Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/536903_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design While on campus for the MVP Summit in February, I had a chance to visit Henry Sowizral over in building 41. Henry Sowizral is a Principal Architect in Microsoft Expression, and he and his team did something really cool: they converted an existing C/C++/MFC application to have a WPF front-end, while still leveraging all that existing code. If you have legacy code and are considering porting the UI to .NET, pick up some pointers from Henry. Once you've finished, check out Henry's presentation deck on how the team converted the Expression Design UI to WPF. See more WPF at Pete's site and blog http://10rem.net Follow Pete on twitter at @pete_brown en Sun, 19 May 2013 23:40:44 GMT Sun, 19 May 2013 23:40:44 GMT Rev9 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design Awesome video and very timely. I'm currently involved in trying to drag a 16 year old MFC application kicking and screaming into the WPF present and future.

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634041618640000000 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:11:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634041618640000000 tomkirbygreen Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design can you please post a sample showing how to change a C++ control to WPF ?

posted by freefly

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042778270000000 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:23:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042778270000000 freefly Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design Any specific scenario? A MFC UI element with a bunch of existing logic, switched over to a WPF front end?

posted by Psychlist1972

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042834660000000 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:57:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042834660000000 Psychlist1972 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design Yes ... and moreover, best practices to follow. You can put it in the comments or a readme.txt file along the sample. Can you please talk or write about some ownerdrawn controls switching over scenario?  Thanks

posted by freefly

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042916090000000 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:13:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042916090000000 freefly Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design Was it slow as molasses after the conversion with all of the WPF bloat, sort of like Visual Studio 2010?

Nice to see you're running Windows XP in the background, though. I found that highly amusing in a post about converting legacy code.

posted by Corrector2

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042933310000000 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:42:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634042933310000000 Corrector2 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design XP was in a VM if I recall correctly. He also had Windows 7 on his main machines. There's no rule against keeping machines for testing or verification. Note it was running "in the background" Smiley

 

The slowdowns in visual studio had nothing to do with WPF. Check out the Visual Studio blog for more information. While WPF was the most visible change, a ton more was changed under the covers.

 

Happily, with the RC, VS2010 is doing quite well now, with lots of new and useful features and perf on par with the previous version.

 

 

 

posted by Psychlist1972

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043182560000000 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:37:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043182560000000 Psychlist1972 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design if you are planning to post a sample and the best practice notes... could please notify me or tell me where I can expect it to show up !!!

posted by freefly

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043274660000000 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:11:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043274660000000 freefly Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design If you grep for HwndSource and in particular the "AddHook" tweak you'll get a long way with your MFC / WPF mash-ups. There are some pain points about using RenderTargetBitmap and then converting the resulting bitmap to a MFC compatible 24 bit RBG bitmap form that you can say put into a MFC ribbon - but it's all very doable. If you're not using Dev 10, i.e. you're using Visual Studio 2008 then I'd recommend doing your work in a 32 bit environment, you're going to be stepping a lot between C++, C++/CLI and C# and you will want mixed-mode debugging. I couldn't imagine doing this stuff in 64 bit before the advent of mixed-mode.

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043300650000000 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:54:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634043300650000000 tomkirbygreen Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design If you want your business application to resemble an ATM machine, you will use WPF. If you want it to look professional (i.e., like office), you will use MFC and a good toolkit such as Codejock for ribbons and views.

posted by Corrector2

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634044567690000000 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:06:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634044567690000000 Corrector2 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design @Connector2

 

Trolling aside, have you see the Book of WPF? You'll see in there a number of excellent examples of WPF applications that look nothing like an Automated Teller Machine (Machine) Smiley

 

Besides, most ATM software was C++ on OS/2 last time I looked. That was years ago, though.

 

MFC is definitely an excellent technology. Just like WPF, though, it's not the answer to everything.

 

Pete

posted by Psychlist1972

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634044652030000000 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:26:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634044652030000000 Psychlist1972 Re: Henry Sowizral on Refacing C++ with WPF in Expression Design OK, trolling aside, I looked at the "Book of WPF." First of all, regarding said book, whoever decided to make it an 18"x9" PDF file needs to go back to design school. It was a royal pain to have to navigate it horizontally and vertically in Adobe Acrobat viewer. I did go through the entire book, though. Having done that, I basically came to the following conclusions:

 

- For video playback apps and other "player-like" apps, exclusively, WPF with a custom GUI layout that presented the application to the user in a manner resembling a hardware player, made some amount of sense.

- From the rest of the examples, the few implementations that looked semi-professional and not like GUI implemented by a College student on LSD, all used an Office 2007-like ribbon. These would have been better served, at least performance wise, by using MFC and Codejock's Toolkit Pro.

 

Now, granted, I don't know how many of the apps were written in C++ and how many were written in C#. Certainly, my statements above only apply to those that were written in native C+, for which MFC was an option. Even for the C# apps, though, outside of the various players, a ribbon interface would have been much better than the hacked attempts at GUI that I saw.

 

MS spent a small fortune on the evolution of its Windows (and Office) GUI, first using menus and toolbars and now ribbons. Most of the apps I saw spat in the face of this evolutionary development saying, "We can do reinvent the (GUI) wheel and do a better job." As software engineers, we all know the most probable outcome of someone reinventing the wheel in the software development world.

 

posted by Corrector2

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634047010750000000 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:57:55 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Psychlist1972/Henry-Sowizral-on-Refacing-C-with-WPF-in-Expression-Design#c634047010750000000 Corrector2