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Maybe they should change the name of this bit?
Maybe they should change the name of this bit?
I think Tina suspects your unfaithfulness!
I think Tina suspects your unfaithfulness!
I'm sorry but for the third day in a row... I am horribly disappointed in the presentation of these videos... once again, they try to use the same stereotypical and predictable attitude that drove so many away from (G4)TechTV. Sure, some of what was being talked about in each video is interesting... however the presentation makes it nearly unbearable.
I think I’ll give them until Friday in the hopes things improve, or at least cool down a bit. Otherwise I will chalk these two (or whoever is telling them to act this way) up as being very similar to Tom Green and Andy Milinokis and whose work I avoid like the plague for the simple fact that much of it is immature, extremely low brow and not one bit interesting.
I'm sorry but for the third day in a row... I am horribly disappointed in the presentation of these videos... once again, they try to use the same stereotypical and predictable attitude that drove so many away from (G4)TechTV. Sure, some of what was being talked about in each video is interesting... however the presentation makes it nearly unbearable.
I think I’ll give them until Friday in the hopes things improve, or at least cool down a bit. Otherwise I will chalk these two (or whoever is telling them to act this way) up as being very similar to Tom Green and Andy Milinokis and whose work I avoid like the plague for the simple fact that much of it is immature, extremely low brow and not one bit interesting.
on NeverWinter Nights, are you nuts? One of the most popular RPGs to have come out on the PC in the last 5 years. The fact that its world-building tool is powerful enough to make a game into an educational tool is something to be proud of, not to ridicule. I can't wait for NWN 2 to come out this year. I hope it'll be a few months after Oblivion though, that'll be sure to suck up my time.
Oh, Tina, the first syllable in 'diode' is pronounced 'die'.
It pains me to see Laura cheering for Microsoft. I guess you know who butters your bread though.
Good show overall though, would love to see more of that.
Time for some wine.
on NeverWinter Nights, are you nuts? One of the most popular RPGs to have come out on the PC in the last 5 years. The fact that its world-building tool is powerful enough to make a game into an educational tool is something to be proud of, not to ridicule. I can't wait for NWN 2 to come out this year. I hope it'll be a few months after Oblivion though, that'll be sure to suck up my time.
Oh, Tina, the first syllable in 'diode' is pronounced 'die'.
It pains me to see Laura cheering for Microsoft. I guess you know who butters your bread though.
Good show overall though, would love to see more of that.
Time for some wine.
you rock
you rock
Yeah, wait till friday... I heard fridays show is going to kick *.
Yeah, wait till friday... I heard fridays show is going to kick *.
I agree!!!!
I agree!!!!
Maybe I'm getting too old but it's getting tiring watching these 2 trying to make something out of poor material. Monday was good, Tuesday was ok, today, it is really bad.
Maybe I'm getting too old but it's getting tiring watching these 2 trying to make something out of poor material. Monday was good, Tuesday was ok, today, it is really bad.
What are you talking about? I find this show to be highly entertaining. It doesnt seem nearly as scripted as the G4 program, G4TV.com, and I find that to be a good thing. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinions, however.
What are you talking about? I find this show to be highly entertaining. It doesnt seem nearly as scripted as the G4 program, G4TV.com, and I find that to be a good thing. I suppose everyone is entitled to their opinions, however.
I also agree
I also agree
Great website, but the videos are beginning to suck. Overenthusiastic..
Great website, but the videos are beginning to suck. Overenthusiastic..
Because, you know. Being themselves is WRONG and all that. "Dont be honest to yourself! Be a mainstream * and act the way I want because thats obviously what everyone wants."
Because, you know. Being themselves is WRONG and all that. "Dont be honest to yourself! Be a mainstream * and act the way I want because thats obviously what everyone wants."
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Those who are disappointed may not be trying to persuade them to change their style. They are simply expressing their reaction.

Good luck, everyone!
Those who are disappointed may not be trying to persuade them to change their style. They are simply expressing their reaction.

Good luck, everyone!
Someone already made the point but I've heard most of these stories already... a more apt title may be "[Last] Week in Review", or a change in content to something more fresh may be in order?
I am still not sure where the MS part of all this is - except that "woot" bit by Laura. Is that the point? Subtle "yay MS" messages here and there?
A bit of usability... is navigating using the scroller bar intentially not working in the in-browser player? I find it annoying not to be able to skip forward or back to specific points in the albeit short videos. Or is this just a bug?
Someone already made the point but I've heard most of these stories already... a more apt title may be "[Last] Week in Review", or a change in content to something more fresh may be in order?
I am still not sure where the MS part of all this is - except that "woot" bit by Laura. Is that the point? Subtle "yay MS" messages here and there?
A bit of usability... is navigating using the scroller bar intentially not working in the in-browser player? I find it annoying not to be able to skip forward or back to specific points in the albeit short videos. Or is this just a bug?
Being yourself is fine and dandy... what I don’t like is when producers of shows like this think that it is these sorts of people that are not only going to attract viewers to the show, but also encourage them to stay.
I have little doubt that many like this sort of presentation... after all, G4 still exists (for reasons which I have yet to understand), but from where I sit and with my experience of seeing many others also tuning away from TechTV as this sort of attitude began, I am turned off even more that such a thing is considered ‘popular’ enough to garner such support.
Granted... I am rarely in the majority of many issues, especially with regards to what is hip, trendy or cool. What can I say? I’m an engineer... I like efficiency and clarity first, with pomp and eye candy bringing up the rear.
Being yourself is fine and dandy... what I don’t like is when producers of shows like this think that it is these sorts of people that are not only going to attract viewers to the show, but also encourage them to stay.
I have little doubt that many like this sort of presentation... after all, G4 still exists (for reasons which I have yet to understand), but from where I sit and with my experience of seeing many others also tuning away from TechTV as this sort of attitude began, I am turned off even more that such a thing is considered ‘popular’ enough to garner such support.
Granted... I am rarely in the majority of many issues, especially with regards to what is hip, trendy or cool. What can I say? I’m an engineer... I like efficiency and clarity first, with pomp and eye candy bringing up the rear.
I don't care what anyone else says, I'm loving this show. No dead weight guy in the middle either like back at G4, just Tina and Laura acting as wild and crazy as they want. I love having Laura and Tina back in my life everyday and so should you, or they will force you...... with violence!
