David Smith (and others) - Meeting the Interns
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The interns here are David Smith (Michigan State University), Caleb Bell (Texas A&M), Hari Sivaramakrishnan (Maryland), Jacqueline del Castillo (Stanford), Eric Woo (Brown University), Kevin Grigorenko (Rutgers University).
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PS. Did I hear correctly? That interns can be PMs?
Great interview, the internship interview process sounds scary.
Ill second that. I’ve used OneNote all year in school and am extremely happy with it. There’s no other program that I know about that comes anywhere near matching its capabilities.
I agree. Its one of the best tools, specially if coupled with a Tablet. I have used Onenote to take notes at school and its simply amazing.
I hope my question of intern PMs didn't convey any animosity. I certainly don't have any. Maybe it's my misunderstanding of what a PM really is. I'm equating the position to a group leader, or a head developer. That's why I'm surprise to hear the term "intern PM" which would sound like an oxymoron.
My good friend Mark Hammond was an Intern in high school and college (he was local to Seattle, and went to Caltech) and worked on IE 3,4,5 & 6.
He's now up in Boston doing an NLP startup, he just recently quit MSFT b/c his wife is getting a PhD up at Yale.
He's someone I'll introduce you too later, Robert
Haha. Well put.
- Steve
Orbit86: I can't even imagine using OneNote without a tablet, I'm sure it still has some useful features but with a tablet it is amazing. Although I can still think of a few improvements:
a) lasso select, rectangular select doesn't work well with my sloppy crooked handwriting
b) basic shape creator, i'd like to box/circle things neatly.
c) better TIFF support. I scan my textbooks into a multi-layer OCR'd TIFF which I can read/search/annotate in Journal but not in OneNote.
But anyway, excellent video and I've heard first-hand from my brother that interning at Microsoft is a great experience and hopefully one day I'll experience it too.
A huge fan of Channel9 and I have been following it from the beginning, although this is the first time I have actually replied to a video.
I would love to try and intern for MS but unfortunately, MS Redmond won't accept interns from outside of North America. This means everyone here (in Ireland) doing their placement, which is a full year of work with a software company, are advised to go to MS Ireland in Dublin.
I have friends there this year who say it is amazing but I would still love to apply for a year with Microsoft in the US as I would pretty much like to leave Ireland and get out to the states for a year.
Is there any chance that Microsoft might be changing its Undergraduate recruiting practices in the future? Or do you have the e-mail address of somebody I could contact for more information?
Kevin
I know Dave from MSU and Caleb and I were in the same group this summer (Avalon). Both great guys. Its good to see some Intern love here on Channel 9.
About the 'what's PDC' guy...he is wearing the very fasionable 'MS intern' shirt that is given out at NEO. Every intern leaves with more MS cloths than non-MS cloths!
Seriously, interning at microsoft was great. Tons of smart people, tons of stuff to do (in and outside work). Tons of free pop. And unlike lots of places you could intern, you actually get to work on stuff that ships.
MSU represent!
I think you've got it all wrong Kevin. One of the interns in my groupd this summer was from Ireland. I think he said he had to go to England to interview, but Microsoft then flew him over to Redmond where he is right now.
I'm sure it's not as common as US interns simply because it costs them a lot more, but he said 3 guys from his class got to interview.
Orbit, you can organize notes and handouts, but you still need to get it INTO your computer. If you have it in digital format, OneNote'll take anything into a Page.
Export to PDF? Why would you export to PDF? And, if you CAN export to PDF, then you can bring it into OneNote, write on it, record audio, search all of it.
Just wait for the next rev of OneNote as well. It's crazy. It really matures OneNote like 3 versions!
If I can ever do anything to help any of them, they can always drop me a line. The world needs more kids like these.
More professional? Cleaner? ...
I thought we were talking about school notes?
Also, who said anything about Word?
1) There are about 700 interns. Lot of diversity and we get to meet lot of people and exchange ideas.
2) Interns are treated as full time employees in most aspects.
3) Interns work on real features which are to be shipped.
4) Meeting BillG is one of the best thing in internship. Not even the full timers have this opportunity.
5) SteveB came to the intern techfest. So one could meet him too.
6) Intern program in thoughtfully organized with lots of activities interspersed like
- attending Baseball games of mariners
- Trip to Mt.rainier, Mt Baker, st helens
- White water rafting in white salmon river
- skydiving
- Barbeque at BillG's house
- Intern techfest
- soccer matches
not all are organized by the Intern Program, but are initiatives taken by the interns themselves.
7) some times your require to put 10-14 hours of work.
8) Results/products matter a lot, so put 3 hours and produce it or put 14 hours. Quality matters a lot.
9) Your co-workers are super intelligent guys. The discussions in corridors are really intellectually charged.
10) People here are really passionate about their work and the company
Overall a fantastic experience.
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