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Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Analise — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:08:46 GMT

I'm downloading the wmv file and it says 1,46GB is this correct ?!

posted by Analise

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Charles — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:10:43 GMT

Analise wrote:

I'm downloading the wmv file and it says 1,46GB is this correct ?!

Mama mia! I hope not.

C

posted by Charles

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Arran — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:41:51 GMT

says the same for me.

posted by Arran

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

scobleizer — Tue, 03 May 2005 08:48:59 GMT

Oh, yikes.

Charles, looks like we uploaded the raw video, not the MBR one.

posted by scobleizer

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

dreamz_infinet — Tue, 03 May 2005 10:28:46 GMT

So, should we wait for a compressed version?

posted by dreamz_infinet

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

figuerres — Tue, 03 May 2005 11:58:58 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Oh, yikes.

Charles, looks like we uploaded the raw video, not the MBR one.

did you mean "VBR" as in Variable Bit Rate or if not what is an "MBR" ?? if I may ask??

posted by figuerres

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

scobleizer — Tue, 03 May 2005 12:18:54 GMT

Yeah, sorry.

MBR is multiple bit rate video.

The one here is probably a 1.5 gbps video. The ones that we usually put up here are 300kbps.

posted by scobleizer

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

androidi — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:22:55 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Oh, yikes.

Charles, looks like we uploaded the raw video, not the MBR one.

Wow thats great! I'm going to dl it and try make it H.264 to see if it can beat the WMV quality at the 300 kbps rate.

I watched this video from the 291 kbps stream and 20 first minutes was pretty horrible as you didn't use the tripod.. It was pretty hard to see anything on the screen. Perhaps the 1.5 GB is better in this respect too as you can also read the text on the screen.

And regarding the XML tools.. Lot of great stuff and I like to see the intellisense capabilities coming more and more to XML world.

posted by androidi

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Kryptos — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:31:01 GMT

Why not use a screen capturing utility when doing the videos and then have an interview video and a demo video, that way people who just want to watch them demo (assuming there is one) can and people who want to watch the interview and or demo can.....

posted by Kryptos

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

androidi — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:53:38 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Yeah, sorry.

MBR is multiple bit rate video.

The one here is probably a 1.5 gbps video. The ones that we usually put up here are 300kbps.

You also uploaded another big video.

kenlevy_2005_whidbey_beta2_xml_tools.wmv	1534412
msntv.wmv	1266034

edit: Scoble I kind of understand the trouble MS has spreading gigabyte sized videos. The trouble is cause Akamai uses the DNS to give people the source of the download. And if the first one you get is not the best, you are stuck with it cause Windows or even your router may cache it.

I had to switch DNS servers from nslookup to get a hold of a fast akamai download mirror address. The default I was given was like 10 KB/s. Now with few minutes of work finding better source for the huge video and I am getting it 400 KB/s.

posted by androidi

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

androidi — Tue, 03 May 2005 13:54:33 GMT

Kryptos wrote:

Why not use a screen capturing utility when doing the videos and then have an interview video and a demo video, that way people who just want to watch them demo (assuming there is one) can and people who want to watch the interview and or demo can.....

They do that for MSDNTV and you see how often there is MSDNTV demos. Maybe once a month. Of course they could spend time doing some kind of one click deploy that would install the capturing and send the captured stuff over network to scobles machine. But what about capturing audio in sync to the screen capture? You'd have to plug a proper quality mic to the computer. With front audio ports, perhaps, but I doubt everyone at MS has such case or laptop.

And so on. Certainly possible but I guess it would require that Scoble had more time and more enthuasism towards optimal video/audio quality.

posted by androidi

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

erik_ — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:13:42 GMT

Whoh, great stuff.

I must say file size is a bit big, bug the video looks great fullscreen =) I can even read the onscreen letters good now, ghehe

posted by erik_

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Harlequin — Tue, 03 May 2005 14:48:15 GMT

I'll be the first one to talk about the Xml features of VS2005, and not the video quality or how the tripod wasn't mounted properly

It was my littlest guy's 5th birthday party, so I only watched 75% of the video, but I was very impressed with the new Xml editors in VS2005. I can't wait for the Xml/Xsd intellisense. We have a special config file for our website framework here and the Xml file is growing with added features, so new sites would be difficult to set up for new users who don't know the rules for the Xml document. Having that Xsd intellisense would be great for that. I also liked the code-snippets as well. Good for small or large companies, I think VS2005 is going to be good for efficiency and streamlining code.

I'm glad I didn't talk my company into XmlSpy licenses, they're quite pricey now anyways...

posted by Harlequin

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

tsilb — Tue, 03 May 2005 15:53:10 GMT

scobleizer wrote:

Yeah, sorry.

MBR is multiple bit rate video.

The one here is probably a 1.5 gbps video. The ones that we usually put up here are 300kbps.

You know, Divx 5.21 at 1MBps video and 320KBps MP3 audio would probably compress to around 150-200MB without sacraficing quality.

posted by tsilb

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

androidi — Tue, 03 May 2005 16:28:30 GMT

Wow!! I just got around to actually looking at the 1.5 GB video.. Its da bomb! Now keep this quality and give it in H.264 for a bit smaller size and this site will truly be the video blog of one of a kind.

