Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/442762_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility Paramesh Vaidyanathan, Principal Product Unit Manager, and Rico Mariani, Architect for the Visual Studio Platform team shares their ideas and long term goals for Visual Studio.You'll hear about the new changes coming to Visual Studio 2010 like the WPF-based editor, the new Visual Studio extensibility architecture and the key areas the team is looking to address beyond Visual Studio 2010. en Thu, 23 May 2013 01:10:29 GMT Thu, 23 May 2013 01:10:29 GMT Rev9 Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility Extending and Customizing VS" as well. It's good to see that the editor is going to be fully managed. I agree that not everything needs to move to managed code. Just the parts that devs have to interact with can be simplified.

I'd be interested to see if MPF becomes any simpler to use , or rather, if it takes less code to do things. Couple of things I have come across and have a question on whether VS10/11/x will address
(1)  Istvan Novak's VSXTra library is a layer on top of MPF that I think is sorely needed. Will that be one of the things addressed in VS10 ( a simpler MPF) ?
(2) Have you seen Victor Garcia (of Clarius Consulting) post on "Simple things which are incredibly hard" where he points out a couple of areas where things that should be simple one or two lines of code end up being very long winded. I guess VSXTra will help now but again, are we taking this on board for VS10(+) ?

posted by santosh_b

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621798520000000 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:30:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621798520000000 santosh_b Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility
i really hope the VS time are on the the backs of the wpf team to drive improvments into the platform Smiley
scott "the man" gu did wonderful things to the .net platform by betting on it with asp.net Smiley

dogfooding is a good thing and who of not a microsoft team can drive feedback into .net Smiley
short feedback loops are awsome Smiley

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621832340000000 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:27:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621832340000000 aL_ Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility

posted by aL_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621850720000000 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:57:52 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633621850720000000 aL_ Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility you end up with kilometers of code, which only reinforces what you are able to do today and ends up defining the status quo for everyone else.  this is comfortable (and so it is understandable - there is no contempt) but there are cleaner ways forward.  

posted by florindonot

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633622179680000000 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:06:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633622179680000000 florindonot Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility
I mean, seriously, wow.

I think that's the first time I've ever been accused of lacking the vitality to say no.  This is a totally new experience for me.

And that comment is also lucid and gender neutral.  Mind if I borrow it for my next exec meeting?

But to your point, there are few people who lament the "kilometers of code" more than I do.  This isn't something you can fix overnight but there isn't any way I'm going to allow a lack of vitality on my part to slow the process down.  I promise.

Just what I needed, more pressure Smiley

posted by ricomariani

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633632455230000000 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:32:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633632455230000000 ricomariani Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility

good luck to you.

posted by florindonot

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633638671130000000 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:11:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633638671130000000 florindonot Re: Paramesh Vaidyanathan and Rico Mariani: The Future of Visual Studio Extensibility
I know I'm a bit slow, I am really interested in what you are doing here from the perspective of being able to ink annotate over the ide - we have several failed attempts at getting this going how we would like it to.  We were so frustrated with the extensiblity (or not) of ides we published a paper on it.  It should be in ACM DL by now, but if not it is here http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~beryl/publications/CHINZ_2008_Issues_of_Extending_IDES.pdf 

love to hear if you think it will be achievable with the new version.

cheers
Beryl

posted by Beryl Plimmer

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633681670890000000 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:38:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/VisualStudio/Paramesh-Vaidyanathan-and-Rico-Mariani-The-Future-of-Visual-Studio-Extensibility#c633681670890000000 Beryl Plimmer