Comment Feed for Channel 9 - MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/249324_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello This short video is the first of a four part series in which I sat down with Fabrice Fonck and Molly Bostic to talk about the MSDN DevWiki project. As usual, I walked in thinking I already had a good grasp on the subject, but quickly found out that things were much more complex than I ever would have thought. For example, do you have any idea how many user interface elements there are in Visual Studio? How many words there are in the documentation? I had a figure in my head - just a wild guess based on what seemed realistic to me. I was off by several decimal points. Like many other web devs, I've done a lot of internationalization work, but nothing like this. That same complexity is the reason it was decided to kick off some wikis for MSDN. One for general documentation (look for "Community Content" mixed in with the normal stuff), and the other for internationalizaion (Portuguese). The task itself is amazing, and that doesn't even account for all the planning around infrastructure. It's hard enough documenting a large product - now imagine doing it in a bunch of different languages. This video is the introduction to the topic, and the next three drill down into specifics. If you feel like you have a little too much on your plate at work, then watch this series. You'll feel much better Also, if you're working on something as big (or bigger), say something about it in the comments. ...... The Series: - Video #1: Saying Hello - Video #2: How and Why - Video #3: A Huge Responsibility - Video #4 (last): Internationalization en Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:45:29 GMT Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:45:29 GMT Rev9 Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello

Rory wrote:
So what am I here about...


Video stopped at 6:24 with Rory trying to say something, looks like we missed something. Is this really the end of the interview or error in video editing?

We want happy ending Sad

posted by RoyalSchrubber

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117517770000000 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:42:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117517770000000 RoyalSchrubber Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello
RoyalSchrubber wrote:

Rory wrote:So what am I here about...


Video stopped at 6:24 with Rory trying to say something, looks like we missed something. Is this really the end of the interview or error in video editing?

We want happy ending


This short video is the first of a four part series in which I sat down with Fabrice Fonck and Molly Bostic to talk about the MSDN DevWiki project.

Media Length: 00:06:25

posted by abkrino

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117538800000000 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:18:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117538800000000 abkrino Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello
abkrino wrote:

RoyalSchrubber wrote: 
Rory wrote: So what am I here about...


Video stopped at 6:24 with Rory trying to say something, looks like we missed something. Is this really the end of the interview or error in video editing?

We want happy ending


This short video is the first of a four part series in which I sat down with Fabrice Fonck and Molly Bostic to talk about the MSDN DevWiki project.

Media Length: 00:06:25


Yup - that's right.

When I edited it, I thought I had cut off that last part. My guess is that the work area of the clip was smaller than the size of the clip itself, so I accidentally left in about a second from the next video in the series.

It won't happen again (now that I know what to look for) Smiley

posted by Rory

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117543190000000 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:25:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117543190000000 Rory Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello I usually download shows and today I decided to watch it online and I found out that there is no Volume Control in the player Expressionless Probably you guys should include that.

One more question, what technology do you guys use to stream the videos? When I right click on the player it says save as jpeg. I was thinking it might be wmv or flash. Smiley

Btw looking forward for the whole interview.

posted by anand.t

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117584710000000 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:34:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117584710000000 anand.t Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello
anand.t wrote:


I usually download shows and today I decided to watch it online and I found out that there is no Volume Control in the player Probably you guys should include that.

One more question, what technology do you guys use to stream the videos? When I right click on the player it says save as jpeg. I was thinking it might be wmv or flash.

Btw looking forward for the whole interview.



I also like to download and watch the shows. Big Smile

I guess it's kinda trend or option that can be taken by video contents publisher NOT to include volume control in player panel. Smiley You would also see the player w/o volume control on Channel10 (on10.net) site. Maybe it's giving a watcher a default/current sound (volume) setting of pc, disallowing any change of setting thru the player. Expressionless

The image we see on the page when we open it and when we try to save using right-click would be a palyerPreviewImage to represent the specific video content in overall, I guess. Smiley Oh, these guys use mms (mms://) streaming for sure with wmv file inside, along with activex control and ole object stuff for player, I guess. Smiley (All of my guess coming from page source Big Smile)

BTW, also looking forward to the rest of interviews. ^^

posted by rickchoi

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117652330000000 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 01:27:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117652330000000 rickchoi Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello
rickchoi wrote:

anand.t wrote:

I usually download shows and today I decided to watch it online and I found out that there is no Volume Control in the player Probably you guys should include that.

One more question, what technology do you guys use to stream the videos? When I right click on the player it says save as jpeg. I was thinking it might be wmv or flash.

Btw looking forward for the whole interview.


I also like to download and watch the shows.

I guess it's kinda trend or option that can be taken by video contents publisher NOT to include volume control in player panel. You would also see the player w/o volume control on Channel10 (on10.net) site. Maybe it's giving a watcher a default/current sound (volume) setting of pc, disallowing any change of setting thru the player.

The image we see on the page when we open it and when we try to save using right-click would be a palyerPreviewImage to represent the specific video content in overall, I guess. Oh, these guys use mms (mms://) streaming for sure with wmv file inside, along with activex control and ole object stuff for player, I guess. (All of my guess coming from page source )

BTW, also looking forward to the rest of interviews. ^^


You shall all rejoice when they roll v4? I heard a WPF/E embedded player is in the works.

On a side note, I enjoy what I saw of the video (I speak french fluently), you rarely see that aspect of a product. Plus whodathunkit, 1 million!

posted by papavb

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117715140000000 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 03:11:54 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117715140000000 papavb Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello Doing this short movies im not a big fan of tbh.

Doing parts is fine, BUT this short clips doesnt work i think. No disrespect intended.

posted by Chadk

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117985090000000 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 10:41:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633117985090000000 Chadk Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello I know we've been asking for shorter movies, but I'm thinking more in the range of 15 minutes. Now we have an introduction to something that isn't there. Tongue Out

Looks promising for the follow-up, though.

posted by Bas

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633118027780000000 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:52:58 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633118027780000000 Bas Re: MSDN Wiki Projects - #1 - Saying Hello
rickchoi wrote:

anand.t wrote: 

I usually download shows and today I decided to watch it online and I found out that there is no Volume Control in the player Probably you guys should include that.

One more question, what technology do you guys use to stream the videos? When I right click on the player it says save as jpeg. I was thinking it might be wmv or flash.

Btw looking forward for the whole interview.


I also like to download and watch the shows.

I guess it's kinda trend or option that can be taken by video contents publisher NOT to include volume control in player panel. You would also see the player w/o volume control on Channel10 (on10.net) site. Maybe it's giving a watcher a default/current sound (volume) setting of pc, disallowing any change of setting thru the player.

The image we see on the page when we open it and when we try to save using right-click would be a palyerPreviewImage to represent the specific video content in overall, I guess. Oh, these guys use mms (mms://) streaming for sure with wmv file inside, along with activex control and ole object stuff for player, I guess. (All of my guess coming from page source )

BTW, also looking forward to the rest of interviews. ^^


looks like some real hardwork. But I wonder why they shoudl do this. Probably wanna make it OS and browser independent. Probably I should try if the online player will work if no mms support is available

Btw ya, I also wanted to point one more thing, having 4 parts each 6 mins long is kinda boring. Probably you should have 2 * 20 instead.      

posted by anand.t

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633118183910000000 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:13:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Rory/MSDN-Wiki-Projects-1-Saying-Hello#c633118183910000000 anand.t