Comment Feed for Channel 9 - Lap around the Windows Runtime http://ch9files.blob.core.windows.net/build/2011/thumbs/874.jpg Channel 9 - Lap around the Windows Runtime The Windows Runtime (WinRT) is a key piece of technology used by all Metro style apps in Windows. What actually is the Windows Runtime though? This session explores this key question by digging into the concepts of language projections, the WinRT type system and advanced API patterns included in the Windows Runtime. Learn how Windows uses interface patterns combined with language projection to present modern concepts in a natural and familiar way to each programming language.このセッション スライドが日本語に翻訳されました。日本語版のファイルをダウンロードするには、こちらをクリックしてください。 en Sat, 26 May 2012 04:52:36 GMT Sat, 26 May 2012 04:52:36 GMT Rev9 Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime Been dogged with syncapation issues due to non support for low latency sound effects in Silverlight 4. 

Is it reasonable to expect not to have such issues with Metro/XAML/WRT apps under Win8?

Super excited if that is the case.

EG http://rd3d2.wordpress.com/2011/08/15/orchestrator/

 

Ian
http://rd3d2.wordpress.com

posted by Ian2

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634515465246794195 Tue, 13 Sep 2011 21:35:24 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634515465246794195 Ian2 Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime posted by Gian Paolo

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634516724991887761 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:34:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634516724991887761 Gian Paolo Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime @Gian Paolo:**spoiler** There will be COM Smiley

posted by Sonicflare

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634516859129938288 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:18:32 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634516859129938288 Sonicflare Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime posted by Javier

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634517060066142189 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:53:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634517060066142189 Javier Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime This looks extremely like a more modern (Metadata, Generics,…) COM Smiley

 

I'd like to see the complete technical foundation Smiley

posted by MFH

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634517079876903256 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 18:26:27 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634517079876903256 MFH Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime

,MFH wrote

This looks extremely like a more modern (Metadata, Generics,…) COM Smiley

Hmm. I could swear Microsoft already has something like that. It's on the tip of my tongue. Starts with dot and ends with 'ET'. And I'm sure there's an 'N' in there somewhere, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

posted by Taz.0

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634518055890222885 Fri, 16 Sep 2011 21:33:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634518055890222885 Taz.0 Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime

,Taz.0 wrote

*snip*

Hmm. I could swear Microsoft already has something like that. It's on the tip of my tongue. Starts with dot and ends with 'ET'. And I'm sure there's an 'N' in there somewhere, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Luckily, this WinRT is entirely written in native code, so it is more efficient than .NET.

 

posted by C64

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634518677877963911 Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:49:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634518677877963911 C64 Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime
Makes sense for me but until we will reach the completely consolidated point we have a whole plethora of choices.

posted by Mike

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634519461770063749 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 12:36:17 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634519461770063749 Mike Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime

WinRT is basically baking .NET-Concepts into the OS at a native level by having an pumped up COM reusing a lot of concepts. So the longterm strategy is to get rid of Win32 by extending WinRT. And after that they will also want to get rid of the .NET-CLR in the long term.

So, are you saying that there would be a chance web app like ASP.NET to be built into WinRT itself in the future, by deprecating .NET?

posted by mahara

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634519504264130285 Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:47:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634519504264130285 mahara Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime
So I think there will be a ".NET-Experience" using the WinRT. There will be a whole bunch of new namespaces (Windows.* instead of System.*), maybe some kind of translator like they did between Java and .NET. The best of .NET-BCL will be ported to WinRT (less successful APIs will be left behind). And the CLR will be phased out in favor of the native runtime.

So yes, I definitively think that there will be something like ASP.NET for WinRT. If something is called as epic as the "Windows Runtime" I think it will be part and base of everything that has the Windows brand.

posted by Mike

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634520537695652965 Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:29:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634520537695652965 Mike Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime Awesome presentation!  Great, deep presentation!  Lot's of coding examples!!  I will definitely have to watch this one again.  Great work Martyn!

posted by FrankieC

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522463805130557 Wed, 21 Sep 2011 23:59:40 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522463805130557 FrankieC Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime Very interesting.  Yes, this is like a combination of ideas from COM and .NET and that's great.  I hope it works as smoothly as advertised. 

posted by Richard.Hein

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522499275136386 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 00:58:47 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522499275136386 Richard.Hein Re: Lap around the Windows Runtime Joining the side story about WinRT and .NET here. When .NET came out, it covered a lot things that devs had wanted in the 90s. Managed memory, a common type system etc. Anyone from the VB6 and VC++ days would remember that these types didn't talk nice, String in VB, and you don't know what kind of string to use in C++, CString, char*, CHAR* BString etc. 

So many of these things were addressed and a new language came on board. Building web apps wasn't a totally alien experience anymore, objects written in one .NET language could be accessed from another with ease.

.NET however left gaps and I remember reading many suggestions, debates etc. (probably participated in one myself) about all the stuff on platform invoke etc. A common suggestion was that instead of having all this pInvoke stuff, an Object Oriented API would be a welcome addition because you still cannot easily figure out what kind of type to pass when the API wants a pointer. 

So this is pretty much what WinRT is. It covers the gaps that were left by .NET and means that we don't have to write as many, if any, pInvoke statements. That's what I think anyway.

posted by Fabulous_Fadz

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522970906571116 Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:04:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/BUILD/BUILD2011/PLAT-874T#c634522970906571116 Fabulous_Fadz