I don't care what anyone else says, I'm loving this show. No dead weight guy in the middle either like back at G4, just Tina and Laura acting as wild and crazy as they want. I love having Laura and Tina back in my life everyday and so should you, or they will force you...... with violence!
I agree the most!
I agree the most!
Another good video, my only suggestion is to open some forums and allow user interactivity as well.
Another good video, my only suggestion is to open some forums and allow user interactivity as well.
I like the content, its much more laid back.
I like the content, its much more laid back.
And how did you hear that? jk!
This is a great conversation to have as we built 10 for you! There are a few guiding principles we have for 10.
First, we aspire to create a place for those enthusiastic people out there that want to use technology to change the world.
Second, we want to try and bring a voice to the underdog through our content. With 10 we want to give an audience to folks doing interesting things who don't have one already.
Finally, we want to create content on 10 that excites and inspires you and has you returning again the next day wondering what will be next on 10.
In doing this we're going to try experiment with a number of styles and formats and look to your feedback to see what you all like best refining the concept in real time. Spooky eh?
We're committed to making 10 amazing, but can only do it with your help.
So with these principles in mind, what would you like to see on 10?
Hey all,

This is a great conversation to have as we built 10 for you! There are a few guiding principles we have for 10.
First, we aspire to create a place for those enthusiastic people out there that want to use technology to change the world.
Second, we want to try and bring a voice to the underdog through our content. With 10 we want to give an audience to folks doing interesting things who don't have one already.
Finally, we want to create content on 10 that excites and inspires you and has you returning again the next day wondering what will be next on 10.
In doing this we're going to try experiment with a number of styles and formats and look to your feedback to see what you all like best refining the concept in real time. Spooky eh?
We're committed to making 10 amazing, but can only do it with your help.
So with these principles in mind, what would you like to see on 10?
Can I get her phone number?
Incidentally, I know someone named Laura who resembles Tina, so sometimes I get confused. Can Tina and Laura trade names? If not, just the phone number will do.
Can I get her phone number?
Incidentally, I know someone named Laura who resembles Tina, so sometimes I get confused. Can Tina and Laura trade names? If not, just the phone number will do.
Jeff,
I really like the site. I have 1 problem though. The concept for On10 according to your comments is, "10 is a place for people who want to use technology to change the world," but in the KEXP video we saw a lot about what the radio station is doing and very little about the technology. From my standpoint I see Channel9 as a site that shows you what the new products Microsoft employees are working on (and the site is excellent!). Maybe I am wrong, but I think On10 is supposed to show what how those Microsoft products are being used to "change the world," but in the KEXP video we say a 30 second blurb about the technology.
My input would be, please continue to show us what the companies are doing, but give us a more in-depth look into the Microsoft technologies(or any other technologies/products you want to discuss)being used.
Jeff,
I really like the site. I have 1 problem though. The concept for On10 according to your comments is, "10 is a place for people who want to use technology to change the world," but in the KEXP video we saw a lot about what the radio station is doing and very little about the technology. From my standpoint I see Channel9 as a site that shows you what the new products Microsoft employees are working on (and the site is excellent!). Maybe I am wrong, but I think On10 is supposed to show what how those Microsoft products are being used to "change the world," but in the KEXP video we say a 30 second blurb about the technology.
My input would be, please continue to show us what the companies are doing, but give us a more in-depth look into the Microsoft technologies(or any other technologies/products you want to discuss)being used.
Jeff, i am still confused about what the goal of 10 is...
I think you should create channels within 10 (news, interviews, etc..)
This site has amazing potential and i will support it all the way.
Good luck.
Jeff, i am still confused about what the goal of 10 is...
I think you should create channels within 10 (news, interviews, etc..)
This site has amazing potential and i will support it all the way.
Good luck.
your kidding right ?
Laura foy and Tina Wood are the hugest asset to this show, there fan base is so damn huge and they know everything about gaming.
To compare them to Andy Milinokis and Tom Green is really harsh, Maybe this show is just not targeted at people like yourself.. so ?
Give the site a break I think this is more for the casual user. ( with a sense of humor of course.)
your kidding right ?
Laura foy and Tina Wood are the hugest asset to this show, there fan base is so damn huge and they know everything about gaming.
To compare them to Andy Milinokis and Tom Green is really harsh, Maybe this show is just not targeted at people like yourself.. so ?
Give the site a break I think this is more for the casual user. ( with a sense of humor of course.)
The hosts are awesome, plz don't change them! Good dynamic. Keep it coming!
The hosts are awesome, plz don't change them! Good dynamic. Keep it coming!
Watch the friday show and you will know "how we know this"
Watch the friday show and you will know "how we know this"
We like them too.
We like them too.
I've already seen it. I'm on the 10 team if you didn't notice on the about page.
I was just being funny...trying anyway... 
got ya..... didn't do my homework before I responded.
Right on.... I think the show rawks!
got ya..... didn't do my homework before I responded.
Right on.... I think the show rawks!
Ok the ending to todays show was hilarious
Tina on the High Tech Wine Glass:
"...glass will break in there face and scar them for life, dont cheat on your lover, they will kill you, they will chop you up like the cattle you are....
Ok the ending to todays show was hilarious
Tina on the High Tech Wine Glass:
"...glass will break in there face and scar them for life, dont cheat on your lover, they will kill you, they will chop you up like the cattle you are....
The spunky attitude is fine so long as the content interests me. I hope there will be videos that I could share with coworkers. Monday was good because it had at least a glimmer of business relevance. One could also argue that KEXP is doing something important in its industry. I'd love for 10 to be a place where Laura and Tina present stories that I don't feel kid-nerdy talking about. Telling my boss about geeky wine glasses makes makes me sound silly. He wonders what I'm doing with my time. Talking about KEXP, less so.
The important point from your statement is finding people who "want to use technology to change the world." I think Monday fits the bill. Tuesday, not at all. Wednesday, sorta-kinda-maybe.
If you ask me, (and you have) skip the gimicky geek toys. Focus on people and companies who are dedicated things of greater substance.
The spunky attitude is fine so long as the content interests me. I hope there will be videos that I could share with coworkers. Monday was good because it had at least a glimmer of business relevance. One could also argue that KEXP is doing something important in its industry. I'd love for 10 to be a place where Laura and Tina present stories that I don't feel kid-nerdy talking about. Telling my boss about geeky wine glasses makes makes me sound silly. He wonders what I'm doing with my time. Talking about KEXP, less so.
