Comment Feed for Channel 9 - The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/466933_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis I had the pleasure of sitting down with one of SQL Server’s brightest, Nigel Ellis, to discuss the future direction of SQL Data Services.  Nigel goes deep on the changes of SDS.  If you want to learn what’s really going on behind the scenes this is a great place to start. Check out Nigel's MIX session here. Follow the SQL Data Services team blog here. en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:42:43 GMT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:42:43 GMT Rev9 Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis Is there any type of concurrency manager in the cloud ?

posted by Buzza

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764669850000000 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:09:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764669850000000 Buzza Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis posted by cdwatkins

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764708570000000 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:14:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764708570000000 cdwatkins Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis
Nigel.

posted by nigele

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764714060000000 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:23:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764714060000000 nigele Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis I agree there are cases where large databases are required.  Your example of Exchange backup (or other backup scenario) is a case for large blob data.  This is something supported using Azure blob storage - we will also be investigating supporting the SQL Server RBS interface which would allow seamless storage of large blobs alongside your structured data.    10GB of structured data is a great deal of information and covers our initial target application segments which shows most applications have databases in the order of < 3GB in size.

Remember any limits are just a starting point not an end.

Thanks,
Nigel.

posted by nigele

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764716390000000 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:27:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764716390000000 nigele Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis
I also would vote for easy tenant virtualization in terms of applications.  So I make a cloud app, but I need to support X different customers.   I need each tenant/customer "virtualized" (and seperate) without having to update my tables and queries to support tenant IDs.  All my queries "route" to proper virtual db based on login id.  This would abstract uneeded complexity I think.

posted by staceyw

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764924230000000 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 05:13:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633764924230000000 staceyw Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis For all of the mortals out there (like myself) here is a link to some information about SQL Server 2008 Concurrency which essentials deals with how the SQL Server handles locking.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms189132.aspx

Buzza, is there a particular situation unique to the Cloud that you are concerned about related to Concurrency?

posted by ZachSkylesOwens

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765549900000000 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:36:30 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765549900000000 ZachSkylesOwens Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis 10GB of "pure" data may sound like a reasonable starting point, but if the data are moderately indexed, the space would run out much-much faster.

Are you planning to charge for the total consumed space (data and indexes), or table pages only?

Are you planning to offer space compression by any chance?

Seva.

posted by sokhaty

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765637980000000 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:03:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765637980000000 sokhaty Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis posted by cdwatkins

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765778320000000 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:57:12 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633765778320000000 cdwatkins Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis > Are you planning to charge for the total consumed space (data and indexes), or table pages only?
The exact billing model is still under discussion.  The size caps would apply to the physical database size so it would include all indexes defined.

> Are you planning to offer space compression by any chance?
This is not currently in scope for our initial release.

Nigel.

posted by nigele

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633766590730000000 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:31:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633766590730000000 nigele Re: The Future of SQL Data Services with Nigel Ellis FILESTREAM (see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb933993.aspx) will not be supported in SDS v1.   There are some unique challenges with supporting this in our SDS cluster environment.   We are however considering building a SQL RBS provider (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc905212.aspx) that would allow you to store blob data within Windows Azure and manage link level consistency from within SQL Data Services.

Nigel.

posted by nigele

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633766592740000000 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:34:34 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/ZachSkylesOwens/The-Future-of-SQL-Data-Services-with-Nigel-Ellis#c633766592740000000 nigele