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Windows Server 2003 R2 and Beyond

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Shobana Balakrishnan, a program manager on the Windows Longhorn Server team, takes us through the server roadmap and demonstrates Windows Server 2003 R2. Think you know everything about Windows Server? You might be surprised by the innovations this team has shipped and is planning on shipping in Longhorn Server.

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  • Wayne TaylorKryptos Backup People!

    This video is really intresting for me (only 20 mins in), I like what I hear about DFS, would be intresting to find out if this would work with SBS 2003 R2....?

    The video quaity doesn't seem that good, I'll download and have a look... shame you couldn't get closer to the screen.

    EDIT:

    Could use DFS to provide remote backup....for my clients? Cool Doesn't look like you can, Enterprise SKU Sad

    She should of gone into services and stopped the Windows firewall service. Wink

    Good news about the PST's syncing!

    Great, more like these I and on Vista Server!

  • Andre Da CostaAndre Da Costa Created with PhotoDraw 2000 V2
    I expected to see Patrick E & S, Jabez, Zack and Andre commenting already. Smiley
  • LostInSpacebarAdityaG OMG VISTA FTW LOLZ!!1one
    Interesting video.. just thought I'd nitpick

    "So it's CFS... it stands for C.F.S..." Tongue Out

    More videos on the server would be cool. It's not talked about too much amidst VS2005 and SQL server etc. Either way.. Go Channel9!

    Cheers,
    Aditya

  • SBS 2003 R2 does not have DFS Replication.  Just curious - what is your replication scenario with SBS that you are think of?

    One clarification, you only need the Enterprise SKU on one side of a connection if you wnat cross-file RDC i.e., the ability to do RDC across files with different file names/path.  So yes you can use DFS (in collection scenario) to back up remote servers (not clients tho because we are only on R2 server and of course on Vista for totally different scenarios - namely sync'ing between my PCs in a workgroup/domain).

    Thanks for your f/b especially stopping the firewall service...note in Vista post the Dec CTP you will not have to do that!
  • C.F.S. aka Clusters, File Services and Storage.  We are the team developing features in all these areas.  We have several file services features such as DFS, FSRM (File server resource manager for quotas and file screening) as well as storage features such as VDS in R2.
  • Did I smell my name somewhere here? Andre is that you? Tongue Out
  • Jonathan MerriweatherCyonix Me
    Hey Robert, I've noticed that you ask questions then talk for ages without letting the person answer your question. You can see the frustration on the persons face lol.
  • Wayne TaylorKryptos Backup People!
    shobanab wrote:
    SBS 2003 R2 does not have DFS Replication.  Just curious - what is your replication scenario with SBS that you are think of?

    One clarification, you only need the Enterprise SKU on one side of a connection if you wnat cross-file RDC i.e., the ability to do RDC across files with different file names/path.  So yes you can use DFS (in collection scenario) to back up remote servers (not clients tho because we are only on R2 server and of course on Vista for totally different scenarios - namely sync'ing between my PCs in a workgroup/domain).

    Thanks for your f/b especially stopping the firewall service...note in Vista post the Dec CTP you will not have to do that!


    Hi Shobanab,

    I have a client who owns a couple of business which are not related to each other. I have installed SBS 2003 into both sites, he has asked about the possibility of replicating the data between two the sites.

    I thought there was a new release of SBS due, which includes Windows Server 2003 R2. See here.

    The other thought I had, is if I had a Win2k3 R2 box in our offices, the couldn't I set up each of my clients servers to use DFS to backup to our servers here, thus off site backup with a trusted supplier.

    I was thinking out loud, most of my clients are in the SME market.

    Thanks for posting back, it's so great having away with the people you develop the goods. Big Smile Wink

    EDIT: TYPO's
  • scobleizerscobleizer I'm the video guy
    Cyonix wrote:
    Hey Robert, I've noticed that you ask questions then talk for ages without letting the person answer your question. You can see the frustration on the persons face lol.


    If you measure the amount of time I'm on tape and the person I'm pointing the camera is on tape, it probably is about 1/100th of the time. Sometimes I get carried away. Sorry. But this is a conversation, not a PR-release.
  • ZeoZeo Channel 9 :)

    Why is this video not a WM_IN tagged video?????Perplexed

    It's a stellar video!!!

  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    Zeo wrote:

    Why is this video not a WM_IN tagged video?????

    It's a stellar video!!!



    Because it doesn't address, even implicitly, the issues we are focusing on for WM_IN. That said, yeah, this is a great video and the super smart person being interviewed is a woman.

    WM_IN is a show that explores, explicitly, the role of women at Microsoft and the industry. Certainly, we focus on what an WM_IN interviewee does, but we ask the same questions, for the most part, of each of the women.

    C
  • Thanks for explaining your scenarios.  There is an SBS 2003 R2 release but it does not have DFS Replication.  DFS Replication is only available on Windows Server2003 R2 and future NAS SKUs.

    Re the scenario of replicating from client servers to the center -yes that is a scenario targeted but few things to remember:

    (1) The servers need to be part of an Active directory domain
    (2) Servers can be in different domains but must be in the same forest
  • Will current DFS / FRS users have a seamless upgrade to R2?  Or will we be required to reconfigure to take advantage of DFSR?

    Also I don't think Scoble blabbed too long. Smiley  His interviewee just had a lot to say.