The important point from your statement is finding people who "want to use technology to change the world." I think Monday fits the bill. Tuesday, not at all. Wednesday, sorta-kinda-maybe.
If you ask me, (and you have) skip the gimicky geek toys. Focus on people and companies who are dedicated things of greater substance.
My opinion on the hosts range from "ack, they are just too irritating to watch" to "meh, it's ok. And it atracts some people. So ok"
My opinion on the hosts range from "ack, they are just too irritating to watch" to "meh, it's ok. And it atracts some people. So ok"
its called variety.
its called variety.
Stand in line buddy. On a more serious note, they are probably married. Too bad they dont blog.
Stand in line buddy. On a more serious note, they are probably married. Too bad they dont blog.
I agree the mostest
I agree the mostest
Hey,
We try to give a little bit of all sorts of different info / entertainment every day. Hopefully one of these days we'll serve you something you enjoy. We are always looking for ideas and feedback!
And on Friday Tina and I arent really in the video at all...you'll love it!!
actually, I don't think they are married, but I could be wrong.
actually, I don't think they are married, but I could be wrong.
Hi Laura, Happy birthday to the two of you a day early.
Hi Laura, Happy birthday to the two of you a day early.
You know I actually enjoy that a show is hosted by people who are enthusiastic about what they are doing. I really do feel that this site has some good content so far, personally the only story they have done that I had previous knowledge of was the Leeroy one and most who play WoW know about that
I personally dont read over many news sites or have time to watch much tv between work and college so its nice to get some cool and interesting tidbits wrapped up in a <del>fantastic</del> <del>magical</del> fantastical way.
I think we will see the crew start to get into a good groove as the show continues. The only change I would make would be to have some shows where the girls are standing but also maybe have a desk or chairs for viewer email type shows. Wow this was longer then expected. Thanks to the two of you (if I am lucky) who actually read all of this.
You know I actually enjoy that a show is hosted by people who are enthusiastic about what they are doing. I really do feel that this site has some good content so far, personally the only story they have done that I had previous knowledge of was the Leeroy one and most who play WoW know about that
I personally dont read over many news sites or have time to watch much tv between work and college so its nice to get some cool and interesting tidbits wrapped up in a <del>fantastic</del> <del>magical</del> fantastical way.
I think we will see the crew start to get into a good groove as the show continues. The only change I would make would be to have some shows where the girls are standing but also maybe have a desk or chairs for viewer email type shows. Wow this was longer then expected. Thanks to the two of you (if I am lucky) who actually read all of this.
heh, the dead weight guy comment cracked me up.
heh, the dead weight guy comment cracked me up.
I agree the mostidious!
Thats agreeing so much you make up words to show how much you agree.
I agree the mostidious!
Thats agreeing so much you make up words to show how much you agree.
I just wish she had followed it up by saying,
"...and you will bleed!"
Tina seems like she would be a scary drunk. The kind you spill a drink on, apologize then turn around only to be shived in the kidney.
I just wish she had followed it up by saying,
"...and you will bleed!"
Tina seems like she would be a scary drunk. The kind you spill a drink on, apologize then turn around only to be shived in the kidney.
Hi 10ies,
.
what do i like to see on 10? Well, something like the monday show about KEXP, and more precisely the deepness of the show. I think that internet is filled to the brim with sites that contains links on "emerging" tecnologies, very few stops a minute and help people understand a little "how" tecnologies are used to make things.
This is why i loved the monday show, and this is what i like to see on 10.
Well there's another thing: i don't know how much non-english speaking people is watching this, but for me (as an italian) listening Laura and Tina at this "word per minute" rate is... hard. It worths the time... but it's hard
Hi 10ies,
.
what do i like to see on 10? Well, something like the monday show about KEXP, and more precisely the deepness of the show. I think that internet is filled to the brim with sites that contains links on "emerging" tecnologies, very few stops a minute and help people understand a little "how" tecnologies are used to make things.
This is why i loved the monday show, and this is what i like to see on 10.
Well there's another thing: i don't know how much non-english speaking people is watching this, but for me (as an italian) listening Laura and Tina at this "word per minute" rate is... hard. It worths the time... but it's hard
Yeah, I second that! One more week till Oblivion, whee!
You should do a segment on The Movies, find some really great user-created movies.
Yeah, I second that! One more week till Oblivion, whee!
You should do a segment on The Movies, find some really great user-created movies.
ouch! nothing like rusty steel through soft organ tissue.
ouch! nothing like rusty steel through soft organ tissue.
oops this reply was suppose to go under what TDR said about the Shiv.
oops this reply was suppose to go under what TDR said about the Shiv.
these girls are to cool to get married.
these girls are to cool to get married.
i try to reinact birth once a year.
i try to reinact birth once a year.
I was very sorry to hear that G4 cancelled another excellent show with lots of life and fun, but finding the ladies on this site has brought back what I missed the most. You can’t make everyone happy and it would be mistake to try. Tina and Laura have a great chemistry that translates into a lot of excitement, and a feeling that they are having fun and therefore it makes it enjoyable to watch whatever they are talking about. I am look forward to seeing what every new clip has to offer. Don’t change anything – you have something unique that is like catching lightning in a bottle. That’s just my opinion, but I wanted to voice my support. Thanks to everyone who makes this site possible!
I was very sorry to hear that G4 cancelled another excellent show with lots of life and fun, but finding the ladies on this site has brought back what I missed the most. You can’t make everyone happy and it would be mistake to try. Tina and Laura have a great chemistry that translates into a lot of excitement, and a feeling that they are having fun and therefore it makes it enjoyable to watch whatever they are talking about. I am look forward to seeing what every new clip has to offer. Don’t change anything – you have something unique that is like catching lightning in a bottle. That’s just my opinion, but I wanted to voice my support. Thanks to everyone who makes this site possible!
I agree about the dead weight guy,I dont know how well 3 people will fit in that little video box either.
also I see your out of Mt. Pleasant. Where do your bands usually play?
I agree about the dead weight guy,I dont know how well 3 people will fit in that little video box either.
also I see your out of Mt. Pleasant. Where do your bands usually play?
This totally rocks. Finally someone is looking out for us Pocket PC users that are into WMP. The only thing I notice is audio is off sync a bit. Any help would be great.
