That's right why not allow PNG's for avatars, the official C9 ones are PNG but anything uploaded is automatically converted to a JPG. For an avatar like mine that is almost completely made from vectors its a real let down to have it disfigured.
Anyone else feel the same?
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moofish
Living in Scotland, UK
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
PNG is a purely raster format, PNG doesn't support vectors.
You're probably using Fireworks, Fireworks PNG files are not related to "real" PNG files in any way.
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moofish
Living in Scotland, UK
PNG's are much crisper than JPG's. I'm using Freehand, for as long as it is supported. if not PNG's then what would you suggest be a viable replacement for JPG's?
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Stebet
Internet spaceships is serious business3;
PNG are lossless. Give us PNG's. They aren't that big :/
Especially sice the jpg encoder in the .NET framework is utter crap
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Sven Groot
Don't worry... I'm a doctor.
moofish wrote:PNG's are much crisper than JPG's.
That's just because PNG is a lossless codec while JPG is lossy. This also means that for photos JPG is far more efficient than PNG, while PNG is better at diagrams and other stuff that contains large areas of the same colour. -
Sven Groot
Don't worry... I'm a doctor.
Stebet wrote:PNG are lossless. Give us PNG's. They aren't that big :/
Especially sice the jpg encoder in the .NET framework is utter crap
Only if you use the default settings. With some tweaking you can get the quality up drastically. I do it in the Avatar Creator, it's not that hard. -
W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
moofish wrote:PNG's are much crisper than JPG's. I'm using Freehand, for as long as it is supported. if not PNG's then what would you suggest be a viable replacement for JPG's?
Oh sorry, I thought you were using Fireworks (a well-known hybrid Vector/Bitmap program), which saves its files with a PNG extension for some reason.
Well, an alternative to JPEG is JPEG2000
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Stebet
Internet spaceships is serious business3;
Sven Groot wrote:Only if you use the default settings. With some tweaking you can get the quality up drastically. I do it in the Avatar Creator, it's not that hard.
True. But it's still a helluva lot worse than the jpg's Photoshop can create.
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Yeah, I think Fireworks stores all its vector information in the png metadata. You can still use the png as a png, but it ain't a vector image.
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moofish
Living in Scotland, UK
I am concerned about the grey around the avater, I had to change it from the original yellow (which many still have), as JPG's don't support transparencies.
I just don't see how C9 can have PNG's and the people who make it up can't -
moofish
Living in Scotland, UK
Anyway, why not support SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) the future graphic web format
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
moofish wrote:Anyway, why not support SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) the future graphic web format
IE does, with Adobe's optional SVG add-in. Opera works with it too, IIRC.
...as for Mozilla and Gecko, *cough*, well there's been a massive flamewar on their bugzilla entry on it, I'd wait 'till after the merger for Adobe to release something that works.
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ZippyV
Fired Up
Link, LINK!W3bbo wrote:
moofish wrote: Anyway, why not support SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics) the future graphic web format
IE does, with Adobe's optional SVG add-in. Opera works with it too, IIRC.
...as for Mozilla and Gecko, *cough*, well there's been a massive flamewar on their bugzilla entry on it, I'd wait 'till after the merger for Adobe to release something that works.
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moofish
Living in Scotland, UK
Support or not, the whole point of this thread was that standard C9 avatars are PNG's so why can't the ones uploaded be that too, and not restricted to JPG's.
My gripe still stands.
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
moofish wrote:Support or not, the whole point of this thread was that standard C9 avatars are PNG's so why can't the ones uploaded be that too, and not restricted to JPG's.
My gripe still stands.
Send an email to Adam Kinney or Charles then.
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Maurits
AKA Matthew van Eerde
Or start a wiki petition for PNG avatars... see who you can get to sign it.
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
Maurits wrote:Or start a wiki petition for PNG avatars... see who you can get to sign it.
Remember this?
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Tensor
Im in yr house upgrading yr family
Best petition ever.
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