Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/399153_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh Back at MIX, the Live Platform Services team announced a new standard APP-based protocol for accessing your Live data, and at Web 2.0 the Live Mesh team has announced plans to extend that API with synchronization-ready access to data, devices, application and activity feeds.  Ori Amiga shows a number of demos showing the native Mesh feeds, WPF applications using Mesh, a Silverlight client that supports working on and offline, a custom Facebook application that syncs Facebook photos with Live Mesh, a Mac client that sends photos to Live Mesh and even LINQ queries over Mesh objects. - Low res version - MP4 version For more Live Mesh coverage: - Watch the demo of the Live Mesh application on Channel 10  - Watch an interview with Abolade Gbadegesin on Live Mesh Architecture - Meet the Live Mesh team - Read the transcript and grab the audio from Jon Udell's perspective series. en Wed, 22 May 2013 21:47:12 GMT Wed, 22 May 2013 21:47:12 GMT Rev9 Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh My head is spinning..this very far reaching and very cool.  I would imagine the network infrastructure you are setting up to enable this is a monster.

For me, it will be interesting to see if this could be leveraged for digital rights management.  Something like associating licenses to a users Mesh instead of a specific device.

posted by USArcher

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446706780000000 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:51:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446706780000000 USArcher Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
How do you launch the apps? Will there be Start Menu integration or will they be listed within some Live Mesh specific location (or do we just sync the shorcuts/favorites)?

posted by DCMonkey

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446722570000000 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:17:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446722570000000 DCMonkey Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
How would the mesh handle concurrency?  If two users are working on something and one saves right before the other, what happens?  Or is this not meant to be a multi-user environment.Tongue Out

posted by ericrempel

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446748710000000 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:01:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446748710000000 ericrempel Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
ericrempel wrote:
Very cool!

How would the mesh handle concurrency?  If two users are working on something and one saves right before the other, what happens?  Or is this not meant to be a multi-user environment.Tongue Out
Stay tuned for a Going Deep on FeedSync, the sync engine that powers the Mesh. C

posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446802740000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:31:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446802740000000 Charles Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh The mesh synchronization infrastructure essentially detects conflicts at the DataEntry level – so in the case of file synchronization, this happens at the file file/metadata level.  While the system is able to resolve conflicts “automatically” if needed, in general it leaves the conflict resolution logic to the application layer.  For example, using the scenario you describe below where “two users are working on something and one saves right before the other” – the mesh user experience (e.g., Live Folders) will prompt the user with information about the two conflicting files and allow the user to select how they would like to resolve the conflict.  This approach enables applications which are able to handle conflicts at different levels to apply the appropriate logic for their users.  In other scenarios where multiple users may be editing different DataEntries within the same Feed in the system – the system will automatically apply merge semantics for the changes.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446807170000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:38:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446807170000000 oriamiga Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh We are currently actively designing the “application model” for mesh applications (and are thinking about the various types and related app experiences, some of which you mention below) – we will have more information to share about the specifics on this topic later this year.

posted by oriamiga

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446812770000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:47:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446812770000000 oriamiga Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh  I really like the idea of this platform.  This will enable of a ton of new apps and bring the barriers down.  Right off the bat, I need BCM and Office Accounting in my Circle.  I need all my Electric plugs in my circle.  I need my car in my circle.  Need my tv and music equipment in the circle.  Maybe even my dog.

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446817260000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:55:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633446817260000000 staceyw Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh Please name me a couple of reasons why I need this.... stuff? As real life developer I don't understand "a coolness". Just one more semi-baked framework to make developer's life worse...

posted by BlackTiger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447150440000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:10:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447150440000000 BlackTiger Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
The last 20 mins of demo time was really amazing, I think this opens up tonnes of opportunities as a developer but as an end-user I can think of even more real world get it going today right now kinda scenarious. Move over skydrive and get Mesh out there as quickly as possible.

Kevin

posted by KevinB

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447450120000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:30:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447450120000000 KevinB Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
BlackTiger wrote:
Please name me a couple of reasons why I need this.... stuff? As real life developer I don't understand "a coolness". Just one more semi-baked framework to make developer's life worse...


Your kidding.  If you can't think of at least 100 ways you would have used this stuff as a developer....

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447516120000000 Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:20:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447516120000000 staceyw Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
staceyw wrote:
Right off the bat, I need BCM and Office Accounting in my Circle.  I need all my Electric plugs in my circle.  I need my car in my circle.  Need my tv and music equipment in the circle.  Maybe even my dog.


Interestingly enough.... (at about 9:50 in the video)

posted by Bas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447660300000000 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:20:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633447660300000000 Bas Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh

Also a cool way to define allowed vendors on a credit card - sort like a VLAN.  So you could an employee a company CCd that works only at HomeDepot and the local gas station.  Other transactions could be approved with a confimed message to owner in ~real time.  Also my QB or OA at work would be updated *with the digital receipt of items.  Save me ton of time holding receipts and entering data.