This totally rocks. Finally someone is looking out for us Pocket PC users that are into WMP. The only thing I notice is audio is off sync a bit. Any help would be great.
well put,i agree
well put,i agree
Here is an easy one.... how about you interview your On10 team. Here are some ideas:
1)Introduce team member/describe position
2)have them discuss the technologies & infrastructure used to get the job done
3)Upgrades you want to roll out to the site
Here is an easy one.... how about you interview your On10 team. Here are some ideas:
1)Introduce team member/describe position
2)have them discuss the technologies & infrastructure used to get the job done
3)Upgrades you want to roll out to the site
yeah, not playing anywhere right now, were currently looking for a drummer, know anybody? lol
yeah, not playing anywhere right now, were currently looking for a drummer, know anybody? lol
With a request like that... you are almost forcing me to find a decent camera and make a quick video of my own on how and what I’d like to see... of course that assumes I had access to a decent camera, some experience with video editing... and a reasonable topic to cover... hum...
Expect a more verbose feedback to come during the weekend after I've seen the full first week.
With a request like that... you are almost forcing me to find a decent camera and make a quick video of my own on how and what I’d like to see... of course that assumes I had access to a decent camera, some experience with video editing... and a reasonable topic to cover... hum...
Expect a more verbose feedback to come during the weekend after I've seen the full first week.
1) Where does the Health blog fit in?
2) Will more blogs appear over time?
3) What will you do with the gamertag info? Initially some gamertag info showed up, but subsequently dissapeared. Also it never picked up my gamertag picture.
That'll do for a start. Good luck.
BTW, you may consider adding a download Icon for PocketPC/Smartphone. Everyone may not realize it's the wmv format, and it would be nice for show support for the growing smartphone platform, as they're now starting to appear in North America.
1) Where does the Health blog fit in?
2) Will more blogs appear over time?
3) What will you do with the gamertag info? Initially some gamertag info showed up, but subsequently dissapeared. Also it never picked up my gamertag picture.
That'll do for a start. Good luck.
BTW, you may consider adding a download Icon for PocketPC/Smartphone. Everyone may not realize it's the wmv format, and it would be nice for show support for the growing smartphone platform, as they're now starting to appear in North America.
That's cause Tina is a straight up gangsta!
Can you throw us a gang sign next show? aha
Thanks Lil Trigga!
That's cause Tina is a straight up gangsta!
Can you throw us a gang sign next show? aha
Thanks Lil Trigga!
Well, so far, I'm NOT (really) disappointed.
As we all know...this is a new program and it's the first week, so expect things to be kind of "awkward." To be fair, wait until Friday to give a "final" opinion on the whole show.
Or at least, give them another week.They are obviously trying/testing all sorts of content and want to see what feedback we (the viewer) give them, positive or negative..If you don't like what you see, give specifics/reasons, instead of just saying "the show sucks."
Help the producers make the program you want to see, instead of just saying it "sucks."
They will listen to us, but we have to give them criticism in a manner that is appropriate. One word, or two word "reviews" doesn't help that much.
Well, so far, I'm NOT (really) disappointed.
As we all know...this is a new program and it's the first week, so expect things to be kind of "awkward." To be fair, wait until Friday to give a "final" opinion on the whole show.
Or at least, give them another week.They are obviously trying/testing all sorts of content and want to see what feedback we (the viewer) give them, positive or negative..If you don't like what you see, give specifics/reasons, instead of just saying "the show sucks."
Help the producers make the program you want to see, instead of just saying it "sucks."
They will listen to us, but we have to give them criticism in a manner that is appropriate. One word, or two word "reviews" doesn't help that much.
10ers sounds much better, dont you think?
10ers sounds much better, dont you think?
Without question, the best part of the show are the hosts, Tina and Laura. They are perfect together. And not just because of their looks, but more importantly, their likeable personality. I’ve always enjoyed hearing what they have to say.
As for the show, I think there are areas that need improvement, such as the idea of the two hosts just standing-still in front of a camera most of the time, reading from a teleprompter. I'm glad today's episode, for example, is not totally like a news show (with a desk, blazers, etc), but since Laura and Tina are energetic people, somehow I feel as if they feel/look sort of uncomfortable, when standing on a stage like that and just reading the news.
However, it's great to see them add some spunk, by commenting about the news stories, as well as adding non-scripted elements.
(continued)
Without question, the best part of the show are the hosts, Tina and Laura. They are perfect together. And not just because of their looks, but more importantly, their likeable personality. I’ve always enjoyed hearing what they have to say.
As for the show, I think there are areas that need improvement, such as the idea of the two hosts just standing-still in front of a camera most of the time, reading from a teleprompter. I'm glad today's episode, for example, is not totally like a news show (with a desk, blazers, etc), but since Laura and Tina are energetic people, somehow I feel as if they feel/look sort of uncomfortable, when standing on a stage like that and just reading the news.
However, it's great to see them add some spunk, by commenting about the news stories, as well as adding non-scripted elements.
(continued)
I'm not sure if this would work for "Today in Tech", since I don't know if the producers want it to be totally fun and silly and non-"news-like"...but, maybe, they could do skits of the news stories. Making the news more fun, by not just reading the news and having us seeing the articles (as G4tv.com did with their news), but make it more visually entertaining (not exactly like SNL's "Weekend Report", though).
I really like the KEXP tour and was pleasantly surprised to see the (unexpected) "Internet Phenomenon-Leeory Jenkins" segment. I enjoyed that segment a lot and I think the whole "Internet Phenomenon" thing is a great addition.
I enjoy 10 and think it has BIG potential. We all need to give it more time and see what the rest of the week will bring.
And in the meantime, I'll continue to post my support/ideas/suggestions, whenever I can.Keep up the good work.
I'm not sure if this would work for "Today in Tech", since I don't know if the producers want it to be totally fun and silly and non-"news-like"...but, maybe, they could do skits of the news stories. Making the news more fun, by not just reading the news and having us seeing the articles (as G4tv.com did with their news), but make it more visually entertaining (not exactly like SNL's "Weekend Report", though).
I really like the KEXP tour and was pleasantly surprised to see the (unexpected) "Internet Phenomenon-Leeory Jenkins" segment. I enjoyed that segment a lot and I think the whole "Internet Phenomenon" thing is a great addition.
I enjoy 10 and think it has BIG potential. We all need to give it more time and see what the rest of the week will bring.
