Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Chadk — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:10:31 GMT

WOOT! Its scoble!

Great stuff
He do look at bit sad. Which it really is

posted by Chadk

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

RobertScoble — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:13:03 GMT

I was sad.

It is an awesome job. Probably the best one I'll ever have.

The book was Innovators' Dillemma by Clay Christensen, by the way. Here's an article about him in Fast Company Magazine: http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/76/revolution.html

posted by RobertScoble

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

mVPstar — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:15:32 GMT

RobertScoble wrote:

...

RobertScoble?

No scobleizer?

posted by mVPstar

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

RobertScoble — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:22:27 GMT

I couldn't figure out how to get into my Scobleizer account now that my Microsoft email address is dead and I forgot my password. I guess I could ask Charles, but figured I'd just change to a new identity.

posted by RobertScoble

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:24:06 GMT

Scobs,

Please use your other account, scobleizer. I've updated the email address to the one you used for the RobertScoble account.

C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:25:24 GMT

RobertScoble wrote:

I couldn't figure out how to get into my Scobleizer account now that my Microsoft email address is dead and I forgot my password. I guess I could ask Charles, but figured I'd just change to a new identity.

See my last reply. You should keep your old identity on C9... You are scobleizer here....

Glad to see you posting!

C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Chadk — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:40:58 GMT

Will you still be posting here?

EDIT: Oh, you answered that in the video!

I also wanna see more tours, like the one scoble said, with Bill Hill, which IMO is one of the VERY best videos on Channel9!

omg.. Charles laughing. Nice.

posted by Chadk

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

mattcampbell — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 22:44:59 GMT

It's Finally Up! I'm downloading it now.

Great Interview by the way.

posted by mattcampbell

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

raymond — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:09:04 GMT

A very insightful and revealing interview.

One of Channel 9's best.

We will miss you and your joyous laugh.

Have fun and enjoy the sun.

posted by raymond

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

rjdohnert — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:11:11 GMT

Good luck Robert, enjoy your new post and best wishes for you and your family.

posted by rjdohnert

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

josh_harris — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:16:52 GMT

Yes, been waiting for a while for this, am downloading it now, sad to see you go Scoble

posted by josh_harris

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Manip — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:25:26 GMT

Bye Scoble, good luck at the new job.

PS - Your interview technique was original and good even if I did give you a hard time here or there.

posted by Manip

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

doncho — Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:44:22 GMT

Best of luck to you Robert! You did a lot for Microsoft and I'll miss working with you.
-Don

posted by doncho

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

leadfoot — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:27:54 GMT

Good luck to Mr. Scoble and his family in future endeavors. I've almost no activity in these forums, but I feel compelled to say that I have enjoyed the rawness of his interview style and his lack of fear when discussing real issues that exist with Microsoft as a company and a social ecosystem.

Channel9 will continue to thrive and be a great resource, but it would behoove successors to seek out a level of deference to the "grassroots" mission of Channel9 that Scoble clearly espoused.

posted by leadfoot

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

W3bbo — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:35:04 GMT

Sad to see him go, the C9 videos will never be the same again (we'll need someone with an even more annoying laugh by the looks of things)

Ah well, best of luck/wishes/stuff Scoble. Just keep posting here.

posted by W3bbo

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

iStation — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:42:44 GMT

"Profit in business comes from repeat customers, customers that boast about your project or service and that bring friends with them."
- W.Edwards Deming (U.S. statistician, 1900-93)

"Who are you?"
- R.Scoble (U.S. blogger, 19??-)

Good luck to Scoble!

iStation
from Japan

posted by iStation

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

jeffsand — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:45:59 GMT

W3bbo wrote:

(we'll need someone with an even more annoying laugh by the looks of things)

We actually have a Scoble laugh track recorded and will mix those in with the videos at opportune moments moving forward.

posted by jeffsand

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Kintan — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:48:52 GMT

We will miss the simple "Who are you?", with which Robert starts his Channel 9 interview (whether it is BillG or any other guest)

Thank you for all you've done for Channel 9.

-Kintan

posted by Kintan

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:52:27 GMT

leadfoot wrote:

Channel9 will continue to thrive and be a great resource, but it would behoove successors to seek out a level of deference to the "grassroots" mission of Channel9 that Scoble clearly espoused.

Well, considering that Jeff and I are two of the co-founders of Channel 9, this won't be an issue. We are well aware of the "grassroots" mission of Channel 9 since we created the mission....

