it to begin with. I can’t believe I’m reading this.



Believe it, Sourcecode. In a few very large cases that I'm aware of, third-parties were hired to deliver thousands of small Flash animations, but they never thought to obtain the original FLA files. Today, when they're considering an update to WPF, they find themselves out of luck. This tool allows them to preserve some of their investment in those assets.



I don't want to cause any grief for you but I really need to post something about this in the coffehouse to get other opinions. It’s not as much a tool problem as a double standard thing that really kind of itches me wrong.

Please come and join the discussion there.

posted by Sourcecode

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999189530000000 Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:49:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999189530000000 Sourcecode Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter link to the Coffeehouse thread.

posted by mswanson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999258330000000 Fri, 24 Nov 2006 00:43:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c632999258330000000 mswanson Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter I'll take the words of "OmegaSupreme" and "macbirdie" and say

Begun the vector wars has and a thousand Adobe developers scream in real terror and are then suddenly silenced!

Good, no..., Great job Mike!

posted by delcom5

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c633001654250000000 Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:17:05 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c633001654250000000 delcom5 Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter The ability to convert from one format to another is, to me, always a win-win situation.  The source software continues to be a viable content development platform (e.g. designers continue to get to work in Adobe product suite) and new software is afforded a migration/conversion path from existing technologies (e.g. VS guys can work with existing content). 

It's sad to me that vendors don't see these scenarios as opportunities.  I mean, wouldn't it be nicer to see the headline "Microsoft and Adobe work together to ensure seamless integration between Flash and Expression design tools"?  Wouldn't you be more inclined to accept a solution that used either company's technology than to eschew all current formats for a new one?

I for one think a tool like this ought not be a tool, but rather an implicit feature in both Expression/Orcas and Flash.  Making customers conform to your product line is so, 1999. Tongue Out

posted by leadfoot

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c633007551930000000 Sun, 03 Dec 2006 15:06:33 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Mike-Swanson-SWF-to-WPF-Converter#c633007551930000000 ljuvefreya Re: Mike Swanson: SWF to WPF Converter
Sourcecode wrote:


I don't want to cause any grief for you but I really need to post something about this in the coffehouse to get other opinions. It’s not as much a tool problem as a double standard thing that really kind of itches me wrong.



Here's one interesting story:

http://www.advogato.org/article/101.html



posted by mano

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