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633448215580000000 Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:45:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633448215580000000 staceyw Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh this video really opened up my eyes to the true power of Mesh. Thanks on such a useful video!

Now all I'm waiting for is the SDK and access to Mesh Cool

posted by LiquidBoy

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449554950000000 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:58:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449554950000000 LiquidBoy Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh means.

Absolutely awesome. Somebody get us on the CTP and provide us with an SDK!

posted by Bas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449650490000000 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 07:37:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449650490000000 Bas Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh The tech preview program is currently full so am a bit disappointed Sad
Although I got registered and am in the queue, hopefully would get a chance to try the SDK soon. .

posted by jomit

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449806340000000 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:57:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449806340000000 jomit Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh Saw all the reviews/video's saturday and can't stop thinking about the awesome possibilities. Great! Can't wait to get my hands on it and testdrive it.

Not being able to attend a conference and being in the Netherlands is bound to have me drewl a few months but still...

Curiously though how you integrate Mesh with a server enviroment though...

Jochem.

posted by Jochem Bokkers

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449826990000000 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:31:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449826990000000 Jochem Bokkers Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh instead of RDP for applications how about a softgrid type of deployment

posted by tonyr

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449971720000000 Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:32:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633449971720000000 tonyr Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh So can you use WebDav on a regular folder as a way to set-up new files in the cloud?

 

What's the URL to use?

posted by joeyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633450900810000000 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:21:21 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633450900810000000 joeyw Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
joeyw wrote:


So can you use WebDav on a regular folder as a way to set-up new files in the cloud?

 

What's the URL to use?



Would you still need webdav if you can just copy files into a local Mesh folder?

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633452447270000000 Thu, 01 May 2008 13:18:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633452447270000000 staceyw Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
Lacking access to the SDK yet, I tought I'd at least start mucking with the POX data to do some internal demos for our existing applications we have in development...

Smiley

posted by kregger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633452496790000000 Thu, 01 May 2008 14:41:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633452496790000000 kregger Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
i am one of the oldest Groove partners and now an MVP for Groove

saw this coming some time ago when i attended the Strong Angel III meet at san diego last year but never realised just how far SSE would unfold

Ray has been dreaming of this awhile i realise now. Promised to disrupt the world of It way back in 2001 - started with Groove which is still the best online / offline collaboration tool out there

Mesh is going to deliver on that promise fully.

ashok hingorani

posted by ashok.hingorani

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633455335830000000 Sun, 04 May 2008 21:33:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633455335830000000 ashok.hingorani Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh
Awesome video!!! I thought Silverlight 2 was going to be the best thing this year, but you have made me have a rethink - Silverlight 2 with Mesh (specifically services against the MOE) is now the best thing to happen this year.

When the SDK is made available (do you know eta?) will you be providing source code for your demos - I'm very interested in Silverlight 2 and LINQ with Mesh.

Do you have a Blog / Forum?

Thanks
Richie

posted by rcustance

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633457066090000000 Tue, 06 May 2008 21:36:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633457066090000000 rcustance Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh I saw this interview in "Featured" area in the top right area of your web site. Then I clicked somewhere else and "Featured" changed to something else.

So, I wanted to find it. I looked around, did refresh couple of times hoping it will show up in Featured again. But no luck.

Then I clicked on Search button and typed "programming mesh" without quotes... It returned a bunch of irrelevant results. Then I used quotes, no luck again. In fact there was no difference, the result set was the same.

Now, I went to Google, clicked on Advanced Search and put "programming mesh" and typed to search on msdn.com website...

So what is your guess? A link to this interview was the 2nd one, and it took me about 20-30 seconds to find this post through Google.

And this is true for most of the documentation from Microsoft. I use google to search for help files on msdn, and have better luck in doing so then using live search. Sad I don't like Google's predetory behavior and their policies at large, but hey, do I have a choice? 

 MS live search is not the worst though, try finding something on IBM's web site, it is like in the jungle Sad Although their (IBM's) other software is very good.

posted by ivan_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633462024920000000 Mon, 12 May 2008 15:21:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633462024920000000 ivan_ Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/mwherman2000/archive/2004/02/14/7232.aspx to understand how Mesh can be used to build something like Parallelspace Communities.

Michael Herman
Parallelspace Corporation

p.s. What is the replacement for Desktop.ini in a Mesh-managed folder?  How can I customize the icon for a folder at a replica and have that customization flow throughout a mesh?  In the CTP, Desktop.ini is not replicated and believe it's format also varies across OSes.

posted by mwherman2000

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633492554770000000 Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:24:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633492554770000000 mwherman2000 Re: Ori Amiga: Programming the Mesh posted by dathurajp

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633633680060000000 Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:33:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Dan/Ori-Amiga-Programming-the-Mesh#c633633680060000000 dathurajp