Robin &amp; Liangxiao Demonstrate the Application Designer (Part 2) (Channel 9)

Robin & Liangxiao Demonstrate the Application Designer (Part 2)

Posted: Mar 15, 2005 at 10:43 AM

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A few comments and my feedback:

Some really slow load times...they really need to go faster (I counted them on my fingers, so it's a rough estimate)
- 22 seconds loading web service in IE 9 ("slow web servers at Microsoft" is getting to be a lame excuse for slow webservice or application to browser performance)
- 15 seconds loading diagram initially (drawing circles with the mouse indicate Liangxiao was getting impatient as well)
- 7 seconds loading VS 2005 first time
- 6 seconds to run web service again
- 6 seconds - creating new webform in VS2005
Quirky diagrams (textboxes rather than immediate diagram of classes as they wanted)
Getting diagrams (and the projects containing them) working in SourceSafe is what is needed at a minimum. I'm not sure how it is more efficient to communicate using textboxes or this type of diagram rather than initially mapping things out in a regular 1-on-1 meeting.
The *.config files are even more confusing in these mixed apps than currently. And the file-based (as opposed to localhost) webapps have the potential to default to all the wrong places because VS.NET may have a different concept of default location than a user. For example, I really don't want everything I have to automatically be pushed to %UserProfile%\My Documents\Visual Studio Projects.
OK, the profiler is pretty cool. Out of curiosity, can those statistics and data be also uploaded to SourceSafe? As far as performance metrics, they would be useful.

I'm currently doing C# .NET development for a major financial bank in NYC (and while still a student am a Student Ambassador to Microsoft and promote .NET in general). I deal with VS .NET 2003 a lot and work through hundreds of thousands of lines of C# code.

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rjdohnert You will never know success until you know failure

Mar 15, 2005 at 7:55 PM

Cool videos, I still run Studios 2003 but seeing all the cool stuff that 2005 has to offer I may switch over when the Final comes out.
dantheman82
Mar 17, 2005 at 12:15 PM
A few comments and my feedback:
- Some really slow load times...they really need to go faster (I counted them on my fingers, so it's a rough estimate)
  - 22 seconds loading web service in IE 9 ("slow web servers at Microsoft" is getting to be a lame excuse for slow webservice or application to browser performance)
  - 15 seconds loading diagram initially (drawing circles with the mouse indicate Liangxiao was getting impatient as well)
  - 7 seconds loading VS 2005 first time
  - 6 seconds to run web service again
  - 6 seconds - creating new webform in VS2005
- Quirky diagrams (textboxes rather than immediate diagram of classes as they wanted)
- Getting diagrams (and the projects containing them) working in SourceSafe is what is needed at a minimum. I'm not sure how it is more efficient to communicate using textboxes or this type of diagram rather than initially mapping things out in a regular 1-on-1 meeting.
- The *.config files are even more confusing in these mixed apps than currently. And the file-based (as opposed to localhost) webapps have the potential to default to all the wrong places because VS.NET may have a different concept of default location than a user. For example, I really don't want everything I have to automatically be pushed to %UserProfile%\My Documents\Visual Studio Projects.
- OK, the profiler is pretty cool. Out of curiosity, can those statistics and data be also uploaded to SourceSafe? As far as performance metrics, they would be useful.
I'm currently doing C# .NET development for a major financial bank in NYC (and while still a student am a Student Ambassador to Microsoft and promote .NET in general). I deal with VS .NET 2003 a lot and work through hundreds of thousands of lines of C# code.

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