Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/249277_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World If you write STL code and want take advantage of the BCL while still being able to write STL code, then you're in luck. How so? Well, Nikola Dudar, program manager in the VC++ Libraries Group explains, in detail, the Orcas STLCLR library. We also dig into the evolutionary trajectory of VC++, and discuss some other interesting Orcas C++ libraries. Tune in. Lots of great stuff going on in VC++ World... en Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:23 GMT Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:23 GMT Rev9 Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World
The biggest example is iteratators and how lovely orthogonal they are. Take <algorithm>; any of those algorithms are applicable to anything that even remotely looks like an iterator. Yet in the managed world, most of those algorithms are class members, and quite often I've found myself needing to sort an IList<T>, which isn't possible directly since Sort is a member of List<T>. If you want to sort e.g. a LinkedList<T> you either need to copy the contents to a List<T> or an array first or roll your own sort. That is not othogonal. A static method somewhere to sort any IList<T> (sorta like Array.Sort, only with ILists instead) would go a long way.

posted by Sven Groot

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633075568560000000 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:27:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633075568560000000 Sven Groot Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World For the last several weeks, I have not been able to play the smaller bandwidth-friendly .WMV "Full Screen" version.  The Download version works fine.  I get the following error -

Windows Media Player encountered a problem while playing the file. For additional assistance, click Web Help.

You've encountered error message C00D11B1 while using Windows Media Player. The following information might help you troubleshoot the issue.

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Original Error Code: C00D002B
 Original Error Message:  The request is invalid in the current state.
 


XP SP2, WMP 11

Is it just me?

Am I high on crack?

posted by jjones

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633075721060000000 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:41:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633075721060000000 jjones Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World Does anyone know if managed C++ is being used in any production products?

Microsoft seems to be all but ignoring unmanaged development now, continually pounding out this "managed managed managed" mantra for C++.  But I've yet to encounter anything but unmanaged in the wild, so I would be interested to see what managed is being used for.

posted by PhrostByte

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633076585260000000 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:42:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633076585260000000 PhrostByte Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World
PhrostByte wrote:


Does anyone know if managed C++ is being used in any production products?

Microsoft seems to be all but ignoring unmanaged development now, continually pounding out this "managed managed managed" mantra for C++.  But I've yet to encounter anything but unmanaged in the wild, so I would be interested to see what managed is being used for.



What gives you this impression? C++ CLI is mostly used for interop between C++ and managed. It's a great (and natural) way to .NET enable unmanaged applications... So, consider the case when you want to interop with .NET from MFC, for example. We will be releasing a video on Channel 9 that provides an example of exactly this in, yes, a shipping MS product...
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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633077175220000000 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:05:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633077175220000000 Charles Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World
dont forget: the best video on channel9 is still the hike with Bill Hill!

i'm really looking forward to watching the video on native/managed integration in a shipping product. i suppose visual studio itself might be the product with the most interop going on....

posted by mwirth

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633078551760000000 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:19:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633078551760000000 mwirth Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World
PhrostByte wrote:


Does anyone know if managed C++ is being used in any production products?

Microsoft seems to be all but ignoring unmanaged development now, continually pounding out this "managed managed managed" mantra for C++.  But I've yet to encounter anything but unmanaged in the wild, so I would be interested to see what managed is being used for.





I usually do not login to reply to this board, but I had to this time.  (BTW I LOVE CHANNEL 9, I watch it everyday while I code in my igloo (I live in Toronto, Canada)).

I use Managed C++ in some of my applications that is part of  a production system.  The code is part of a communications application (cant tell ya more than that) that is originally written in UnManaged C++ ( I wont use the word legacy).   I like the mix of unmanged C++ and managed C++ together.  For me, I will code in the right language/framework to completed the solution.

^ So do not be scared to try out a Managed / Unmanaged C++ combo together !

If you watch all the VC++ videos here on channel 9, you would know that Microsoft is not  pushing "managed managed managed".  I suggest you watch the video:

BEST Channel 9 video on the server

BTW, can we have more VC++ interviews Smiley [6]

note: I just finished my morning coffee so I maybe no a sugar high for the next 20 minutes Tongue Out

posted by CPrest

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633078912630000000 Sat, 24 Feb 2007 05:21:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633078912630000000 CPrest Re: Nikola Dudar: STLCLR - STL Development in the Managed World jjones -

You're high! Smiley

Works fine here - XP SP2 & WMP 11

 

posted by WebDancer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633083538420000000 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:50:42 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Nikola-Dudar-STLCLR-STL-Development-in-the-Managed-World#c633083538420000000 WebDancer