And in the meantime, I'll continue to post my support/ideas/suggestions, whenever I can.Keep up the good work.
And I'd also like to wish Laura and Tina a (early):
Happy Birthday! =)
And I'd also like to wish Laura and Tina a (early):
Happy Birthday! =)
Discuss
Girls + tech knowledge = internet proposals
Discuss
Thank you! If you decide to film a video for 10, please use the contact us link in the left navigation to connect with us and we'll see about posting it to the site.
-Jeff
Thank you! If you decide to film a video for 10, please use the contact us link in the left navigation to connect with us and we'll see about posting it to the site.
-Jeff
Finally, I'd like to say that I agree more emphasis on information about the technology being used, would be nice, as well as getting to know the people and how the technology is used.
Getting down into the specs and details, etc. might be too much, but learning about what exactly the kind of technology (software, wires, hardware, etc) would be interesting.
I'm not saying to drown the show in tech details, but I think people do want to know the insides and the products. Every factor/aspect of technology (the people, the equipment, and how it reaches to others).
And if my "Today in Tech" suggestion is too silly...totally fine with me. I'm not totally sure how serious or how the silly, the show is supposed/intended to be.
Finally, I'd like to say that I agree more emphasis on information about the technology being used, would be nice, as well as getting to know the people and how the technology is used.
Getting down into the specs and details, etc. might be too much, but learning about what exactly the kind of technology (software, wires, hardware, etc) would be interesting.
I'm not saying to drown the show in tech details, but I think people do want to know the insides and the products. Every factor/aspect of technology (the people, the equipment, and how it reaches to others).
And if my "Today in Tech" suggestion is too silly...totally fine with me. I'm not totally sure how serious or how the silly, the show is supposed/intended to be.
The interface and engine are pretty sweet. I love how I can comment and watch at the same time. Also, the whole inteface is pretty gentile on the eyes.
The content leaves something to be desired. The girls are fun and energetic and stuff but the content doesn't neciserrily bring me back like the solid content on Channel 9. There should be more focus one one thing. like episode on industrial design and those pretty ipods, or emotional user interfaces. Instead of being random...there is so much random media out there it would be nice to have some that is very focused and gratifying (like channel 9 BUT with a different goal). It will be interesting to see where this goes.
Also, the logo is a little lame.
The interface and engine are pretty sweet. I love how I can comment and watch at the same time. Also, the whole inteface is pretty gentile on the eyes.
The content leaves something to be desired. The girls are fun and energetic and stuff but the content doesn't neciserrily bring me back like the solid content on Channel 9. There should be more focus one one thing. like episode on industrial design and those pretty ipods, or emotional user interfaces. Instead of being random...there is so much random media out there it would be nice to have some that is very focused and gratifying (like channel 9 BUT with a different goal). It will be interesting to see where this goes.
Also, the logo is a little lame.
very cool website, i wonder if this will be bigger then Jesus arr ..... channel 9? you guys really know what is cool on the web!
congrads
very cool website, i wonder if this will be bigger then Jesus arr ..... channel 9? you guys really know what is cool on the web!
congrads
actually i do, i work with one, But he is to weird to even recommend to anyone. We call him Alien boy.
actually i do, i work with one, But he is to weird to even recommend to anyone. We call him Alien boy.
Amen!
Amen!
How odd that when I checked this, in fact two people had responded. Yeah a call in type deal would rock Laura. You could be the Marv Handleman of Tech Talk, obscure reference there sorry.
I too am looking forward to Oblivion ,Dengin, but I got super bored with the last one about half way though so Im not so sure about this one. If I wanted to wander aimlessly and die I would play a MMORPG again so at least I can laugh with a guild about how lost and dead I am.
How odd that when I checked this, in fact two people had responded. Yeah a call in type deal would rock Laura. You could be the Marv Handleman of Tech Talk, obscure reference there sorry.
I too am looking forward to Oblivion ,Dengin, but I got super bored with the last one about half way though so Im not so sure about this one. If I wanted to wander aimlessly and die I would play a MMORPG again so at least I can laugh with a guild about how lost and dead I am.
I don't like Wow~~~~~
I don't like Wow~~~~~
Yeah I was into the WoW scene for a while but all MMORPGs get boring at some point. Give me Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, or a rousing weekend of Kingdom Hearts.
As for the site I think I made my thoughts clear in my other post, suffice to say the site rocks. Where else will you see a seemingly nice sweet girl like Tina tell you how you ARE going to get cut. That was priceless.
Yeah I was into the WoW scene for a while but all MMORPGs get boring at some point. Give me Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, or a rousing weekend of Kingdom Hearts.
As for the site I think I made my thoughts clear in my other post, suffice to say the site rocks. Where else will you see a seemingly nice sweet girl like Tina tell you how you ARE going to get cut. That was priceless.
I agree the mostinity
I agree the mostinity
Well, I know I registered to the G4 forums pretty late in life the of "G4tv.com" and I kicked myself for waiting too long...but, when G4tv.com ended...I left the boards.
I knew that wasn't the last time we'd see you two, and I must say that I'm really excited about this new show. Overall, I've been impressed with it.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, with any new show, expect there to be some rough spots. With feedback from the viewers, I'm sure the content will "evolve" and deliver exactly what they want/expect.
I have no doubt that the 10 team will ever let the viewers down and I hope the viewers won't let the 10 team down, by not expressing their opinions and suggestions.
It's great to be part of the 10 community and it's even better be part of the start of this new journey with you and Laura and a new crew of enthusiastic and hard-working people.
Keep up the kick-* work. I have no worries.
Well, I know I registered to the G4 forums pretty late in life the of "G4tv.com" and I kicked myself for waiting too long...but, when G4tv.com ended...I left the boards.
I knew that wasn't the last time we'd see you two, and I must say that I'm really excited about this new show. Overall, I've been impressed with it.
As I mentioned in an earlier comment, with any new show, expect there to be some rough spots. With feedback from the viewers, I'm sure the content will "evolve" and deliver exactly what they want/expect.
I have no doubt that the 10 team will ever let the viewers down and I hope the viewers won't let the 10 team down, by not expressing their opinions and suggestions.
It's great to be part of the 10 community and it's even better be part of the start of this new journey with you and Laura and a new crew of enthusiastic and hard-working people.
Keep up the kick-* work. I have no worries.
