Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/previewImages/100/473158_100x75.jpg Channel 9 - Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI High DPI is not new to Windows; however in Windows 7 we made few changes that developers should be aware of. The goal is to encourage end users to set their displays to native resolution and use DPI rather than screen resolution to change the size of displayed text and images. Windows 7 can auto-detect and configure a default DPI on clean installs on machines configured by their OEMs using DPI settings. Join Silvana Moncayo and Matthew Blackshaw, PM in the graphics team and Yochay Kiriaty, Technical Evangelist, on a discussion on Windows 7 High DPI. This is another video in a sereis of Windows 7 Grahics videos on Channel 9 en Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:59:02 GMT Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:59:02 GMT Rev9 Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Wow the audio is messed up for me on this video. Oh wow, maybe it isn't the video, perhaps silverlight..

posted by intelman

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803876900000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:14:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803876900000000 intelman Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Thansk for giving a hint. But unfortenately I think currently there is way too many applications that break if you set the High DPI. For instance MS SQL Reporting Services 2008 fails. Just tried it -> some text is not being displayed any more in reports. So even MS itself did not really take care about this really important Windows feature - which is by fact in Windows since Win98 (or was it Win2000).

So i guess it will take a while until this wil be really useful.

posted by Hansjoerg

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803964510000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:40:51 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803964510000000 Hansjoerg Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Link speed limited, i can only click "WMA" Sad ...

posted by nano.he

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803968560000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:47:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633803968560000000 nano.he Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI so where can i find a desktop monitor for say 18" to 22" that's even 100PPI ?  I hate to say this but there are so very few montiors that are high-dpi. seems like small laptop displays are the only common ones.

who wants a an 12x8 inch desktop screen?

posted by figuerres

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804081170000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:55:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804081170000000 figuerres Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Where is the example?  I see the manifest (which gives a warning when added during linking), but not the full example on MSDN.

Thanks.

posted by jfoegen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804114570000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:50:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804114570000000 jfoegen Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Wow..

posted by stevo_

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804325200000000 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:42:00 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804325200000000 stevo_ Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI I don't like it how that setting is treated. The DPI setting should define the real DPI value that the display has. It's not a zoom setting. Zooming should be another setting entirely.

For example, on netbooks you usually have 114 - 147 DPI. In order to be able to set proper sizes and proportions towards real world elements that you might display on the screen, you would need the correct DPI value. However, you wouldn't want everything to scale that much, because you are very space constrained. Or, there's also displays with a 72 DPI, where setting that value would have a really bad result. Therefore there should be a separate zoom setting that allows elements which have been defined with pixel based sizes to scale accordingly for people that want things to display larger.

The DPI setting on the other hand should only be used to be able to specify the size of an element in Point (pt) for print media or other real world measurment units like inches, and centimeters.
You should also use a bicubic resizer for the magnifying tool or images at high DPI... it gets pixelated.

PS: If anyone knows of a 32" widescreen display with 200 DPI or more... I want one (or two)!

posted by Dodo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804484420000000 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:07:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633804484420000000 Dodo Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI very nice, this should make using my tv as my pc monitor easier!  also my netbook.

posted by spottedmah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805446090000000 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:50:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805446090000000 spottedmah Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI that stinks...

posted by spottedmah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805446920000000 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:51:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805446920000000 spottedmah Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI video seems kinda formal compared to the typically charles video.

posted by spottedmah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805449660000000 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:56:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805449660000000 spottedmah Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI it was mention that WPF scales but Win32 and MFC doesn't what about WinForms?

posted by spottedmah

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805450580000000 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 02:57:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633805450580000000 spottedmah Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Kinda useless (rarele used) feature, btw...

To make it work properly ALL (anything and everything) must use "millimeters of screen", instead of whole bunch of "measures" such as "pixel", "point" etc.

posted by BlackTiger

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633806720480000000 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:14:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633806720480000000 BlackTiger Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI This is very important, certainly not useless. Apps are supporting this pretty well. I've been using "high dpi" for a long time and while really bad in XP, by 2007 in vista most apps would scale correctly, with bugs now and again mostly in in minor applications, and now almost never happen. In fact it's more and more common for app icons to have 120dpi etc versions so there is no pixellation even here.

Having a per-user setting in Win 7 is an expected and good addition.

There should also be a nag screen when a user has a non-native resolution, allowing a one-click fix. It's ridiculous to see the display technology that microsoft and others have developed, cleartype for example with it's sub-pixel precision and find that people are sending the screen a low-res image.

posted by CSMR

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633843632370000000 Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:33:57 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633843632370000000 CSMR Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI i totally agree. DPI is a screen calibration setting, not a "zoom" setting. besides the lack of hardware (high dpi screens) available, and the lack of Windows handling high DPI correctly (or easily for the programmer), i think that the confusion caused by the poor naming and poor explanation of windows dpi has really held back the high dpi world.  If your screen is 144DPI, then the OS should be set to 144DPI. After that, if you want more "screen realestate", there should be a separate setting to reduce the size of UI elements (font sizes, width of title bars, icon sizes, etc).    UI designers and programmers should be designing their UI around the inch (or centimeter) instead of the pixel.

 

the high dpi world is in shambles with so much misinformation and misconceptions around. but what do i know? my opinion doesn't matter at all.

posted by quillaja

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633853893710000000 Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:36:11 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633853893710000000 quillaja Re: Windows 7 Graphics – High DPI Same experience here. We have a collection of 15" laptops with 1920x1200 displays, and you have to sit with your nose touching the screen to be able to read any normal text at 100% DPI. Hence we run at 200% DPI but soooooo many applications break down horribly... Sad

 

Let's hope Win7 gets quick adoption to move in the right direction.

posted by JBRWilkinson

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633857725690000000 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:02:49 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/yochay/Windows-7-Graphics--High-DPI#c633857725690000000 JBRWilkinson