C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 00:53:18 GMT

Kintan wrote:

We will miss the simple "Who are you?", with which Robert starts his Channel 9 interview (whether it is BillG or any other guest)

Thank you for all you've done for Channel 9.

-Kintan

Yes. Thank you, Scoble. You will be missed.
C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

RobertScoble — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:14:27 GMT

Man, you guys all act like you've gotten rid of me or I've died or something. Heheh.

Anyway, that question came out of my laziness: I never marked the tapes for who was on them.

So, I'd start each tape out with that question so that if someone found those tapes in 100 years they'd know exactly who was on them and what they did.

I hope Charles keeps doing that, for just that reason, by the way.

I discovered later that that is a good way to start a conversation on video since the viewer has no idea who they are seeing and why they are or aren't important to be listening to.

posted by RobertScoble

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:24:29 GMT

Yeah, Scoble exited the Channel 9 Team, not Channel 9.

I'm not sure I want to use your signature interview opener. I get the basic idea, but need to find my own voice... If you listen to my interviews you will notice a pattern, even if it spans more than one interview. Still a pattern.

C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

jsampsonPC — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:39:06 GMT

Scoble, I don't blame you for leaving - if they made me code on a clunky CRT all day, I'd bust outta that joint too

posted by jsampsonPC

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

eagle — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 01:54:31 GMT

Thanks for the conversations, keep in touch....and best of luck...

posted by eagle

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

mVPstar — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 02:13:42 GMT

Sorry to see you leave Scoble. Hope you have the best of luck!

posted by mVPstar

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

BenZilla — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:27:50 GMT

gg Scoble

posted by BenZilla

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

LaBomba — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:29:39 GMT

Good luck scoble.

LB

posted by LaBomba

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

jsampsonPC — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 03:36:37 GMT

mVPstar wrote:

RobertScoble?
No scobleizer?

RobertScoble wrote:

I couldn't figure out how to get into my Scobleizer account now that my Microsoft email address is dead and I forgot my password. I guess I could ask Charles, but figured I'd just change to a new identity.

Charles wrote:

Scobs,

Please use your other account, scobleizer. I've updated the email address to the one you used for the RobertScoble account.

...and that my friend is lesson 101 of Social Engineering...we'll pick up tomorrow where we left off

posted by jsampsonPC

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

out180 — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:06:35 GMT

Great interview guys, well done. I look forward to seeing what Scoble comes up with next. Good luck.

Charles, great questions and vision for the future. I look forward to what C9 has on the horizon. A great reminder as to why I'm here.

posted by out180

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

asharism — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:39:54 GMT

Thanks for making Channel9 what it is. The interviews and discussions here provide invaluable insight. We could not have had a better candidate to start this.

Good luck Scoble, for your future endeavor. I'm glad you'll keep posting on Channel9 and thus stay in touch here.

posted by asharism

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

TheSchwartz — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:14:31 GMT

Great interview, guys. You not only speak of but you demonstrate your own points. You're honestly and openly saying what you think, and it makes sense. What you're saying and what you're doing is equally a tribute to Microsoft, who has paid you and encouraged you to do it. It seems to me this kind of intelligence and openness and communication is a really good response to the various kinds of anti-Microsoft bigotry. And what you're saying and what you're doing is a credit to and proof of the new medium and new technology that makes this all possible.

Muchos kudos,

TheSchwartz

www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com

posted by TheSchwartz

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

amotif — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 05:15:25 GMT

Nice interview on both sides of the camera.

Robert, good luck on your new venture! And the one beyond that, and the one beyond that, and the one beyond that!

posted by amotif

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

IRenderable — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 07:11:22 GMT

jsampsonPC wrote:

mVPstar wrote:
RobertScoble?
No scobleizer?

RobertScoble wrote:
I couldn't figure out how to get into my Scobleizer account now that my Microsoft email address is dead and I forgot my password. I guess I could ask Charles, but figured I'd just change to a new identity.

Charles wrote:
Scobs,

Please use your other account, scobleizer. I've updated the email address to the one you used for the RobertScoble account.

...and that my friend is lesson 101 of Social Engineering...we'll pick up tomorrow where we left off

Except he is the mod and can see the IP addresses so he knows if he posted from the same place or not for both accounts.

posted by IRenderable

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Ion Todirel — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 07:34:59 GMT

buy buy Robert, don't forget niners love you, ~~niners~~ angels be with you, good luck

posted by Ion Todirel

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

jsampsonPC — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 07:51:57 GMT

IRenderable wrote:

jsampsonPC wrote:

mVPstar wrote:
RobertScoble?
No scobleizer?