  • Jonathan MerriweatherCyonix Me
    scobleizer wrote:
    Cyonix wrote: Hey Robert, I've noticed that you ask questions then talk for ages without letting the person answer your question. You can see the frustration on the persons face lol.


    If you measure the amount of time I'm on tape and the person I'm pointing the camera is on tape, it probably is about 1/100th of the time. Sometimes I get carried away. Sorry. But this is a conversation, not a PR-release.


    Fair enough
  • If you are using FRS then we will be making available a script that will migrate your FRS configuration to DFSR.  It is a simple VB script that translates the config to commands for DFSRadmin. See http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/WebCastEventDetails.aspx?EventID=1032287371&EventCategory=5&culture=en-US&CountryCode=US
  • Hi shobanab-

    Can the new DFSR be used to replicate between servers in the same site?

    Thank you.
  • How do you define site? Yes it can replicate betweens servers in the same or in different Active directory sites
  • shobanab wrote:
    How do you define site? Yes it can replicate betweens servers in the same or in different Active directory sites


    I'm defining it as a single domain.  If I understand correctly, we could use DFSR to create backups or mirrors of our primary shares on other server(s) in our office.  We've been wanting to add some redundancy to our network and this looks like a great solution.

    I really appreciate the fact that I can speak directly with you and others at Microsoft.  Getting sort of "inside" information from the people that actually develop these products is extremely helpful.
  • SimoSimo With me it's a full-time job.

    Excellent video. I was totaly unaware of R2's beefed-up file replication.

    I have a couple of expensive Double-Take licenses performing this role for me at the moment (copying our file data to the DR site).

    I now have a viable alternative to consider next time the infrastructure is altered.

  • writhe wrote:
    shobanab wrote: How do you define site? Yes it can replicate betweens servers in the same or in different Active directory sites


    I'm defining it as a single domain.  If I understand correctly, we could use DFSR to create backups or mirrors of our primary shares on other server(s) in our office.  We've been wanting to add some redundancy to our network and this looks like a great solution.

    I really appreciate the fact that I can speak directly with you and others at Microsoft.  Getting sort of "inside" information from the people that actually develop these products is extremely helpful.


    Yes your understanding is correct.  DFSR is suited for the scenario as long as you are local admin on both servers.  For more information on DFS Replication pl. see Technet http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/Library/1aa249c0-40f3-4974-b67f-e650b602415e1033.mspx.  Pl. feel free to also post on our blogsites or newsgroups...http://blogs.technet.com/filecab and microsoft.public.windows.server.dfs_frs
  • Simo wrote:

    Excellent video. I was totaly unaware of R2's beefed-up file replication.

    I have a couple of expensive Double-Take licenses performing this role for me at the moment (copying our file data to the DR site).

    I now have a viable alternative to consider next time the infrastructure is altered.



    That's the idea! We would love to hear back on how it compares with DoubleTake for your data scenarios
  • I am not if its Windows 2003 R2 issue or my new hard disk; but I dont get active login window after standby...

    http://www.msvistablog.net/news.php?item.140

  • After reading a little about DFS, it seems like this is exactly what one of my customers need. However, I'm somewhat confused.

    The scenario today, is one SBS 2003 server and one terminal server. We are soon bying a better terminal server which then will be server 2003 r2.

    I'm thinking of using the "old" terminal server (one year old) in a branch office so that all files would be available through LAN (for autocad users), and eliminating the need for a backup streamer in the branch office.

    Is this a possible scenario? Is it a recommended scenario? Or do I need Server 2003 r2 on all servers?
  • gunders wrote:
    After reading a little about DFS, it seems like this is exactly what one of my customers need. However, I'm somewhat confused.

    The scenario today, is one SBS 2003 server and one terminal server. We are soon bying a better terminal server which then will be server 2003 r2.

    I'm thinking of using the "old" terminal server (one year old) in a branch office so that all files would be available through LAN (for autocad users), and eliminating the need for a backup streamer in the branch office.

    Is this a possible scenario? Is it a recommended scenario? Or do I need Server 2003 r2 on all servers?


    You will need Server 2003 R2 on all servers participating in replication.  The new replicator ships only in Server 2003 R2 and STorage Server 2003 R2.
  • Kryptos wrote:

    Good news about the PST's syncing!


    About the PSTs...(maybe it was mentioned)..do they sync at the differential level or file level?
  • Hello shobanab and all the other guys Smiley

    I would like to ask you how do you view my scenario for a customer's network that I need to deploy...

    I have 2 sites (US, EU) with a Lan on each.
    I will create a VPN connection using appliances between them.

    US site has an SBS 2003 R2 with ISA that I will use it for creating VPN with roaming users. This server is the main one and has currently an Domain Controler working properly. There is another one that has Windows 2003 Enterpr. edition that also has a domain controller but I will probably remove it as I will be using the SBS for this.

    EU site has a NAS (Iomega storage device) running Windows Storage server. The plan is to buy another server for this site to serve as the domain controller for the users of the site to login there.

    The thing is that I want to set up DFS replication between the NAS in EU and the Windows 2003 server in US.

    Can I do this with the current servers? how can I set the domain/domains in such a way that it is possible taking into account the restrictions of the SBS server? What OS should I choose for the main server in the EU site?

    I know that the SBS has resriction regarding the Domain Controller and that is why i am confused. Can you please give me your insight on this matter?



    Thank you very much!
    Kostas

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