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Jesse Lewin on knowing Steve Jobs, working at Apple, and posing with Bono

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Things have changed a lot around Channel 9. As you may have noticed, some people have come and gone over the past year, and the team is very different from what it used to be.

Some would say it's much better. Others would say it's gone downhill, but those people are stupid, and they'll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

Along with changes to 9, we've also seen the rise of 10. We still aren't entirely sure what it is, but we've got some seriously talented people working over there.

One of those people is Jesse Lewin.

I've had many hallway conversations with the guy since starting here. We've talked shop, clothing, music - the normal stuff.

After several months, he started to tell me more and more about his life pre-Microsoft. I was surprised to learn that:

1. His father worked on the Mac "back in the day"

2. When he was a kid, he got to hang out with Steve Jobs with some regularity

3. He worked for Apple (always interesting to talk to people who've worked for Apple in some way)

4. He's met a bunch of uber famous people

5. He likes my shoes

He also worked for Engadget. The guy has quite the history, which is all the more surprising given how young he is.

Anyway, I love the man, and wanted to get him up on 9. While he isn't a dev, he is a geek, and he's my kind of geek. When you can go from chatting about Prada to Powerbooks, you're probably going to get along with me.

Hope you like the interview. It was certainly fun for me, and I plan on doing more interviews with the rest of the team. It's time all you people met the current generation of JeffSand evangelists...

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  • Christian Liensbergerlittleguru <3 Seattle
    Hehe... Cool interview guys Smiley
  • Jonathan MerriweatherCyonix Me
    Yeah cool video.
  • Rory wrote:
    This is going to be kind of an unusual Channel 9 interview...


    But all interviews with Rory in them are unusual. However, since Rory is in many Channel 9 videos, unusual interviews have become the norm. That makes unusual Channel 9 interviews not unusual at all.

    Tongue Out
  • MassifMassif aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.
    No, no, no! nvidia's "quality assurance" team will be the first against the wall when the revolution comes. (Or at least, they'll be the first lot I put up against the wall when the revolution comes.)

    Or maybe I'll execute unethical scientists first... Nah, the nvidia lot will be easier to find.
  • Well... The interview guy basically sounds to me similar to this:

    "So I'm like you know, shucks, whatever, like, you know? Like, yea, and he's like wow, and you know?"

    It's quite annoying, as if listening to a 13 year old girl on a caffeine overdose.
  • I think you lost the adult audience with this interviewing guy, but I'm sure kids 2-6 will enjoy his antics. It's great you're thinking about the children as well.

    OMG he met Steve Jobs! He met Steve Jobs! He was his best buddy, OMG OMG!!!

    Right...
  • I had to quit watching after a couple of minutes - just couldn't deal with the kid messing up a good interviview. This actually reminds me of the "wow! a blue car!" quote from the Simpsons. The constant amazement about every little thing didn't seem genuine at all.
  • MassifMassif aim stupidly high, expect to fail often.
    Well, you can't please everyone. I found it interesting, although (obviously) not related in any way to programming.

    I didn't check what the tags were; is there a tag for "not technical" I suppose you could have used the old "characters" tag.
  • Jonathan MerriweatherCyonix Me

    hahaha all the grumpy old men have come out of hiding.

    Give the guy a break; he was trying to be modest while telling us something amazing about his childhood.

  • It was "like OMG" more the inteviwer...
  • RoryRory Free Tibet While Supplies Last

    crappy wrote:
    Well... The interview guy basically sounds to me similar to this:

    "So I'm like you know, shucks, whatever, like, you know? Like, yea, and he's like wow, and you know?"

    It's quite annoying, as if listening to a 13 year old girl on a caffeine overdose.


    You know what's really cool?

    It's that the above comment was left by the same person as the one below:

    buggy123 wrote:
    I think you lost the adult audience with this interviewing guy, but I'm sure kids 2-6 will enjoy his antics. It's great you're thinking about the children as well.

    OMG he met Steve Jobs! He met Steve Jobs! He was his best buddy, OMG OMG!!!

    Right...



    The IP address for both was 83.228.56.[last number removed by Rory to protect this asshat].

    If you're going to create multiple accounts with which to attack us, the least you could do is come in from different addresses.

    Anyway, he didn't just meet Steve Jobs - he grew up around him. If I seemed surprised and excited, it's because I was surprised and excited.

    Not that you wouldn't agree - you were just attacking to attack. Just wanted to make sure my feelings on the matter were clear.

    Also, I didn't join Channel 9 to make you happy. I did it because it's a fun job. If it turns out that we're losing our audience because of these interviews, I'll step down without argument.

    However, we've been posting record traffic for the past several months straight, so I'm not too worried Smiley

  • RoryRory Free Tibet While Supplies Last
    Massif wrote:
    Well, you can't please everyone. I found it interesting, although (obviously) not related in any way to programming.


    Exactly, yo.

    If all we ever did around here was post interviews with coders, it'd be little more than a watered-down tutorial site.

    The point here is to get the human stories behind tech.

    I love Jesse - he's a funny, intelligent guy. The conversations are great. His stories are great.

    He has a lot of fantastic non-geek goodness about him, too, but I thought we did a good job of keeping it geek related.

    It was also fun to talk about Apple. I dig Apple. I work for Microsoft, but I use tech from all over the place. I like to be able to chat about it.

    So... thanks for not being a puddinghead.
  • Fairly painful to watch.... There's genuine humility, and then there's ....
    Other than this particular vid I really enjoy your light hearted approach to interviewing.
    I work in IT but am not a dev and therefore a lot of the content goes over my head by a few feet, none the less there is always something to learn and it's always a pleasure to listen to smart people talk with passion on their subject. Your approach to the interviews adds an extra dimension and balance.
    Keep up the good work Rory, your efforts are appreciated.
  • Chris PietschmannCRPietschma​nn Chris Pietschmann
    Cool interview! I look forward to more interviews with the team.