RobertScoble wrote:
I couldn't figure out how to get into my Scobleizer account now that my Microsoft email address is dead and I forgot my password. I guess I could ask Charles, but figured I'd just change to a new identity.

Charles wrote:
Scobs,

Please use your other account, scobleizer. I've updated the email address to the one you used for the RobertScoble account.

...and that my friend is lesson 101 of Social Engineering...we'll pick up tomorrow where we left off

Except he is the mod and can see the IP addresses so he knows if he posted from the same place or not for both accounts.

Nah, there wasn't an IP checking state - We all know it's Scoble...no need for Charles to check the IP addresses. Plus, even if they were two different addresses, that still probably wouldn't have deterred Charles from reissuing Scobles account - simple because IP's are not set in marble.

Anyway, I just meant the post to be fun and give this thread a mitnick-ish feel

posted by jsampsonPC

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

NAXIMUS — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 08:14:18 GMT

Best of luck for your future endeavors.

posted by NAXIMUS

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

jamie — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 08:34:44 GMT

robert - best of luck!

but i really wanted to point out Charles
great "hardball"

simply amazing. res-pec
and yes - i cried - but on a certain CT question not really the reply by RS/you

*see what happens when you leave?...but not leave;) (der der der deeeer..

posted by jamie

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

littleguru — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 08:39:20 GMT

Good luck Scoble. I'm going to miss your voice... Great that Charles is still in the team At least one of the common voices that isn't missing.

Keep on posting guys.

posted by littleguru

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

fowl — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 09:31:11 GMT

Charles seems dissapointed almost to the point of being hostile at some points.

posted by fowl

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

leighsword — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 10:24:16 GMT

Downloading... cannot wait to see, but the speed is very slowly, 2.81 KB/s. Is there so many people are watching?

posted by leighsword

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Cyonix — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:09:30 GMT

Good luck with the new job Robert

posted by Cyonix

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

yman — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 11:36:56 GMT

Remember that song called "Bye Bye Mr CIO Guy..." which was song by Pat Helland? We should make a pun of that for Scoble.

Bye Bye Mr Scoble, Old boy
You taught us all the joys of blogging ....

(cant think of anything else)

posted by yman

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Reboots DaMachina — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 13:36:51 GMT

Good luck Scoble! We'll be watching whatever you do. --Reboots

posted by Reboots DaMachina

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

W3bbo — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 15:21:19 GMT

Charles wrote:

leadfoot wrote:

Channel9 will continue to thrive and be a great resource, but it would behoove successors to seek out a level of deference to the "grassroots" mission of Channel9 that Scoble clearly espoused.

Well, considering that Jeff and I are two of the co-founders of Channel 9, this won't be an issue. We are well aware of the "grassroots" mission of Channel 9 since we created the mission....

C

It's been a long time since I last read the thread that explained how it got started, but you're saying Scoble was added after C9 was established?

posted by W3bbo

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

j0217995 — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 17:19:41 GMT

Robert,

Good luck, we have disagreed in the past, and I hope to disagree with you in the future. THanks for the time you spent w/ my wife and I when we were in Seattle and for the "tour" of MS including the company store. Thanks for everything. Did you take any Team99 jackets w/ you ?

posted by j0217995

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:20:23 GMT

W3bbo wrote:

Charles wrote:

leadfoot wrote:

Channel9 will continue to thrive and be a great resource, but it would behoove successors to seek out a level of deference to the "grassroots" mission of Channel9 that Scoble clearly espoused.

Well, considering that Jeff and I are two of the co-founders of Channel 9, this won't be an issue. We are well aware of the "grassroots" mission of Channel 9 since we created the mission....

C

It's been a long time since I last read the thread that explained how it got started, but you're saying Scoble was added after C9 was established?

No. Scoble is a co-founder. Since two fo us are left, the vision is in good hands. Plus the new guys on the team really get it. So, all is fine for the future. I'll miss working with Scoble, but C9 will not skip a beat.
C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:21:30 GMT

fowl wrote:

Charles seems dissapointed almost to the point of being hostile at some points.

