Comment Feed for Channel 9 - The Future of C++ http://video.ch9.ms/sessions/build/2012/2-005.jpg Channel 9 - The Future of C++ This talk will give an update on recent progress and near-future directions for C++, both at Microsoft and across the industry, with some announcements of interest in both areas. The speaker is the lead language architect of Visual C++ and chair of the ISO C++ committee. en Fri, 24 May 2013 15:21:11 GMT Fri, 24 May 2013 15:21:11 GMT Rev9 Re: The Future of C++ This should be the keynote at day 4 Smiley

posted by liangshi

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634871439534355011 Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:45:53 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634871439534355011 liangshi Re: The Future of C++ this should been the keynote on the first day Tongue Out

posted by Ion Todirel

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634872914718292002 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:44:31 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634872914718292002 Ion Todirel Re: The Future of C++ Just to clear it up, this will be broadcast live?  On this page or on some other one?

posted by MichaelPrice

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874652669257488 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:01:06 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874652669257488 MichaelPrice Re: The Future of C++ @MichaelPrice: It will be broadcast live, on http://channel9.msdn.com (site homepage)

 

posted by Duncanma

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874671277870907 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:32:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874671277870907 Duncanma Re: The Future of C++ Really a great session.  I especially like:

  • isocpp.org as a unifying website.
  • String literals 
  • Initializer lists
  • "await" for C++   
  • Bjarne's book is coming soon.

Something things I don't like:

  • "Windows Store Apps" documentation that omits how to achieve a goal in C++.
  • The documentation assumption that you are individually familiar with C# and XAML when explaining how to combine C++ and XAML. 
  • Sridhar Poduri's book "Programming Windows 8 Apps using Microsoft Visual C++" is not available yet. 
  • Key "Windows Store Apps:" functionality implemented in .NET rather than in language independent that C++ can use.

 

Some questions I have:

  • I'm not sure how to search JUST the Microsoft documentation that pertains to C++ and "Windows Store App" development for a keyword.  (I could in a PDF or windows help file).
  • I am not sure yet if you really can take ANY C++/CX and XAML  program from Win8 to Win Phone 8.  There usually is some fine print.

posted by bdhc73a

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874879693534351 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:19:29 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634874879693534351 bdhc73a Re: The Future of C++ Easily the best talk at BUILD this year. It's fantastic that Microsoft has rediscovered native - long may this state of affairs continue!

posted by tomkirbygreen

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875580628154944 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:47:42 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875580628154944 tomkirbygreen Re: The Future of C++ @bdhc73a: There are multiple sessions during this Build event that explain exactly how to code share between W8 and WP8 for store purposes.

posted by babelshift

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875625832315486 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 18:03:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875625832315486 babelshift Re: The Future of C++ posted by moldau

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875714868560659 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 20:31:26 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875714868560659 moldau Re: The Future of C++ So many great news for C++, I love it Smiley

posted by MFH

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875780639184670 Sat, 03 Nov 2012 22:21:03 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875780639184670 MFH Re: The Future of C++ posted by LCID Fire

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875897754242411 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:36:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875897754242411 LCID Fire Re: The Future of C++ According to Windows Phone API reference there are 11,000 Windows Runtime API members supported on Windows 8. The phone supports a subset of 2,800. The Phone also has 600 members not supported on Windows 8.

Search for "Windows Store Apps" "Windows Phone 8" "API is not implemented" to see some examples.

Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 platform comparison shows the libraries supported in the Common native API: DirectX 11.1, XAudio2, MediaEngine, STL, CRT, and WinSock.

posted by bdhc73a

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875956599299589 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 03:14:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634875956599299589 bdhc73a Re: The Future of C++

, liangshi wrote

This should be the keynote at day 4 Smiley



It was (in terms of C++) Smiley

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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876012066484608 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 04:46:46 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876012066484608 Charles Re: The Future of C++

A little disappointed about no news on Casablanca (was hoping for it to be open sourced). Microsoft stuff was interesting, the general stuff was great.



Did you watch Niklas' talk? We also talked about this (Casablanca as OSS) on Herb's C9 live session, which will be available on demand soon.
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posted by Charles

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876013625021609 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 04:49:22 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876013625021609 Charles Re: The Future of C++ posted by Benjamin Lindley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876460210744126 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:13:41 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876460210744126 Benjamin Lindley Re: The Future of C++ @Benjamin Lindley:

Have a look at http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp! Whilst not official, it's by far the most complete attempt for a online documentation of the library (+language)

posted by MFH

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876562006804786 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:03:20 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876562006804786 MFH Re: The Future of C++ Yes, I know of that one. I've made a few contributions to it, in fact. It would still be nice to have a definitive source that I could look to and point others to.

posted by Benjamin Lindley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876583550166366 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:39:15 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876583550166366 Benjamin Lindley Re: The Future of C++ @Benjamin Lindley: How about the Standard? (Or one of the freely available drafts [N3337 and N3376]) You know, the Standard is the ultimate source for anything...

posted by MFH

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876659093568975 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:45:09 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876659093568975 MFH Re: The Future of C++ The standard, in its current form, is not suitable for human consumption. We need something that anybody can understand. And it needs to be more easily accessible. Each class and function needs to have its own web page to which we can link, and it of course needs to be heavily cross-referenced. Something like en.cppreference.com , just that it would be officially endorsed by the C++ standards committee and complete.

posted by Benjamin Lindley

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876674083685922 Sun, 04 Nov 2012 23:10:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634876674083685922 Benjamin Lindley Re: The Future of C++ @bdhc73a I finished the book and handed over the final manuscript to the press folks Smiley It's now in their hands to get it into the market asap.

posted by SridharP

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877338843132312 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:38:04 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877338843132312 SridharP Re: The Future of C++ posted by Mihai

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877373134255090 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:35:13 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877373134255090 Mihai Re: The Future of C++ @Mihai: There is a video from his C9 Live appearance here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Ch9Live/Channel-9-Live-at-BUILD-2012/Herb-Sutter-at-Build-2012

 

posted by Duncanma

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877498790683776 Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:04:39 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877498790683776 Duncanma Re: The Future of C++ C++ as it is sucks as a too complex language and there are better superior native development platforms (cough Delphi cough...) it is sad we are still having to deal with archaic things like headerfiles etc.

posted by EdPaay

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877776109865835 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 05:46:50 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877776109865835 EdPaay Re: The Future of C++ posted by Mihai

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877954415524070 Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:44:01 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634877954415524070 Mihai Re: The Future of C++ posted by Andrew Gottemoller

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634883509442969150 Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:02:24 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634883509442969150 Andrew Gottemoller Re: The Future of C++ Seriously a great presentation - Herb Sutter is the man.

posted by PhilN

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634890344482105436 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:54:08 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634890344482105436 PhilN Re: The Future of C++ @Andrew Gottemoller:

VC++ is a C++ compiler not a C compiler. Why are you expecting C-features again? Why is it so hard for people to accept that VC++ is not a C compiler...

posted by MFH

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634894476883356226 Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:41:28 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634894476883356226 MFH Re: The Future of C++
Is there a way to convert those libraries for WinRT? Anyone with hands on experience on RT, please reply.

Is there any free OCR library for WinRT?

posted by Kamz

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634896627791775468 Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:26:19 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c634896627791775468 Kamz Re: The Future of C++ posted by nnn

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c635036222961218933 Wed, 08 May 2013 15:04:56 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2012/2-005#c635036222961218933 nnn