Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/470994_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine At the All Things Digital Conference, Steve Ballmer just announced our new search engine called Bing. Bing is actually MORE than a search engine- we are referring to it as a "decision engine" as its goal is to help users make more informed decisions by collating and formatting information for you that is relevant to your search. It's exceptionally useful in areas like travel, shopping, weather and movie listings. Beyond there's there are a ton of new fun features and time saving capabilities. Watch as Stefan Weitz takes us on a test drive. Read what the critics are saying... en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:18:09 GMT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 20:18:09 GMT Rev9 Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine What does Bing mean?

Bing Is Not Google.

posted by Zeo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792270650000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 20:51:05 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792270650000000 Zeo Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine bind seems pretty cool Smiley its annoying that we cant use it yet though Smiley the only thing that make or break a search engine is how good the results are Smiley

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looks good Smiley the results page [ui wise] looks way to much like google though :/ the colors and general layout is veeery similar.... the first page is niceliy syled but the wite background and blue text looks to.. nineties? i dunno.. still interesting though Smiley i wonder just how dynamic those page integration features and categories are..  cant wait to try it out  Smiley

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the shopping part is pretty impressing actually Smiley is all that indexing automatic?

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http://www.tgdaily.com/html_tmp/content-view-42643-140.html cool Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792281260000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:08:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792281260000000 aL_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Some more criteria

  • how relevant are search results
  • how usable is the search interface
  • how attractive is the search interface
  • how organic, adaptive and context-sensitive is the search interface (when, where, who)
  • how well does the search engine support a particular domain (Wolfram|Alpha vs Google)
  • how well does the search engine support language grammars to deeply understand questions
  • how well does the search engine support exploration
  • how well does the search engine integrate with other services (SkyDrive, Thumbtack?)
  • how well does the search engine integrate with third parties

All of these are important.

If Bing has an attractive, usable, fresh search interface with very relevant results and direct support for many knowledge domains and websites, well then it could pose a challenge to Google. The anti-thesis of the "one logo, one input box and a few text links" search engine interface.

I'd like the search engine, browser and cloud storage to work closer together and Bing looks like a little step in that direction. Next up I expect some of the entity extraction experiments on live labs to pay off so the search engine knows more about our interests than just a set of links and questions or keywords.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792293580000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:29:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792293580000000 exoteric Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Looks like Google? The whole layout of the main page is dramatically different from Google.
That the text results use green and blue is not really a shocker or a dramatic similarity.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792295640000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:32:44 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792295640000000 exoteric Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine How much of this is going to be available outside the US? Since I haven't heard otherwise, I'll have to assume that the whole review gathering, consumer info finding thing will only work for US stores and for US visitors, leaving the rest of the world with a lame traditional search engine once again. Where are Live's image backgrounds, for instance?

posted by Bas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792296320000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:33:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792296320000000 Bas Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine yes the main page is diffrent.. but not the results list Smiley when i look at the result list i could be on either google or bing imo.. it also looks far worse that the main page for example.. the first thing bing critics are going to say is that bing is a google rip of i know that not true, but thats what theyäll say. you shouldnt add fuel to their fire Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792299360000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:38:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792299360000000 aL_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine I've seen screens of the UK site having the image background, which we don't currently have (and I use the US version to get it), so hopefully they'll more aggressively roll this stuff out.

posted by daSmirnov

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792303770000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:46:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792303770000000 daSmirnov Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine If people judge the search engine based on the look of the results list, then... But I'll grant you, yes, there's some similarity there.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792304460000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:47:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792304460000000 exoteric Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Agreed. It's immensely annoying for non US visitors to be cut off. That too, is a decision input - when some features or design is crippled for outside visitors, so there should also be some focus on helping localize the service - even though that is probably a pretty substantial amount of work. I see a little bit of that starting to appear in Live Home.

posted by exoteric

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792306990000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:51:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792306990000000 exoteric Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine No, it's not, and that's good because Bing Is Next Generation Tongue Out

posted by seabreezer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792310990000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:58:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792310990000000 seabreezer Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine i think its farily safe to assume that people will spend alot of time on the results list... Wink some similarity? they might as well copy pasted the css Tongue Out the average user will think bing just went out and pulled the results from google.. and that a darn shame

but even disredarding that, i dont think the results page fits the visual style of bing.. it looks out of place somehow.. hopefully they'll update it until rtm Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792311440000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 21:59:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792311440000000 aL_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Stefan, send me that "I bing " t-shirt you have Tongue Out

posted by intelman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792313270000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 22:02:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792313270000000 intelman Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Let me see what I can do for you intelman.... Smiley

posted by Laura10

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792313810000000 Fri, 29 May 2009 22:03:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792313810000000 Laura10 Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine What does Bing mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc IMHO.