Hostile? Nah. Disappointed, sure.
C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

UlsterFry — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:31:42 GMT

You guys should sample Robert saying 'And who are you?' and play it back at the start of the interview, ...maybe even stuff the playback device inside a 9 guy!

oh and... ..Good luck Scoble!

posted by UlsterFry

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

TommyCarlier — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 18:32:52 GMT

This was a cool, open and honest interview. Like many others, I will miss Robert's style. But I think the current C9 team is doing a great job, and will continue to do that. One other thing: did I hear that right? Video comments?

posted by TommyCarlier

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Pimp Daddy — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 20:38:11 GMT

I've seen some excellent interviews on Channel9, but in my opinion that was the best. Scoble made some great points about things like startup companies and why the iPod is so successful, but I think the best bit of the whole interview was the discussion about the 'me' culture.

Scoble - it's a shame you've left MS, but good luck with Podtech any anything else you do in the future.

posted by Pimp Daddy

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

GSKTechnologies — Sat, 08 Jul 2006 21:00:28 GMT

Good luck to you Robert!

posted by GSKTechnologies

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Jasp — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 01:05:20 GMT

Fabulous Interview!

posted by Jasp

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Custard555 — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:01:26 GMT

Maybe this will prove that one person can make a difference at Microsoft, I know the rest of the team will continue to do there best, but I can not help the feeling channel 9 has lost apart of its “taste”. I know I don’t post a lot but I almost hang onto everything said on C9 and I believe Scoble made me think that way ( I know it sounds weird but I can’t really explain it in text) some how he made me think I have been visiting the site for years on my first hit. But I truly believe if we give the new guys a chance, it will be best for both parties

posted by Custard555

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

yman — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 03:22:18 GMT

One other thing, Charles should blog more! It would be nice to know his opinions on the world of tech

posted by yman

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

zokbari — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 06:30:31 GMT

Too sad.
I will be missing his cool smile and laugh.

Good luck
-one of your fan-

posted by zokbari

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

McDonald — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 09:25:31 GMT

Robert

So sorry to see you go but it looks like a good opportunity for you. I agree with your points about blogging or doing an interview - you do have to be aware of what you say. When talking with the public there's a bit of a gray line for what you should say and what you shouldn't. It's easy when youu're talking about your passions. It didn't keep me from talking about the iPod though.

A chance connection was my introduction to Robert and Channel 9. I enjoyed doing the interview with him and sorry we can't do another.

posted by McDonald

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

leighsword — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 12:34:51 GMT

It recall me who the founders of SAP(They were working at IBM, constantly building similar applications over and over again for clients in Germany. They said, "Hey! We could standardize this." They took it to their bosses at IBM and the bosses said, "I don't think so.") after watched the Video, in fact, the big companies like MS are not easy to change, that predetermine they are less innovative than small company. Hope you can prove MS is wrong, Bill Gates is shortsighted, Steve Ballmer is dumb, and Jeff and Charles is hateful(just kidding:)). Good bye and Good luck.

posted by leighsword

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

RobertScoble — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 17:39:55 GMT

Marc, the interview with you was one of my favorites! Hey, why can't we do another? Just won't be on Channel 9.

posted by RobertScoble

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

notuptome — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 20:16:08 GMT

Robert   i would like to see you as with many would like to see you continuing video logs as i call them, so wondering if you could still do it and then post them up somewher on the net or somthing like maby a week to week thing wher ya just update us on you and things you may or may not be doing , possabley gieving us a nice tour of   silicon valley and many other places i think it be great if you could, dosant need to be every week but like a every once in awile a lengthy video or somthing. and on a finale note ide like to say your better interviewer then 98% of the other interviewes in the world besides the channel 9 team anyways anyone outside them isant as great or good and def. not as good as you. so hey just keep in touch and if ya can try and do a video log thing for us so we can keep up on what roberts doing and wher is he at.

for Kicks

Theorizing that one could time-travel within his own lifetime, Robert Scoble jumpt in to the Quantum Leap accelerator... and vanished. He awoke to find himself not at microsoft Faceing new channlages that were not prevously known now with the help of his friends Fans   he is pushing to scribe a new chapter in his life, hopeing that the next leap will be the leap ..................... only the future may tell wher robert will go beyond his new adventure

posted by notuptome

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

McDonald — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:01:16 GMT

RobertScoble wrote:

Marc, the interview with you was one of my favorites! Hey, why can't we do another? Just won't be on Channel 9.