Dang, I wish I could edit my comments, though.
Correction:
"Well, I know I registered to the G4 forums pretty late in the life of "G4tv.com"
Dang, I wish I could edit my comments, though.
Correction:
"Well, I know I registered to the G4 forums pretty late in the life of "G4tv.com"
Great!!! Thanks for the link, I will watch it now!!!
Great!!! Thanks for the link, I will watch it now!!!
I still hating for the video to load in firefox and Quicktime. It is annoying and inconvenient. Fix it! Let it stream like Windows Media Player and IE!
I still hating for the video to load in firefox and Quicktime. It is annoying and inconvenient. Fix it! Let it stream like Windows Media Player and IE!
We've been working on a fix for these and the Today in Tech episode to your left is now a streaming the MP4.
Are you still encountering issues?
Let us know if the experience is better and if its, we'll apply this to all videos moving forward.
-Jeff
We've been working on a fix for these and the Today in Tech episode to your left is now a streaming the MP4.
Are you still encountering issues?
Let us know if the experience is better and if its, we'll apply this to all videos moving forward.
-Jeff
We'll definitely continue to have more episodes like the KEXP opening show. One thing though is that not all segments will have a Microsoft product slant.
The goal is to highlight more what people are doing with technology as opposed to the products that they've used.
The goal is to highlight more what people are doing with technology as opposed to the products that they've used.
Touche!
Touche!
Where does the health blog fit it in?
The goal of ten is not focus on products specifically, but on scenarios and interest areas. For example Health, Education, Design, Music, Games, Film and others. We hope for the Health blog to grow into a place for people interested in helping make the world a better place by applying technology to health.
2) Will more blogs appear over time?
Yes! Soon there will be an education blog then a design blog. Think of them as group blogs authored by people both inside and outside of Microsoft. What kind of blog would you like to see?
3) What will you do with the gamterag info?
Right now (there have been some service disruptions) it allows you to use it as an avatar and show your recent gaming history on the XBox 360. If enough people use it maybe we can create a ranking system specific to the tenors.
Where does the health blog fit it in?
The goal of ten is not focus on products specifically, but on scenarios and interest areas. For example Health, Education, Design, Music, Games, Film and others. We hope for the Health blog to grow into a place for people interested in helping make the world a better place by applying technology to health.
2) Will more blogs appear over time?
Yes! Soon there will be an education blog then a design blog. Think of them as group blogs authored by people both inside and outside of Microsoft. What kind of blog would you like to see?
3) What will you do with the gamterag info?
Right now (there have been some service disruptions) it allows you to use it as an avatar and show your recent gaming history on the XBox 360. If enough people use it maybe we can create a ranking system specific to the tenors.
nterestingly if you visit the on a PocketPC / Smartphone the Windows Media streaming server will send you down a version of the video encoded at a 56k bitrate which is fairly device friendly.
Thanks for the note!
Regarding formats support, yes we'll consider adding a download icon for encodings friendly to the Pocket PC/Smartphone.
nterestingly if you visit the on a PocketPC / Smartphone the Windows Media streaming server will send you down a version of the video encoded at a 56k bitrate which is fairly device friendly.
Thanks for the note!
I could not agreee with you more. I enjoyed G4.com alot ad was sad to see them go. Now I am glad to see them back. Keep up the good work.
I could not agreee with you more. I enjoyed G4.com alot ad was sad to see them go. Now I am glad to see them back. Keep up the good work.
What ever you two want to film we will watch, keep up the great work. Loving the first three episodes, I need more!
What ever you two want to film we will watch, keep up the great work. Loving the first three episodes, I need more!
You guys are doing a good job, keep it up. BTW has there been any talk of rescuing Sarah Lane from G4 as well?
You guys are doing a good job, keep it up. BTW has there been any talk of rescuing Sarah Lane from G4 as well?
I was there for the old school g4tv.com chat rooms. It's what kept me sane at work. I would always look forward to Fridays, when you could stream the live audio from taping. What is Scot Rubin doing these days? It would be awesome to see him on camera again with you guys too.
I was there for the old school g4tv.com chat rooms. It's what kept me sane at work. I would always look forward to Fridays, when you could stream the live audio from taping. What is Scot Rubin doing these days? It would be awesome to see him on camera again with you guys too.
Your acronyms are real and they're spectacular.
Your acronyms are real and they're spectacular.
I get audio but no video:(
Can someone help me out?
I get audio but no video:(
Can someone help me out?
Do you mean the video on the left?
What browser are you using?
What operating system?
Thanks!
Do you mean the video on the left?
What browser are you using?
What operating system?
Thanks!
Hi Guys,
Nice site, but where is the iRiver version of the download? It needs to be xvid and a certain screen size (available here: http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=624).
TIA
Molly
http://www.mollyzine.com
Hi Guys,
Nice site, but where is the iRiver version of the download? It needs to be xvid and a certain screen size (available here: http://www.iriver.com/html/support/download/sudw_view.asp?idx=624).
TIA
Molly
http://www.mollyzine.com
Well let me run down a few things:
I have dial-up (stop laughing...ok i'll accept a few giggles )
I have WMV, supposeivly(spelling off i know) updated.
I use AOL.
I hope this helps.
oh and my computer is a bit crappy.
Well let me run down a few things:
I have dial-up (stop laughing...ok i'll accept a few giggles )
I have WMV, supposeivly(spelling off i know) updated.
I use AOL.
I hope this helps.
oh and my computer is a bit crappy.
yeah, it's a kind of amazing show!
yeah, it's a kind of amazing show!
Doh! Excuse, me. I made another error...argh. I meant to write more in one of the sentences, but just forgot to.
Sorry for the mistake in my first comment...
Correction #2:
"I have no doubt that the show will get better and better over time. I'm sure the 10 team will never let the viewers down and I hope the viewers won't let the 10 team down, by not expressing their opinions and suggestions."
Doh! Excuse, me. I made another error...argh. I meant to write more in one of the sentences, but just forgot to.
Sorry for the mistake in my first comment...
Correction #2:
"I have no doubt that the show will get better and better over time. I'm sure the 10 team will never let the viewers down and I hope the viewers won't let the 10 team down, by not expressing their opinions and suggestions."
I replied to your reply and thus confusion smacks me in the face.
Well let me run down a few things:
I have dial-up (stop laughing...ok i'll accept a few giggles )
I have WMV, supposeivly(spelling off i know) updated.