(I can't take credit for that though, someone else noticed it first.)

posted by Daniel Keymer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792421980000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 01:03:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792421980000000 Daniel Keymer Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Bing is the sound of found Smiley

posted by Dan

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792443720000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 01:39:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792443720000000 Dan Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine really awesome i cant wait to try it myself

 

but is this feature just apply for us

as the nearst movie

or u know like where to buy or tikets options or any other stuff or it is apply for anypart in the world

 

another thing i like the streaming but if u an manage it to make it smaller and can be uploading while watching as in youtube we see the part the already uploaded so no hang up happening

 

i mean make it like youtube or simple to put any video in youtube after you put it here

 

anyway i am very intersting

posted by athman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792808060000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 11:46:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792808060000000 athman Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine As far as searching for information on products (like the Nikon example) is concerned, all Bing has to do to be better than Google there is to separate out review sites from retailers. Because if you search for almost any consumer product on Google by model number, all you get is page after page of SEO'd garbage. 

posted by rhm

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792819650000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 12:06:05 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792819650000000 rhm Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine I wasn't expecting much from bing, but actually I think this makes google look a little dated, still need to give it a go and see how it works but if the results are good I'll use it by default, and if not I'll still be interested in it for its composition of data (ie traffic, shopping etc).

posted by stevo_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792824530000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 12:14:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792824530000000 stevo_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine The one thing Microsoft doesn't quite seem to get: simplicity.

A search page also needs to:

  • Be fast
  • Get out of the way
  • Not look like something from MySpace
I think they got the last one right with Bing (over MSN's home page... that site just sucks).  The jury is out on the first two.
Google has had all three right since day 1.  Except for iGoogle... I don't like that either... it takes just a hair longer to load, and on a slow computer or connection, that violates #1 and #2.

posted by bondsbw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792890960000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 14:04:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792890960000000 bondsbw Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Enthusiasm!

posted by Scarabus

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792899920000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 14:19:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792899920000000 Scarabus Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine The T-Shirt looks really cool. Is there any left ? Smiley Btw. is the Ad campaign going to be international or just US ?

posted by tobleroneisbest

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792938920000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 15:24:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792938920000000 tobleroneisbest Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Bing is not Crosby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vPfOjAw5Z0

posted by raymond

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792948190000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 15:40:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792948190000000 raymond Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Actuelly, I saw some product vidio about Bing earlier, and there was said that MS has put a lot of effort to make it fast. One example of this effort can be seen at live.com, where the pict loads after the rest of the page so it doesn't slow down the Live search entry point. I thing that Stefan was talking about this somwhere (maybe Stefam is, not sure though).

posted by tobleroneisbest

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792949570000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 15:42:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633792949570000000 tobleroneisbest Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Here are some thoughts:

I'd love to ditch Google. I've tried Yahoo, Live Search, Ask, and all of them fail for one reason: the search results aren't as good.

All Bing's cool features are nothing if the search results aren't up to snuff.

One other thought. Bing is kind of a funny name. When I was a little kid, bing was what we called our..ahhhm. Bing Is a Name for Genitals. Smiley

posted by Judah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793003820000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 17:13:02 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793003820000000 Judah Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Only in your part of the universe Wink

posted by stevo_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793053880000000 Sat, 30 May 2009 18:36:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793053880000000 stevo_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Had a brief look (admittedly) at this and one criticism spring to mind ' too complicated'. It isn't better than Google in terms of general internet search though it is better than Windows Live. Also, Google might be too much of a habit to beat for most people.  

posted by DianaLe

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793426990000000 Sun, 31 May 2009 04:58:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793426990000000 DianaLe Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Had a brief look at this and first criticism comes to mind 'too complicated'. It doesn't perform better than Google at general internet searches but it is better than Windows Live. Also, hard to break the Google habit. 

posted by DianaLe

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793431370000000 Sun, 31 May 2009 05:05:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793431370000000 DianaLe Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine The question is, what if I'm looking for an Uninterruptible Power Supply?

posted by Cupiditas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793720110000000 Sun, 31 May 2009 13:06:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793720110000000 Cupiditas Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Is there going to be an "explorer part" for programming?

Also, is the SkyDrive content going to be included in the results?

posted by ggponti

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793726350000000 Sun, 31 May 2009 13:17:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793726350000000 ggponti Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine How do you know? its not even out yet.. and it isn't too complicated.. people know how to use things more complex than google- and they don't cry about it.. hell, even the average website you goto after google is vastly more complex to navigate than bing is.. personally I think its pretty well crafted.. but I really don't like the whole thing with it starting as a box in the middle with a random background image.. just seems really weird.

posted by stevo_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793842880000000 Sun, 31 May 2009 16:31:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633793842880000000 stevo_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine where's the wiki feature in bing?  How can I add a result to the search like I can on Google?

posted by spottedmah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633794654510000000 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:04:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633794654510000000 spottedmah Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine What would Bing Crosby say?

Pretty nice site and actually seems more responsive for the videos.

Looks like Live to me.

posted by senorhoagie

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633794828660000000 Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:54:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633794828660000000 senorhoagie Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine Simple example, I was looking how to programmaticaly select a Bar on a Silverlight chart. Guess what I typed

"Silverlight chart programmatically" in BING  and browsed through 4 pages of results and didn't find anything. (I trying be more and then less specific but it didn't help).

I typed the same thing in Google and the most relevant result was at the top of the first page.

I don't like Google (as a company and their policies) but so far Google search has been better.

posted by ivan_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633795537300000000 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:35:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633795537300000000 ivan_ Re: Bing: Test Drive Microsofts new search engine This was actually a great video. I'm thinking about sharing it with first year computer students. Now after watching this video I realize that you can't think of Bing as a search engine LIKE Google. If you use Bing in the same way you use Google then you will not be impressed. But if you can use it to leverage the things that it does, it is pretty impressive. It will be hard to make that bit of a shift in people's ideas.

BTW: I want to see more videos with her in it! WinkDevil

posted by Rick Henderson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633833664980000000 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:41:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/LauraFoy/Bing-Test-Drive-Microsofts-new-search-engine#c633833664980000000 Rick Henderson