Edit: I guess I should add that given better lighting and exposure this would beat the .NET Show

posted by androidi

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Charles — Tue, 03 May 2005 16:29:05 GMT

oops. yeah, wait for the compressed version...

posted by Charles

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

KosherCoder — Tue, 03 May 2005 17:25:33 GMT

Analise wrote:

I'm downloading the wmv file and it says 1,46GB is this correct ?!

This surely puts us onto our fourth DVD collection!

posted by KosherCoder

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

dotnetjunkie — Tue, 03 May 2005 18:02:46 GMT

Charles wrote:

oops. yeah, wait for the compressed version...

You don't mind that I download this version? If only every video here on Channel9 could be of that quality...

posted by dotnetjunkie

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

The Channel 9 Team — Tue, 03 May 2005 19:29:42 GMT

OK. The MBR compressed dowloadable file is now live.
C

posted by The Channel 9 Team

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

rasx — Tue, 03 May 2005 22:18:40 GMT

Yes!

posted by rasx

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

infinite_deliberation — Wed, 04 May 2005 00:36:39 GMT

(15:15) Code snippets for XML. Very nice.

(24:00-27:00) XSLT Viewer and Debugger - yes, yes, yes!

(27:00) Integrated XSLT and C# Debugging that allows switching between the two you guys are too much.

(36:00) Custom XML designer architecture. That's a great idea. I would love to see you guys get that out there.

All in all this stuff is pretty good. But when are you going to walk over to the BizTalk team and get their source code for the tree based schema editor. The current one is not fun to use and will be a sore spot for many developers when they see it hasn't really changed in three years.

posted by infinite_deliberation

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

technew — Wed, 04 May 2005 03:25:53 GMT

This movie is moving so fast. It makes me dizzy. The content is good, presenter is ok. I'm working on XML and looking forward to VS 2005

posted by technew

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

irascian — Wed, 04 May 2005 18:33:10 GMT

Harlequin wrote:

I'm glad I didn't talk my company into XmlSpy licenses, they're quite pricey now anyways...

Tell me about it! And to add insult to injury their new release schedule is very aggressive and usually involves an "upgrade" price that is almost as much as the full price.

Nice to see some decent competition at long last.

posted by irascian

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

PhrostByte — Thu, 05 May 2005 17:25:25 GMT

So, why don't I see any pure XML project types? I have an entire static-page website built with XSLT. Using a C# project to house it seems a little like overkill.

posted by PhrostByte

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

gue — Sat, 07 May 2005 22:31:47 GMT

Kryptos,
I´ve been pushing for A LITTLE CONCEPT AND THOUGHT to be put into the videos for some weeks now and more and more people seem to push in the same direction.

1) Cudos to Scoble: You can´t do pro videos as a one man show

2) With A LITTLE BIT OF CONCEPT he could seperate talk (audio only / lo bitrate) from demos (300Kb videos are quite good)

3) Keep the cam either on the speaker OR on the screen

4) Offer seperated streams for d/l

That´s coupla minutes more per video. Should be affordable timewise.
Thanks
G

posted by gue

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

gue — Sat, 07 May 2005 22:57:54 GMT

THANKS, Ken,
for reminding the community that there is a great MS product called Visual FoxPro and putting the box right behind the screen!!!

Not enjoyed such a "shameless plug" for VFP in a long time!
Thanks again
G

posted by gue

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

scobleizer — Sun, 08 May 2005 19:30:08 GMT

I'll work on the quality. Hopefully we can hire someone soon to help out so we can step things up a notch.

But, you miss the whole point of Channel 9. It's to get you into places that you otherwise wouldn't be able to get into. If I did pro videos that would change Channel 9. The lack of professionalism also makes the videos far more believeable. Compare our videos to those that are done by "professional" crews. I like ours every day of the week.

Plus, by keeping the workflow simple we can bang these out on a much more consistent schedule than others can do it.

posted by scobleizer

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

wacko — Sun, 08 May 2005 22:16:55 GMT

I would say that the last min type way that these things are done are good, just maybe cleaning it up a little in sence of quality and sound.... I mean I personally like them the way they are and I would like to see many many more of them, its sad we do not get to see more.... but I think all that needs to be cleaned up is the quality and sound.

On top of that sometimes the last min thing can drag down the quality because people do not know what to say, but we always have charles to fill in the void of dead space LOL. I say keep up the good work and I hope you guys get someone fulltime(wink wink) to pump these films out because we need more.

BTW what video apps do you guys use ? if any?

posted by wacko

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Nata1 — Mon, 16 May 2005 02:33:29 GMT

I'm not having any luck with the xslt editor in Beta II

I've assigned the output document, input document, stylesheet, schema, everything and I still don't get intellisense.

The only icons that are ever active on the tool bar are "format entire document" and "generate schema", the xslt debugger is dissabled.

any ideas?

posted by Nata1

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

Michael Butler — Wed, 18 May 2005 14:14:36 GMT

Looks very good. The new XML tools will make coding my MyXaml based projects quicker and easier. Can't wait for the final release of VS2005.

posted by Michael Butler

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

axelriet — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:37:49 GMT

...had to give up after about 12 minutes... constant left left/right panning and in/out zooming gave me nausea This is exactly how /not/ to make a video.

posted by axelriet

Re: Ken Levy, XML Tools in VS 2005

scobleizer — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:39:19 GMT

axelriet, I'll drink less coffee. Sorry about that.

posted by scobleizer