And I use AOL.
oh and my computer is a bit crappy.
I hope this helps
I replied to your reply and thus confusion smacks me in the face.
Well let me run down a few things:
I have dial-up (stop laughing...ok i'll accept a few giggles )
I have WMV, supposeivly(spelling off i know) updated.
And I use AOL.
oh and my computer is a bit crappy.
I hope this helps
10 is a cool product!
10 is a cool product!
You're not the only one on dial-up. Don't feel too bad.
Anyway, did you download it, or stream it?
On dial-up, I know it will take a while to download, but it might work.
You're not the only one on dial-up. Don't feel too bad.
Anyway, did you download it, or stream it?
On dial-up, I know it will take a while to download, but it might work.
I dig. Keep it up.
I dig. Keep it up.
hi,everyone
nice to meet you!
hi,everyone
nice to meet you!
I like it
I like it
Its fun and looks good and all but some vids with a little more content and substance would be great
Its fun and looks good and all but some vids with a little more content and substance would be great
Very cool!!!!!
Very cool!!!!!
cool
cool
hmmm well yep... 10ers is better... thx
hmmm well yep... 10ers is better... thx
this is great !
this is great !
hello~everybob
hello~everybob
Hi,I'm from China.you too?
Hi,I'm from China.you too?
good point, they are working well!
good point, they are working well!
i like it
i like it
Hello World !
Hello World !
Hey ladies I followed u two here from tech tv, it's nice to u again. I am happy for u two doing a new show, the site is alsome. Though I have all the lastest quicktime but I am unable to veiw the videos on your site. I have to download them and watch it in windows media. well beside that I love the site and the show. I love u both Tina and Laura, keep up the good work and Laura merry me please!!!
Much love, Yogi
Hey ladies I followed u two here from tech tv, it's nice to u again. I am happy for u two doing a new show, the site is alsome. Though I have all the lastest quicktime but I am unable to veiw the videos on your site. I have to download them and watch it in windows media. well beside that I love the site and the show. I love u both Tina and Laura, keep up the good work and Laura merry me please!!!
Much love, Yogi
hehe,me 2.
hehe,me 2.
absolutely!
absolutely!
Nice to meet you all here.
But who can tell me if I can write my blog here?
thanks!
Nice to meet you all here.
But who can tell me if I can write my blog here?
thanks!
Handshake~
I am also from China!
Handshake~
I am also from China!
Very Good!
Very Good!
hello everyone. i'm the new one..
hello everyone. i'm the new one..
i am Chinese too
i am Chinese too
Very happy birthday to our lovely hosts, Tina and Laura!
Very happy birthday to our lovely hosts, Tina and Laura!
Happy Birthday!
Hope you all have a great one.
Drinks are on me! =)
Happy Birthday!
Hope you all have a great one.
Drinks are on me! =)
This is your happy birthday song, and it dont last to long.
This is your happy birthday song, and it dont last to long.
hehe hello Chinese~
hehe hello Chinese~
I like here,I like you,my friend
I like here,I like you,my friend
Welcome to ten !
Welcome to ten !
10101010101010101010
I am on 10 now!
10101010101010101010
I am on 10 now!
Hi,everyone!
We can only post our articles by comment.isn't it?
Hi,everyone!
We can only post our articles by comment.isn't it?
Great Show! Glad To See You And Laura Back Together And Doing What You Girls Do Best.
Great Show! Glad To See You And Laura Back Together And Doing What You Girls Do Best.
I love 10, the magical 2 binary numbers, a world is being built on 1s and 0s, that feels good.
I love 10, the magical 2 binary numbers, a world is being built on 1s and 0s, that feels good.
Chengdu is in Sichuan isn't it. Great food. I have never been to China, but it is on the top of my list to visit.
Chengdu is in Sichuan isn't it. Great food. I have never been to China, but it is on the top of my list to visit.
Fast,Good,Beautiful!
Fast,Good,Beautiful!
oh ,on10?
we post words here and show the viewer?
on10
whats that?
oh ,on10?
we post words here and show the viewer?
on10
whats that?
Hope its a great day for the both of you. Happy Birthday, much luv
-Danny & Dillin
Hope its a great day for the both of you. Happy Birthday, much luv
-Danny & Dillin
I enjoyed Tina and Laura's G4TV.com show because it was entertaining and fun, but most of all because there were intelligent interviews, commentary, and criticism also along for the ride. I hope we still get to see that from them here. I am forced to endure brutally boring office meetings with presenters that make me want to slit my wrists. I am sure you wanted to throw yourself out of the window a couple of times during an engineering lecture or two. Would anyone watch the oscars, for instance, if a comedian didn't MC the event? Interestingly your comment 100 % focuses on the style of the segments and not on the content. Do you feel that the post MTV presentation interferes with the content or do you feel that there wasn't any meaningful content to comment on.
I enjoyed Tina and Laura's G4TV.com show because it was entertaining and fun, but most of all because there were intelligent interviews, commentary, and criticism also along for the ride. I hope we still get to see that from them here. I am forced to endure brutally boring office meetings with presenters that make me want to slit my wrists. I am sure you wanted to throw yourself out of the window a couple of times during an engineering lecture or two. Would anyone watch the oscars, for instance, if a comedian didn't MC the event? Interestingly your comment 100 % focuses on the style of the segments and not on the content. Do you feel that the post MTV presentation interferes with the content or do you feel that there wasn't any meaningful content to comment on.
^^ hello world~
^^ hello world~
Please let us know what browser and operating system you're using as quicktime should be working for you as an inline player.
The presenters are awful! Who are they aiming this tech news at, 5 year olds?!
The presenters are awful! Who are they aiming this tech news at, 5 year olds?!
obviously not aiming it at you.
obviously not aiming it at you.
It seems that I cannot reply to a 4th generation reply...
To clamp71:
Some flash and glamour is fine, but what we’ve seen so far in my book is excessive and takes away from the content... when that content is interesting, and in such a case a balance must be had between pomp and show, and direct communication of the information.
Many are turned off by poor presentation, regardless of what the content is. If John Stewart had spent the entire night of the Oscars telling over the top jokes, eventually the audience and people at home would tire of it and care far less about what was being said.
