Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/249642_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 Scott Guthrie sits down with me to dig into and show off some of the features of Silverlight 2 Beta 1. Among other very useful features, there is now design surface support for Silverlight UI in both VS 2008 and Expression Blend! Scott builds a Silverlight app in VS and Expression Blend with a Silverlight button control named Charles Of course, it's not a Channel 9 interview without discussing why we are doing all of this!Enjoy!Low res file here. en Fri, 24 May 2013 07:57:26 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 07:57:26 GMT Rev9 Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
figuerres wrote:

ZippyV wrote:
Haven't seen the vid yet but have they talked about microphone/webcam support?


?? WTF ?? 

Uh how the heck could you do that and still be "cross platform" and "in a sandbox" ??

just as SL is not hardware accell for Video, to access a camera or a mic you need some driver / OS support that will be very different for each combo of OS / hardware ....

and for what benefit?

I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


also there are some security issues... if SL could use that hardware how would I know that some evil person had not sliped a "spy app" into my system ??

and if the SL CLR had the guts to do the hardware IO then how could anyone say for sure it would be 100% imposible to exploit it to do other system calls ?

sorry but I just see a lot of problems with doing that and keeping with the idea of SL as cross-platform and safe to deploy.



I agree with ZippyV. If Flash can do it, why not SL?? hmmm... I think we'll see it, just not till 3.0. Just guessing.

posted by LiquidSpy

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403415270000000 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:18:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403415270000000 LiquidSpy Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
YES the betas are out there .... Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile

posted by figuerres

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403421940000000 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:29:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403421940000000 figuerres Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 omg omg omg :O *overstimulated*

cant.. watch.. soon.. enough...

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403472310000000 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:53:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403472310000000 aL_ Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 Too...  much.... cool... stuff... not... enough... time...

I know excally what my first project for this will be Smiley

posted by PerfectPhase

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403597210000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:22:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403597210000000 PerfectPhase Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 posted by ZippyV

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403668760000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:21:16 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403668760000000 ZippyV Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 posted by CRPietschmann

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403680500000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:40:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403680500000000 CRPietschmann Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
It's great to see the production quality of Channel 9 videos over the last few weeks dramatically improve. Non-intrusive transitions and use of a decent screen capture program instead of silly "point camera from weird angle at screen" is a huge improvement.

Good stuff and well worth the time invested in watching it.

posted by irascian

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403714720000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:37:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403714720000000 irascian Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
CRPietschmann wrote:
Hmm... For some reason I feel like drinking a Pepsi...

Yeah, I wonder how much Pepsico paid for that product placement. Apple, on the other hand, got no love, hiding behind Scott's Macbook Pro's C9 decal. Wink

Great video! I'm excited to learn more about Silverlight 2, particularly the DLR, Python, and Ruby.

posted by JChung2006

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403790890000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:44:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633403790890000000 JChung2006 Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
Once a coder...

posted by Minh

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404041680000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:42:48 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404041680000000 Minh Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1

posted by kamii47

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404059210000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:12:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404059210000000 kamii47 Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 nice to see charles on camera too Big Smile

is there any word on a express version of vs2008 for silver light? or silverlight integration in visual c# (and others) express?

also, are there express versions of blend planned? i guess thats not really needed right now because the beta is free, but i ment further down the line Smiley

a bit off topic perhaps, any news on dates for the datagrid and other controls for standard wpf (as well as those tasy performance improvments)?

any news on wether that will be a service pack?


lots of questions and im sure you'guys arent allowed to awnser some of them but trying cant hurt can it? Wink awsome video and always, great to see scott Smiley great work guys Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404103150000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:25:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404103150000000 aL_ Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
ZippyV wrote:
Haven't seen the vid yet but have they talked about microphone/webcam support?


?? WTF ?? 

Uh how the heck could you do that and still be "cross platform" and "in a sandbox" ??

just as SL is not hardware accell for Video, to access a camera or a mic you need some driver / OS support that will be very different for each combo of OS / hardware ....

and for what benefit?

I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


also there are some security issues... if SL could use that hardware how would I know that some evil person had not sliped a "spy app" into my system ??

and if the SL CLR had the guts to do the hardware IO then how could anyone say for sure it would be 100% imposible to exploit it to do other system calls ?

sorry but I just see a lot of problems with doing that and keeping with the idea of SL as cross-platform and safe to deploy.

posted by figuerres

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404126720000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:04:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404126720000000 figuerres Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
figuerres wrote:
I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


I think people should be able to communicate with others without installing a separate app.

posted by ZippyV

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404445260000000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:55:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404445260000000 ZippyV Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
ZippyV wrote:

figuerres wrote:
I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


I think people should be able to communicate with others without installing a separate app.


do you get my point about the hardware / driver / os issues?

posted by figuerres

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404604310000000 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:20:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404604310000000 figuerres Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 figuerres If that is the case then it is really odd but in the following post it is mentioned that
The security model enforced by the System.Net.Sockets namespace in Silverlight 2 allows for a connection only back to the site or host of origin.

http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx

If any body also have any expalination then please provide it

posted by kamii47

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404848800000000 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:08:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404848800000000 kamii47 Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 Sounds and looks really cool. It seems like the Internet and the desktop (from any software pov) will merge very very smooth. And that is awesome, because you can think at the following scenario:

You will not have to worry about porting an app to the web from the desktop and vice-versa. I mean, any app will be able to run on any browser, on any platform, desktop and web, just using one or two of your favorite programming languages. That's really interesting!

I wonder how all this stuff can be packed in a 4.3 MB installer Smiley

posted by Yankee

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404892000000000 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 12:20:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404892000000000 Yankee Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 Love it Love it Love it. Thank you to everyone involved in making this a success. I've been watching channel 9 content since the beginning. Charles, you are the man. You're doing a fantastic job. Content like this is just priceless. Ok, I'm finished.

posted by cyberprunes

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404942040000000 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:43:24 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633404942040000000 cyberprunes Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 posted by Bas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633405286690000000 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:17:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633405286690000000 Bas Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
kamii47 wrote:
figuerres If that is the case then it is really odd but in the following post it is mentioned that
The security model enforced by the System.Net.Sockets namespace in Silverlight 2 allows for a connection only back to the site or host of origin.

http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx

If any body also have any expalination then please provide it


Not sure what your point is?

that link seems to not work, when I try to use it the server seems to be trying to do a redirect or something...

Edit:  finaly got to the info you link to.... same thing.

what is your point?
what is so odd?

one poster was asking for webcam and mic support in SL2.0

I said it was probably not going to happen for several reasons.

your link says that SL runs in a sandbox that limits what it can do.

this has already been said by MSFT ....

so what is your point again ?

posted by figuerres

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633405930300000000 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:10:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633405930300000000 figuerres Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1
We will continue to evolve what and how we do things, but we'll never lose the OldSchool9 vibe; just add new ones.

Keep on,
C

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633406130080000000 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:43:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Charles/Scott-Guthrie-Inside-Silverlight-2-Beta-1#c633406130080000000 Charles Re: Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1 Just awesome stuff...
channel 9 rocks...specially to charles...nice job man...
the blog series at scott's blog is also very very interesting...

posted by gaurav.net

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could you say anything about Silverlight and linux? are there any teams working on to make it happen? If not, is Microsoft helping the Mono people?

need to make some decisions, and any information on Microsoft's oficial position about Silverlight running on linux is welcome!

thanks,
pedro

posted by pedrot

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