Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/97800_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server Michael Rys, a program manager on SQL Server's engine team, talks with us all about XML in the upcoming SQL Server 2005.He gives us some demos about 27:22 into the video. en Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:37:29 GMT Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:37:29 GMT Rev9 Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server Hey cool stuff!

I won't write more.. I'll start my virtual pc right away and start playing around =)

posted by B®

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632595129980000000 Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:56:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632595129980000000 B® Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server posted by erik_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632595692770000000 Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:34:37 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632595692770000000 erik_ Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server
erik_ wrote:
Hmm, I quickly skipped to the demo, because I don't got time atm to view the full video. They learn me at school to normalize everything, and with this xml insert this isn't happening or ?... should I just watch the full video tommorow?

I often watch the C9 videos at double speed: everything is still understandable, the demos look just as good, and you only spend half of the usual time watching.

posted by TommyCarlier

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596161850000000 Sun, 14 Aug 2005 11:36:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596161850000000 TommyCarlier Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server
I personally like the fully enjoy the Channel 9 videos and usually sit down at the end of a hard day and watch them. I always make time! Smiley

posted by chrisgrainger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596271110000000 Sun, 14 Aug 2005 14:38:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596271110000000 chrisgrainger Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server And hearing Scoble laugh at double speed is just as enjoyable as normal speed.

posted by TommyCarlier

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596327940000000 Sun, 14 Aug 2005 16:13:14 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632596327940000000 TommyCarlier Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server posted by Johannes

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632597496920000000 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 00:41:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632597496920000000 Johannes Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server
I have been using this kind of solutions for a while with great results, and i always had to use a text or ntext column type for storing the XML data, parsing it after, but if SQL 2K5 comes with it, even better.

posted by ernestofreyre

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632597948630000000 Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:14:23 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632597948630000000 ernestofreyre Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server This was very useful and interesting video.

Thanks Michael Rys.

Cheers!!!!

posted by shaju

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632599113690000000 Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:36:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632599113690000000 shaju Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server
Johannes wrote:
I really don't get the advantage of the XML column over regular relational data even though I've been to numerous events explaining the topic of XML in SQL Server 2K5. Nobody has ever presented a specific usecase for this column type that just makes me go "ahhh yes! that's cool!!!". In the cases I've heard I always have a feeling that it would be more valuable to transform the data into relational data. Am I the only one?


You're not

Of course it looks intresting for a all-XML-data supply chain, for improved security, for interroperability between XML able products. But no "ahhh yes! that's cool!!!" that gives you the power to code in the night.

I'm waiting the results of the http://www.csdevcompetition.com/ contest...

posted by Piotrek

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632601368850000000 Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:14:45 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632601368850000000 Piotrek Re: Michael Rys - XML in SQL Server
Regarding the killer use cases for XML: I try to address this somewhat in the non-demo part. If your XML describes basically relational data that you want to repurpose, slice and dice in different ways, shredding it into relational form and doing normalization is a good idea. If the XML OTOH is representing a markup document (such as a WordML or XHTML document), or the XML represents a logical unit (aka object) which you want to store and retrieve as efficiently as possible while still having the ability to query into its components, storing the data as XML is easier and often preferrable.

Best regards
Michael

posted by M.Rys

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632608643510000000 Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:19:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/scobleizer/Michael-Rys-XML-in-SQL-Server#c632608643510000000 M.Rys