The wine glass news story... completely pointless in my opinion. Sure, it’s a novel concept, but is it really something that is news worthy enough to be talked about forum? No. I expect that it was added to the mix just so that the over the top reaction we saw could take place, the sort of show that draws some to the show, and drives others away.
It seems that I cannot reply to a 4th generation reply...
To clamp71:
Some flash and glamour is fine, but what we’ve seen so far in my book is excessive and takes away from the content... when that content is interesting, and in such a case a balance must be had between pomp and show, and direct communication of the information.
Many are turned off by poor presentation, regardless of what the content is. If John Stewart had spent the entire night of the Oscars telling over the top jokes, eventually the audience and people at home would tire of it and care far less about what was being said.
The wine glass news story... completely pointless in my opinion. Sure, it’s a novel concept, but is it really something that is news worthy enough to be talked about forum? No. I expect that it was added to the mix just so that the over the top reaction we saw could take place, the sort of show that draws some to the show, and drives others away.
Yes. Welcome you next time!HOHO~
Yes. Welcome you next time!HOHO~
Give me my passport!
Give me my passport!
i wondered the same thing!!
i wondered the same thing!!
Someone mentioned "Penny Arcade" the other day on here and I've been thinking about the idea of possibly, having an episode (maybe, an "Internet Phenomenon") about web comics/sprite comics/flash cartoons (Homestar Runner, PVP, 8-Bit Theater, etc).
What do you think?
Someone mentioned "Penny Arcade" the other day on here and I've been thinking about the idea of possibly, having an episode (maybe, an "Internet Phenomenon") about web comics/sprite comics/flash cartoons (Homestar Runner, PVP, 8-Bit Theater, etc).
What do you think?
Indeed they are called "ENCHILADAS!!", and trust me a Mexican Guy (ME) knows about Enchiladas hahahaha
plus the fact that the freaken glass will cause some severe damage to the other person hahahah
Keep it up with the good shows, and I do hope no one is cheating on Tina since she can get little bit too Furious
Ciao!!
Indeed they are called "ENCHILADAS!!", and trust me a Mexican Guy (ME) knows about Enchiladas hahahaha
plus the fact that the freaken glass will cause some severe damage to the other person hahahah
Keep it up with the good shows, and I do hope no one is cheating on Tina since she can get little bit too Furious
Ciao!!
To dahat:
Hey dahat thanks for replying to my comment,
I absolutely agree with you that a stylized approach is not a guarantee of meaningful or appealing content. As a matter of fact I am sure that there is a inverse proportional relationship between the degree of stylization and mass appeal.
On the other hand I have confidence that Tina and Laura can pull this off, based on what they did on G4 and gaming criticism. That having been said, I look forward to seeing longer interviews and greater expansion on the topics covered. If we look an the wine glass story as an example, in addition to a 'check this out' approach it would be nice to see on10 comment on the products importance (or lack of importance) to society, along with some speculation of some other applications of the tech. As I have said, I think we will see this to come, particularly as they continue to abondon television paradigms and develop new ones.
To dahat:
Hey dahat thanks for replying to my comment,
I absolutely agree with you that a stylized approach is not a guarantee of meaningful or appealing content. As a matter of fact I am sure that there is a inverse proportional relationship between the degree of stylization and mass appeal.
On the other hand I have confidence that Tina and Laura can pull this off, based on what they did on G4 and gaming criticism. That having been said, I look forward to seeing longer interviews and greater expansion on the topics covered. If we look an the wine glass story as an example, in addition to a 'check this out' approach it would be nice to see on10 comment on the products importance (or lack of importance) to society, along with some speculation of some other applications of the tech. As I have said, I think we will see this to come, particularly as they continue to abondon television paradigms and develop new ones.
dahat, that is correct. Right now we don't let you go any deeper than 3 levels.
i like it
i like it
I think it's a bit shortsighted to be so critical a whopping 3 days into this deal. Give it time.
I think it's a bit shortsighted to be so critical a whopping 3 days into this deal. Give it time.
NWN doesn't blow! Ok... suddenly I hate them! (j/k)
NWN doesn't blow! Ok... suddenly I hate them! (j/k)
hey not every technical info has to be presented with a tie and suit on, give the girls a chance mate !
hey not every technical info has to be presented with a tie and suit on, give the girls a chance mate !
i like it.too easy.
i like it.too easy.
Thanx Tina & Laura you're two cool ...
Thanx Tina & Laura you're two cool ...
Privacy concerns? I dont like the idea that Microsoft could build a even better profile of me...
Privacy concerns? I dont like the idea that Microsoft could build a even better profile of me...
Laura and Tina have a chemistry which is probably not to everyones liking and that goes for how they present the show. I personally love their vibe and sense of humour and they have a fun way of presenting interesting content. Their enthusiasm, attitude and cool looks/charisma is one of their assets..... and I´m all the happier for that.

Plenty of boring/plain presenters out there, so look around.
-max-
Laura and Tina have a chemistry which is probably not to everyones liking and that goes for how they present the show. I personally love their vibe and sense of humour and they have a fun way of presenting interesting content. Their enthusiasm, attitude and cool looks/charisma is one of their assets..... and I´m all the happier for that.

Plenty of boring/plain presenters out there, so look around.
-max-
Yeah, Passport.com/.NET identities are not usually anonymous. You could (obviously) create additional Passport profiles, but that takes up valued 10Blogging time.
People enjoy building a profile within a community like on10.net, but would prefer to keep their superhero identities a secret from everyone else! I suspect the 10Team elected for a more bulletin board-esque approach for this reason.
Yeah, Passport.com/.NET identities are not usually anonymous. You could (obviously) create additional Passport profiles, but that takes up valued 10Blogging time.
People enjoy building a profile within a community like on10.net, but would prefer to keep their superhero identities a secret from everyone else! I suspect the 10Team elected for a more bulletin board-esque approach for this reason.
I like their style.
Personaly, I get enough exposure to dull, monotone keynotes, press releases, and tech reviews (CNET.com First Look Labs take note).
I like their style.
Personaly, I get enough exposure to dull, monotone keynotes, press releases, and tech reviews (CNET.com First Look Labs take note).
NeverWinter is great for anyone who likes to code/design.
Its NOT a single player game and was never intended to be so.
NeverWinter is great for anyone who likes to code/design.
Its NOT a single player game and was never intended to be so.
thanks, now i have an account on lala.com
thanks, now i have an account on lala.com
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