Scott Guthrie: Inside Silverlight 2 Beta 1

figuerres wrote:



ZippyV wrote: Haven't seen the vid yet but have they talked about microphone/webcam support?

?? WTF ?? 

Uh how the heck could you do that and still be "cross platform" and "in a sandbox" ??

just as SL is not hardware accell for Video, to access a camera or a mic you need some driver / OS support that will be very different for each combo of OS / hardware ....

and for what benefit?

I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


also there are some security issues... if SL could use that hardware how would I know that some evil person had not sliped a "spy app" into my system ??

and if the SL CLR had the guts to do the hardware IO then how could anyone say for sure it would be 100% imposible to exploit it to do other system calls ?

sorry but I just see a lot of problems with doing that and keeping with the idea of SL as cross-platform and safe to deploy.

I agree with ZippyV. If Flash can do it, why not SL?? hmmm... I think we'll see it, just not till 3.0. Just guessing.

Wooo.... must watch this.... hoping the beta bits are now ready or will be soon!

YES the betas are out there ....

omg omg omg :O *overstimulated*

cant.. watch.. soon.. enough...

Too...  much.... cool... stuff... not... enough... time...

I know excally what my first project for this will be

Haven't seen the vid yet but have they talked about microphone/webcam support?

Hmm... For some reason I feel like drinking a Pepsi...

Really, really good video Charles. You should act as "the talent" more often - you have a natural ease about you that makes the interview really work.

It's great to see the production quality of Channel 9 videos over the last few weeks dramatically improve. Non-intrusive transitions and use of a decent screen capture program instead of silly "point camera from weird angle at screen" is a huge improvement.

Good stuff and well worth the time invested in watching it.

CRPietschmann wrote:

Hmm... For some reason I feel like drinking a Pepsi...

Yeah, I wonder how much Pepsico paid for that product placement. Apple, on the other hand, got no love, hiding behind Scott's Macbook Pro's C9 decal.

Great video! I'm excited to learn more about Silverlight 2, particularly the DLR, Python, and Ruby.

Scott doesn't like the tile "Vice President" doesn't he?

Once a coder...

Very Nice Interview.

really cool nice to see charles on camera too

is there any word on a express version of vs2008 for silver light? or silverlight integration in visual c# (and others) express?

also, are there express versions of blend planned? i guess thats not really needed right now because the beta is free, but i ment further down the line

a bit off topic perhaps, any news on dates for the datagrid and other controls for standard wpf (as well as those tasy performance improvments)?

any news on wether that will be a service pack?


lots of questions and im sure you'guys arent allowed to awnser some of them but trying cant hurt can it? awsome video and always, great to see scott great work guys

ZippyV wrote:

Haven't seen the vid yet but have they talked about microphone/webcam support?

?? WTF ?? 

Uh how the heck could you do that and still be "cross platform" and "in a sandbox" ??

just as SL is not hardware accell for Video, to access a camera or a mic you need some driver / OS support that will be very different for each combo of OS / hardware ....

and for what benefit?

I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.


also there are some security issues... if SL could use that hardware how would I know that some evil person had not sliped a "spy app" into my system ??

and if the SL CLR had the guts to do the hardware IO then how could anyone say for sure it would be 100% imposible to exploit it to do other system calls ?

sorry but I just see a lot of problems with doing that and keeping with the idea of SL as cross-platform and safe to deploy.

figuerres wrote:

I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.

I think people should be able to communicate with others without installing a separate app.

ZippyV wrote:



figuerres wrote: I would say that an app that needs that support should be a sperate app.

I think people should be able to communicate with others without installing a separate app.

do you get my point about the hardware / driver / os issues?

figuerres If that is the case then it is really odd but in the following post it is mentioned that
The security model enforced by the System.Net.Sockets namespace in Silverlight 2 allows for a connection only back to the site or host of origin.

http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx

If any body also have any expalination then please provide it

Sounds and looks really cool. It seems like the Internet and the desktop (from any software pov) will merge very very smooth. And that is awesome, because you can think at the following scenario:

You will not have to worry about porting an app to the web from the desktop and vice-versa. I mean, any app will be able to run on any browser, on any platform, desktop and web, just using one or two of your favorite programming languages. That's really interesting!

I wonder how all this stuff can be packed in a 4.3 MB installer

I just feel like spreading some Channel9 love. I LOVE Channel 9.
Love it Love it Love it. Thank you to everyone involved in making this a success. I've been watching channel 9 content since the beginning. Charles, you are the man. You're doing a fantastic job. Content like this is just priceless. Ok, I'm finished.

Great video! As much as I like the impromptu 'walk into a guy's office and see what he/she is doing' videos, for these informative ones this style works much better. Good to see the quality still improving.

kamii47 wrote:

figuerres If that is the case then it is really odd but in the following post it is mentioned that
The security model enforced by the System.Net.Sockets namespace in Silverlight 2 allows for a connection only back to the site or host of origin.

http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx">http://dotnetslackers.com/Silverlight/re-90376_Silverlight_2_and_Sockets.aspx

If any body also have any expalination then please provide it

Not sure what your point is?

that link seems to not work, when I try to use it the server seems to be trying to do a redirect or something...

Edit:  finaly got to the info you link to.... same thing.

what is your point?
what is so odd?

one poster was asking for webcam and mic support in SL2.0

I said it was probably not going to happen for several reasons.

your link says that SL runs in a sandbox that limits what it can do.

this has already been said by MSFT ....

so what is your point again ?

Scott,

could you say anything about Silverlight and linux? are there any teams working on to make it happen? If not, is Microsoft helping the Mono people?

need to make some decisions, and any information on Microsoft's oficial position about Silverlight running on linux is welcome!

thanks,
pedro