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		<description><![CDATA[<p>So in my efforts to get a job with Microsoft I'm going to back away from learning Visual C# .NET exclusively and learn C&#43;&#43; (I think this might be the best way to go). I wanted to know however because I picked up the book C&#43;&#43; for Dummies (Yeah I know...)
 and they have Dev C&#43;&#43; on the disk and wondered if that was a pretty good compiler?<br>
<br>
If this book I have (I also have Visual C&#43;&#43; .NET Step by Step) isn't any good...someone want to recommend some beginner -&gt; Intermediate -&gt; Advance books/webpages?</p>]]></description>
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<div class="quoteAuthor">eric_schmidt wrote:</div>
<div class="quoteBody">And they STILL haven't implemented partial template specialization.</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Wrong, VC supports partial template specialization as of VC7.1 (aka VC2003).</p>]]></description>
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<div>Cybermagellan wrote:</div>
<div>So in my efforts to get a job with Microsoft I'm going to back away from learning Visual C# .NET exclusively and learn C&#43;&#43; (I think this might be the best way to go). I wanted to know however because I picked up the book C&#43;&#43; for Dummies (Yeah I know...)
 and they have Dev C&#43;&#43; on the disk and wondered if that was a pretty good compiler?</div>
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<br>
Now there's a topic bound to create flamewars. <img src='http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-1.gif' alt='Smiley' /><br>
<br>
Dev C&#43;&#43; afaik is not a compiler but an IDE for g&#43;&#43;. G&#43;&#43; is an excellent compiler, so is VC7.1 and up (both available free).<br>
<br>
I'd just recommend staying as far away from Borland as you can. In my experience both their compiler
<em>and</em> their IDE suck.</p>]]></description>
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<div>Beer28 wrote:</div>
<div>I vote for g&#43;&#43;<br>
<br>
BTW, it's a lower case g, unix names are lower case by default.<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I know, but, start of the sentence and proper grammar and all.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>cool, so in essence I am using a highly recommended compiler and don't have to worry about it?</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Dev C&#43;&#43; is a great IDE with a great compiler.<br>
<br>
If you want the best of the best, get the intel compiler and VS.<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>Borland C&#43;&#43; doesn't suck, My school doesn't even touch VC&#43;&#43; except if you ask for it because it isnt ANSI Compliant..It's Borland C&#43;&#43; or DevC&#43;&#43;..DevC&#43;&#43; uses the GCC Compiler..I think..that gotta be one of the best out there</div>
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<br>
I've had to use Borland C&#43;&#43; 5 when dealing with a project that required it. Besides being a terribly&nbsp;slow compiler with a dreadful optimizer that can't compile Boost normally without all kinds of Internal Compiler Errors, and a GUI that after a month of using
 it I still couldn't stomach, I didn't have any issues with it.<br>
<br>
VC6 is not a good C&#43;&#43; compiler, I'll readily admit that. It predates the standard and its compliancy sucks. VC7.1 and VC8 are some of the most standards compliant compilers on the planet though. Of course, if compliancy is your number one concern, Comeau is
 the undisputed winner, being the <em>only</em> compiler in existence that implements 100% of the C&#43;&#43; standard,
<em>and</em> the C99 standard to boot.<br>
<br>
<blockquote>
<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>VC&#43;&#43; 6 didn't even have a IDE! </div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Where did you get that idea? VC has had an IDE since version 1.</p>]]></description>
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<div>Sven Groot wrote:</div>
<div><br>
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<td><strong>javamaker wrote:</strong><i>VC&#43;&#43; 6 didn't even have a IDE! </i></td>
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<br>
Where did you get that idea? VC has had an IDE since version 1.</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Hence the &quot;V&quot;<br></p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>what's G&#43;&#43;?<br>
<br>
the GCC C&#43;&#43; compiler?</p>]]></description>
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<div>Nata1 wrote:</div>
<div>what's G&#43;&#43;?<br>
<br>
the GCC C&#43;&#43; compiler?</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Yup:<br>
GCC = GNU C Compiler or GNU Compiler Collection<br>
G&#43;&#43; = GNU C&#43;&#43; Compiler<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>It's not Visual, I forgot what video had it but I think it was the C# team saying I needed something Visual..I bought Visual C&#43;&#43; and it wasn't anything Visual...<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
I believe Visual C&#43;&#43; does include a command-line C&#43;&#43; compiler <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndeepc/html/deep05282002.asp">
cl.exe</a><br></p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Intel's compilers are very good. But they're not cheap.<br>
<br>
GCC/G&#43;&#43; is a very good compiler, but does not produce code as well-optimized as Intel's.<br>
<br>
Microsoft's compiler is good, but not stellar.<br>
<br>
For c-language compilers, those are the big three. Intel's compiler and GCC are both portable, and Intel made theirs gcc-compatible as well. Microsoft's compiler is, of course, not portable.<br>
<br>
<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>Cybermagellan wrote:</div>
<div>
<p>cool, so in essence I am using a highly recommended compiler and don't have to worry about it?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Worry about what?<br>
<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>Cairo wrote:</div>
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<td><strong>Cybermagellan wrote:</strong> <i>
<p>cool, so in essence I am using a highly recommended compiler and don't have to worry about it?</p>
</i></td>
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</tbody>
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<br>
<br>
Worry about what?<br>
<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Well I was under the impression that when you build the compiler adds extra header info or something similar to that. I just want to make sure that I use one that is complient with any standards and doesn't thow all kinda useless into my project.</p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>well VC&#43;&#43; isn't known to be Compliant....60% compliant..maybe<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
More&nbsp;like 98% compliant.<br>
<br>
Do your research.</p>]]></description>
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<div>Beer28 wrote:</div>
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<td><strong>pikatung wrote:</strong> <i>
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<td><strong>javamaker wrote:</strong> <i>well VC&#43;&#43; isn't known to be Compliant....60% compliant..maybe<br>
</i></td>
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<br>
More&nbsp;like 98% compliant.<br>
<br>
Do your research.</i></td>
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<br>
<br>
what about all the fstream stuff they ripped out?<br>
That compiler was about as compliant as a frozen popsicle. I still use it today for old customers.<br>
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<br>
<strong>Q: </strong>BradJones : VC&#43;&#43; is 98% compliant with the standard. What is the 2% that isn't compliant?