Sure, but will you ask who I am?

posted by McDonald

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

RobertScoble — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 22:10:55 GMT

Of course I will!

posted by RobertScoble

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

webmonkey — Sun, 09 Jul 2006 23:33:31 GMT

Good luck scoble, and thanks for the interesting vids always something good to watch on here.

posted by webmonkey

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

BeLikeWater — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 02:06:50 GMT

What a resemblance to think Mini-MS as BL, and Scobel as George Tenet. Now the enforcer is gone and the undercover is still undercover:)

On the other hand, I still think mini could be Scobel's alter-ego, at least they worked like a team...as good as any team could be. More intriguing is that as Scobel correctly pointed out we know he got paid for his blogging, it is very likely that Mini also get paid for blogging-LOL

posted by BeLikeWater

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

MV — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 12:42:08 GMT

I'm observing Channel9 since months now - and it is still a fascinating journey. Thanks for the great ideas, the dilligence and humor to make it happen and the patience to let it go.

I like the way you treated Microsoft - and I like the way, Microsoft treated you. I understand that you are sad. Just think for a moment, you would be only happy to leave MS - what would that say about your time at Microsoft?

All the best to you and your family

Matthias Vering
SAP - Germany

posted by MV

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Sagar_Rawal — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 14:56:09 GMT

Scoble, you have done a grand job @ C9. I hope the best in your future endeavors and hope you have a productive and fun time at your new job!

posted by Sagar_Rawal

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

i-Shine — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 20:36:14 GMT

Bye Scobleizer...

You've gathered quite a followership... even in locations you least expect (Lagos, Nigeria)...

I hate to see you go, but hey, you've gotta move on to greater things in life...

So long...

posted by i-Shine

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

zahadum — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:23:03 GMT

NOTE: c9 webforms dont seem to parse text very well: they dont recognize implicit para=CRLF nor do they recognize explicit html tags

...... annoying to submit ONE BIG BLOCK OF TEXT -- what's wrong with you guys: even your websites are broken!!! -------------- i'm new to mr.scoble's gig (i watched about 40 of the videos over the long weekend!). And as an avowed 'hostile' of microsoft, i must say that scoble forced me to have an open mind. So that's an accomplishment, i think! yes, some interviews (by him and some by others) were totally lame (because the guest had nothing to say); and some were a bit fawning (not asking the obvious questions). but i was just as often impressed as i was nonplussed: the new vista heap manager; avalon -finally put in perspective by wallent; the os/2|cairo back-story (Zbikowski was poignant and sometimes painfully honesty); even the WIN CE enabled fridge (a blatantly self-conscious stunt just to promote a tool) -- scoble me interested enough to go and look at the other interviews on c9. however, one of the most telling signs was in the exit interview: his son's comments: each time the question of what it was that captured the imagination, scoble's son was very clear about where the momentum is going: apple. I think it was great that his son was there to give his dad a reality-check! ---- the acorn does not fall from the tree (after all, that's been his dad's job at C9). but the fact that scoble (still) thinks that the reason for the ipod's success is 'fashion' (as opposed to function) suggests that he still doesn't "get it". What's wrong with microsoft is NOT that it has superior engineering products that are somehow under-marketed (LOL) - rather just the opposite! Microsoft has a has long sad history of shipping product that is mediocre or worse & then using hype (when not abusing its market-power!) to shamelessly shill terribly awful junk that is either 2nd-rate or else a poor derivative. The ipod (or any other well-designed product -- which is the broader point that i think scoble misses) is about a commitment to excellence; the exquisite beauty of seeing every intricate detail incorporated into a coherent, harmonious whole. That simply is not part of the microsoft gestalt (though it must be said to bill gate's credit: if at first he fails, he tries tries tries again - even if it takes 10 or 15 years to get it right. Almost no other company in the world is so unafraid of failure!) nonetheless, the fact that scoble has been out there -- showing how vista might represent the first credible attempt by microsoft top produce a serious OS (cairo & taligent died en route; nextstep survived to become os/x) -- has been a real treat. He let the guys speak for themselves (even if there were a few too many program managers & not enough architects & coders) ... and he did this without beating us over the head with the normal parade of lies (one part dissimulation, and two parts dissembling) that the microsoft PR machine (and its minions in the trade press) normally inflict upon us. that is a real accomplishment: to open up closed minds of people like us who thought that microsoft was a incorrigible reprobate; a corporate recidivist that had not learnt any lessons despite being convicted of cyber crimes in nearly every court around the world; that had neither atoned nor been properly punished for its atavistic behavior (eg: broken up + heavily fined for both the opportunity cost of all the innovation it prevented, as well as the external cost that all of its crashing/malware had inflicted on its customers). a job is like mr. scobble's is really hard to do: how to be an apologist (in the best sense of the word) without being a syncophant. When the next american president is thinking about a White House Press Secretary, robert scoble's name should make the short list! Defnding the undefendable is a tough gig. For people in this part of the audience -- from the skeptics to the outright hostiles -- scoble provided us with clubable entertainment, even if not always deep insight. Not quite fanboy but also not quite sage. That may sound like being damed with faint praise, but it's not. It's real appreciation for his sincerity & (perhaps most of all) for having a sense of humour. cheers: zahadum

posted by zahadum

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Charles — Mon, 10 Jul 2006 22:41:24 GMT

yman wrote:

One other thing, Charles should blog more! It would be nice to know his opinions on the world of tech

I may blog more, but I may not too
C

posted by Charles

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

JamesC — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 00:45:02 GMT

you look so sad robert! its been great to see your work over the past 2 years. thank you for bringing me inside info on what its like to work for ms - i've set my employer standards higher because of it. c9 has given me faith that even though my current job sucks there is someplace i can code and be happy. thanks again, best wishes on your future endeavors.

posted by JamesC

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

qwert231 — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:29:59 GMT

Nice interview, but the sounds was very quiet.

posted by qwert231

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

zhuo — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:55:37 GMT

RobertScoble wrote:

Man, you guys all act like you've gotten rid of me or I've died or something. Heheh.

Anyway, that question came out of my laziness: I never marked the tapes for who was on them.

So, I'd start each tape out with that question so that if someone found those tapes in 100 years they'd know exactly who was on them and what they did.

I hope Charles keeps doing that, for just that reason, by the way.

I discovered later that that is a good way to start a conversation on video since the viewer has no idea who they are seeing and why they are or aren't important to be listening to.

i must say i really enjoyed your tapes, best of luck!

but don't you worry about the tapes, i am sure software will get smart enough to figure out the context of a video soon enough.

posted by zhuo

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

philsbbs — Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:14:38 GMT

I could not believe it when I saw the post.

It will be a great shame to see Scbole leave, I wish him all the best in the future.

With him and soon Bill Gates leaving wonder what the future holds.

posted by philsbbs

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

mventour — Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:55:18 GMT

Bill G was the face of Microsoft for me until i discovered Channel 9...

then it became Scoble.

posted by mventour

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

Windmiller — Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:42:14 GMT

mventour wrote:

Bill G was the face of Microsoft for me until i discovered Channel 9...

then it became Scoble.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Tour Guide of MS. Great honest interview Charles!

posted by Windmiller

Re: Scoble: Exit Stage Left

anuproject — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:31:48 GMT

Hi scoble !
It's fun: I just left my company here in Germany at the same time and I also was sad because some dreams didn't come true during the time I was there. But new opportunities are still waiting - I'm sure of that.

Microsoft as an "ecosystem" was a black box for me until I watched the first 9er video of you ! The only I knew about MS is a new administration building of MS in the north of Munich, Germany and of course a bunch of software that accompanied me since the early 90ties: FoxPro, VB,VBA, Access and now the .NET Framework with C# and that stuff. My professional existence is built on MS products and their reliabilty to my customers.

But I never had an idea about the guys behind the scene at microsoft. So your videos are like a window in the MS world to me.

Your videos, especially your "exit" - video, has pointed out important things to me: At first MS do have employees that stand for their dreams and there - obviously - is an open culture to communicate about pretty cool - even non MS related - ideas - like Ipods. Second from here I now can associate excellent and productive products with faces of MS devs, pm's and so on.

The man behind the cam did express the fear that the image of MS that customers do have could be damaged but that is the direct opposite. Your videos give MS a human face to the customers and as far as I'm concerned the relationship to MS is tighter than before your videos.

Of course MS is looking for excellent people around the world but it doesn't matter whether they are wearing shorts in top management or which colour they do have or what background they do have.

Your videos beyond the MS related stuff give very interesting insights to me: Because I never was in the U.S. and the image I got over the years is built on US movies, soaps and so on. The dialogs in your videos are so real that I not also updated my knowledge about software but also how MS organized the worklife. Your walk over the campus to the interview with Steve Balmer show me the architecture of the building or the great view to large trees and excellent park surroundings. Greenly I meant the guys at MS are working in a cube farm but they are organized in individual office cells that are furnished in a very private way. I was really delighted about that !

So I wish you a big deal at your new job in Palo Alto !

Thanks a lot !
Alex
Munich, Germany

posted by anuproject