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Alex Hinrichs and Jeff Woolsey: Announcing Windows Server 2008 RC0

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Alex Hinrichs runs the Windows Server ship room (you’ve met him before on C9). Jeff Woolsey is a senior program manager on the Virtualization team (you’ve met him before, too). Today, we announce the release of Windows Server 2008 RC0. RC0? What does that mean, exactly? Well, Alex sure knows… There are many new innovations in Windows Server 2008 not the least of which is our new built-in virtualization system, Hypervisor. Jeff explains… Then there’s server core, a stripped down UI-less version of the OS for those who prefer to run only the bare minimum subset of features to serve whatever their serving… Tune in to find out more about our next server OS and meet some of the folks that spend all of their time helping to make it our best ever. If you listen carefully, you’ll hear some very interesting news… Enjoy.

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  • No download links?  Not on connect or MSDN..
  • I'll ask the obvious:  why not just call this RC1?
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    JChung2006 wrote:
    I'll ask the obvious:  why not just call this RC1?


    Did you watch the video?
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    roys wrote:
    No download links?  Not on connect or MSDN..


    Here
  • Charles wrote:
    
    JChung2006 wrote:
    I'll ask the obvious:  why not just call this RC1?


    Did you watch the video?

    I did.

    Software people tend to get silly when it comes to versioning things:  alpha, beta, CTP, RC0, version 0.041a-1.  You think that you're communicating useful semantic information with these obtuse, cryptic designations when a simple version 1, 2, 3, etc. would suffice.

    So again, why not just call this RC1?  Release Candidate means something to me.  1 means something to me.  0 means nothing to me in terms of versioning except perhaps a peculiar reluctance to commit to something being an actual release candidate, which is pretty much the opposite of what was said in the video.
  • Maybe it is because they did not code it in VB. Big Smile Big Smile Big Smile
  • Are the Standard and Enterprise downloads of the 32 bit version identical code? Is the same true for the Standard and Enterprise downloads of the 64 bit version?

    No, I haven't seen the video yet.

  • ZippyVZippyV Fired Up
    I've looked around for this hypervisor thing but I can't find it anywhere. Help doesn't explain much except for stating the minimum requirements.
  • ZippyV wrote:
    I've looked around for this hypervisor thing but I can't find it anywhere. Help doesn't explain much except for stating the minimum requirements.


    Zippy, the Hypervisor is one of the enabling technologies for Windows Server Virtualization. The hypervisor is a technology that takes direct advantage of the new Intel-VT and AMD-V enabled chips. This allows you to have hardware-based virtualization in the CPU as the Hypervisor controls the entrance/exit of virtual machines directly in the CPU. This has many advantages over just performance.
  • And a clarification is necessary. Charles towards the end of the video states that TxF (Transactional NTFS) was included in Windows Server 2003; it was not. Transactional NTFS is a feature that is strictly new and exclusive to Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008.

    And yes, we are working with several ISVs that are using TxF. Many backup vendors are also becoming TxF-aware. It is important to realize that we are dogfooding TxF internally as well. Windows Update uses TxF when updating files, and System Restore uses it as well.
  • CharlesCharles Welcome Change
    JasonOlson wrote:
    And a clarification is necessary. Charles towards the end of the video states that TxF (Transactional NTFS) was included in Windows Server 2003; it was not. Transactional NTFS is a feature that is strictly new and exclusive to Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008.



    I was under the impresssion that TxF was included in R2. My bad...
    C
  • At install time, the cd-key determines the edition that is installed - ENT or STD.  The media is the same.  This is true for x64 and x86.

  • I know our pre-release milestone naming is a little inconsistent and at times appears haphazard.  We're working to standardize the naming and make it clear to testers that "Beta 1" means "this" while "RC1" means "that".

    Regarding this specific milestone naming, there are a couple of reasons we named it RC0. 
    1. Tradition.  
    I know that the answer "because we've done it this way before" is lame, but it's the truth.  We've named many first-RCs as "RC0" in the past, so we rolled with that name this time.
    2. We're dorks.
    ...so we frequently start counting things starting with 0 instead of 1.  We do this everyday in the 100's of lists we manage.  In fact, our prioritizations even start with "Priority 0".

    -Alex

  • AlexHinrichs wrote:
    

    I know our pre-release milestone naming is a little inconsistent and at times appears haphazard.  We're working to standardize the naming and make it clear to testers that "Beta 1" means "this" while "RC1" means "that".

    Regarding this specific milestone naming, there are a couple of reasons we named it RC0. 
    1. Tradition.  
    I know that the answer "because we've done it this way before" is lame, but it's the truth.  We've named many first-RCs as "RC0" in the past, so we rolled with that name this time.
    2. We're dorks.
    ...so we frequently start counting things starting with 0 instead of 1.  We do this everyday in the 100's of lists we manage.  In fact, our prioritizations even start with "Priority 0".

    -Alex



    Makes sense to me.


    Fiddler on the roof - Tradition Wink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw

    Cool
  • ZippyVZippyV Fired Up
    JasonOlson wrote:
    
    ZippyV wrote:
    I've looked around for this hypervisor thing but I can't find it anywhere. Help doesn't explain much except for stating the minimum requirements.


    Zippy, the Hypervisor is one of the enabling technologies for Windows Server Virtualization. The hypervisor is a technology that takes direct advantage of the new Intel-VT and AMD-V enabled chips. This allows you to have hardware-based virtualization in the CPU as the Hypervisor controls the entrance/exit of virtual machines directly in the CPU. This has many advantages over just performance.


    Yeah yeah, stop teasing me. How do I install it?
  • ZippyV, check out this post from Scott Hanselman: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToInstallingWindowsVirtualizationServicesHypervisorOnWindowsServer2008RC0.aspx
  • I have a few questions regarding Server 2008 in general.

    He mentions a Desktop Experience Pack (or something like that).  Is this available with the RC0 now? 

    Edit: Never mind.  Found this link that explains how enable it.

    Are drivers that are certified for Vista compatible with Server 2008? 
  • Downloaded the full trial yesterday. I can't wait to test it!

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