    One thing I would like to know is how did Jesse end up at Microsoft?
  • RoryRory Free Tibet While Supplies Last
    CRPietschmann wrote:
    Cool interview! I look forward to more interviews with the team.

    One thing I would like to know is how did Jesse end up at Microsoft?


    Jesse has yet to share with me the story of how he wound up here. There's been so much other stuff to talk about that we haven't gotten to it yet.

    It's a good question, though, given his very non-MS background.

    That's probably part of it - I think we go for people with varied backgrounds in the evangelism department. Kind of hard to talk about MS in relation to the competition if you don't know what the competition is.

    He's a smart guy. We just had a good hour long discussion/argument about MS/Apple stuff - particularly in relation to Microsoft's efforts around reaching difficult audiences. He has a lot of good ideas. Some of the stuff just wouldn't fly here, but that's a Microsoft issue and not a Jesse Lewin issue. It'd be nice if we had more like him - then some of those ideas of his might actually get implemented.
  • Blah, blah, blah.

    Troll, troll, troll.

    Blah, blah, blah.

  • Wow.  Apparently honest feedback is not allowed on this site, and is replaced with 'troll, troll, troll'.

    This was NOT a troll.  For crying out loud.  It was an honest opinion.

    You are only confirming a juvenile nature when you petulantly delete criticism.

    If you are a professional, you should be able to take criticism.

    It frankly amazes me, that you treat your viewers like this.  It's also not a good way to treat people who might potentially be customers / partners (which I am).

    If you think this is an anonymous troll.  Think again.  I'm fully willing to put contact details to this posting (not publicly obviously).

  • RoryRory Free Tibet While Supplies Last
    pspidey wrote:
    Wow.  Apparently honest feedback is not allowed on this site, and is replaced with 'troll, troll, troll'.


    You were just whining. There's enough whining in this thread from other people. You didn't add anything. Maybe you didn't bother to look, but your sentiments had already been expressed repeatedly by one person.

    Didn't need any more crap like that.

    This was NOT a troll.  For crying out loud.  It was an honest opinion.

    pspidey wrote:
    You are only confirming a juvenile nature when you petulantly delete criticism.


    I'm totally emotionally immature. I know it.

    I am not, for example, anywhere near sophisticated enough to be able to use a word like "petulantly" in a sentence.

    pspidey wrote:
    If you are a professional, you should be able to take criticism.


    Take a hike, yo. What you left wasn't criticism - it was just garbage. It was another very negative comments, and, as I've already said, it added nothing to the discussion.

    Criticism is welcome - I'm always interested in learning what I can to get better at this job, but if someone like you comes along and just complains without suggesting a solution (you were really vague), then I'm naturally going to get pissed.

    "It frankly amazes me, that you treat your viewers like this.  It's also not a good way to treat people who might potentially be customers / partners (which I am)."

    I've been in customer facing jobs for years now, and one thing I've learned is that there's a huge difference between someone insulting me and someone providing me with useful criticism.

    I'm a human being - what "frankly amazes me" is the huge number of customers who think that they can insult us without repurcussions.

    Yeah, it might get me fired one day, but I'll quit before I stop being myself. Partner, customer, whatever - that "the customer is always right" thing is a bunch of bull. I'm not your punching bag. If you treat me with disrespect, then I'll treat you in kind.

    I think that's more than fair.

    [quote user="pspidey"]If you think this is an anonymous troll.  Think again.  I'm fully willing to put contact details to this posting (not publicly obviously).[quote user="pspidey"]

    I believe you. I just don't care.

    Nobody talks to or about me like that. I've been on the receiving end of enough crap that I no longer have any tolerance for it.

    If you want to provide some useful feedback that isn't phrased in an insulting way, I'm happy to hear it.

    Otherwise, don't bother.
  • tewisslertewissler Me... Rom...  Good...

    Rory- good interview!

    I think it is very interesting to see and hear what people, especially those with backgrounds as varied as Jesse's, are doing at Microsoft...  makes me feel like I may have a shot after all someday.

    I may be in the minority, but I for one would like to see more videos on some of the others on the teams we know - whom come to Microsoft with these mixed and sometimes odd backgrounds.

  • O.k., if you want some more detail to the criticism, fair enough.

    I thought you interrupted far too often.  Breaking up the flow of the interview.  When watching an interview, I prefer to be able to hear the interviewee, not the interviewer.

    In addition, the interruptions were (to me) unfunny side comments that didn't add to the interview, and were frankly annoying.

    Now, on the other hand, you could have stated in the first place that you didn't think the comment added anything or wasn't 'positive' criticism.  I don't believe the solution in situations like that, is just to automatically accuse someone of trolling.

    If you do get numerous postings which express similar sentiments, maybe there's a reason.  I'd want to know why.

  • I'm the asshat. I didn't create accounts especially as some sort of conspiration against you Rory, those are bugmenot.com accounts.

    The topic on the interview was interesting, and what this guy had to say WAS interesting, just tone down on the remarks and seemingly drug-induced reactions and it'll be all good Tongue Out

    Also add the fact I had to register to leave a comment was also annoying, and add bugmenot in the mix, and my tendency to push things around in most inappropriate of fashions, and there we go: I posted Whole Two Comments. It's lame, but I mean: big deal.

    It's obvious I didn't care about the IP, but I was curious if someone with access to the logs will go and point it out... Perplexed



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