Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/38220_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II In this segment Herb takes us on a tour of a small part of the Visual C++ team. In there you'll meet Jonathan Caves. He's a compiler developer on the VC++ team and he likes coffee. Starbucks coffee. Most of our applications, and Windows itself, are compiled with the VC++ team's amazing compiler. We talked a bit about the trends in the industry and how compilers are changing to react. In the hall we meet Chuck Mitchell, a senior architect on the VC++ team. He kindly stops to chat with us about Phoenix which is a development framework for the next generation of compilers. en Sat, 25 May 2013 12:00:48 GMT Sat, 25 May 2013 12:00:48 GMT Rev9 Re: Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II Which ones?

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RDK: Research Development Kit. A variant of an SDK for use by academic and industry researchers.

BBT: An binary analysis and transformation tool done at MSR, built on top of Vulcan

Vulcan: a binary analysis and transformation toolkit done by MSR (now CSE)
 
MSR: Microsoft Research

CSE: Center for Software Excellence (for a bit more on CSE, Vulcan and BBT see http://www.microsoft.com/windows/cse/bit.mspx)


JIT: Just In Time compiler, used by the CLR to transform MSIL into native code.

CLR: Common Language Runtime -- the runtime environment that hosts .Net.

MSIL: MicroSoft Intermediate Language -- the bytecode intermediate language used by .Net.

UTC: Universal Tuple Compiler -- our name for the current command line compiler backend.

Prefast: a compiler-hosted defect analysis tool initially done by MSR that is now part of the Whidbey C/C++ compiler.

posted by AndyA

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posted by Harish

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--William

posted by staceyw

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Harish wrote:

Did you get a chance to talk/film with Stan Lippman also?



No.

posted by Charles

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Charles wrote:
Harish wrote:

Did you get a chance to talk/film with Stan Lippman also?


No.


Any plans to?

posted by Rossj

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632433752800000000 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 12:14:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632433752800000000 Rossj Re: Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II I gained a lot from watching both parts of this series and reading Herb's article "The Free Lunch Is Over: A Fundamental Turn Toward Concurrency in Software" at http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm. Herb has a way of getting us really fired up.

ZDNet (at http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9593_22-5563796.html?tag=nl.e539) reports that “James Gosling, CTO of Sun's Developer Products group and the father of the Java programming language, has called Microsoft's decision to support C and C++ in the common language runtime in .Net one of the "biggest and most offensive mistakes that they could have made" in his speech to developers at an event in Sydney earlier this week.” The article goes on to say that “Microsoft developer evangelist Charles Sterling didn't entirely disagree with Gosling's comments, but he sought to clarify the issue with .NET's security.”

I would like to hear what Herb has to say on the issues raised. If he already has, I would appreciate a link so I can understand the issues more clearly and avoid making mistakes.

I find myself spending a lot more time at Chanel 9 lately and I also vote for having transcripts of the segments. Since I have a JD rather than a CS degree, my learning has to go through sort of a translation process. I would like to know which books Herb would recommend to those of us without the CS background.

posted by Robert Banghart

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632433872540000000 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:34:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632433872540000000 Robert Banghart Re: Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II
  • Do other programmers get that shipment award too, or why does Jonathan Caves only get it?
  • When will the general public see something from that Phoenix compiler? The next Visual Studio after 2005?

    • posted by ZippyV

    ]]>     http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632434140290000000 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 23:00:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632434140290000000 ZippyV     Re: Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II
    ZippyV wrote:
    • Do other programmers get that shipment award too, or why does Jonathan Caves only get it?


    Every employee who is on a product team that ships something significant receives a ship-it award, generally, but not always.

    posted by Charles

    ]]>     http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632434427230000000 Tue, 08 Feb 2005 06:58:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/TheChannel9Team/Herb-Sutter-the-Future-of-Visual-C-Part-II#c632434427230000000 Charles     Re: Herb Sutter, the Future of Visual C++, Part II
    I seem to remember that Charles mentioned a new set of videos called "Think Tankin' which would feature Herb Sutter. 

    Any ideas when we can expect to see these videos?

    Harish


    posted by Harish__

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