<p><b>A: </b>Brad the major features we are missing exception specifications, 2 phase name lookup and export<br>
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/transcripts/vstudio/vstudio_061203.aspx">http://msdn.microsoft.com/chats/transcripts/vstudio/vstudio_061203.aspx</a><br>
<br>
The C&#43;&#43; product will be 98 percent compliant with ISO, according to Microsoft.<br>
<a href="http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/11/08/021108hnoopsla.html">http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/02/11/08/021108hnoopsla.html</a><br>
<br>
Even more important, Hodapp says that the new version of Visual C&#43;&#43; conforms to the ISO C&#43;&#43; specification at around the 98 percent level, which is a huge improvement over previous versions. The current version of Visual C&#43;&#43;.NET is only 90 percent conforming,
 said Hodapp.<br>
<a href="http://www.devx.com/cplus/Article/9937">http://www.devx.com/cplus/Article/9937</a><br>
<br>
Microsoft said its C&#43;&#43; compiler had been around 90 percent compliant with the standard. The Everett release will bring that closer to 98 percent, said Nick Hodapp, a Microsoft product manager.<br>
<a href="http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-965046.html">http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-965046.html</a><br>
<br>
Summary-<br>
VC&#43;&#43; 6 and prior sucked at conformance<br>
VC&#43;&#43; .NET had about 90% conformance<br>
VC&#43;&#43; 2003 (and it seems 2005 also) has about 98% conformance<br>
<br>
Need I google for more links?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
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<td><strong>Beer28 wrote:</strong><i>
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<td><strong>pikatung wrote:</strong><i>
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<td><strong>javamaker wrote:</strong><i>well VC&#43;&#43; isn't known to be Compliant....60% compliant..maybe<br>
</i></td>
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<br>
More&nbsp;like 98% compliant.<br>
<br>
Do your research.</i></td>
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<br>
what about all the fstream stuff they ripped out?<br>
That compiler was about as compliant as a frozen popsicle. I still use it today for old customers.<br>
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<br>
he means the new VC&#43;&#43;.NET I think, not the old VC&#43;&#43; 6..no one should use Managed C&#43;&#43;.. if they do they should quit their job. it's not Stroustrup baby. Native C&#43;&#43; is.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Here is one article saying it is 98 percent complient:<br>
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/05/VisualC2005/">http&#58;&#47;&#47;msdn.microsoft.com&#47;msdnmag&#47;issues&#47;04&#47;05&#47;VisualC2005&#47;</a><br>
<br>
There are more if you google it.<br>
Oh yeah, your article talks about 7.0, that is VC&#43;&#43; 2002, 2003 is much better.<br>
<br>
&nbsp;In terms of the IDE I think that VS is unmatched. I wish they had something as good as it on Linux.<br>
<br>
At the OP:<br>
Dev-Cpp is an IDE for Mingw which is a windows port of g&#43;&#43;. I used to use it and the compiler is fine and the IDE, while not as good as VS is quite good for almost everything. If you feel like using the MS C&#43;&#43; compiler then get Codeblocks, you can use it with
 that compiler as well as the mingw one. I also prefer the IDE to Dev-Cpp.<br>
<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>doesn't even say anything about ANSI..plus it's microsoft saying they're product is compliant<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
ANSI has the same standard as ISO.<br>
And for other articles, look at the post above yours, he linked to some good ones.<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>Cairo wrote:</div>
<div>Intel's compilers are very good. But they're not cheap.<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
The Linux version of icc is free for non-commercial use.<br>
<br></p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>doesn't even say anything about ANSI..plus it's microsoft saying they're product is compliant<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
ANSI is ISO.<br>
<p>After years of work, a joint <a title="American National Standards Institute" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_Institute">
ANSI</a>-<a title="International Organization for Standardization" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization">ISO</a> committee standardized C&#43;&#43; in
<a title="1998" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998">1998</a> (<i><a title="ISO/IEC 14882" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_14882">ISO/IEC 14882</a>:1998</i>). For some years after the official release of the standard in 1998, the committee processed
 defect reports, and published a corrected version of the C&#43;&#43; standard in 2003.<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_plus_plus">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_plus_plus</a><br>
<br>
And what good for them to lie? It is something that can easily be tested, and all test results prove, rather than disprove their claim.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://engineering.meta-comm.com/boost-regression/CVS-HEAD/developer/summary.html">http://engineering.meta-comm.com/boost-regression/CVS-HEAD/developer/summary.html</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~malloy/projects/ddj2/ddj2.html">http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~malloy/projects/ddj2/ddj2.html</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dinkumware.com/conform_cpp.html">http://www.dinkumware.com/conform_cpp.html</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dv_vstechart/html/conformance.asp">http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dv_vstechart/html/conformance.asp</a><a href="http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp?HeadlineIndex=23885"></a></p></p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div>so you can use VC&#43;&#43; IDE with Intel's C&#43;&#43; Compiler?<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, in fact the compiler will integrate into the IDE.<br>
<br>
<li><b>Compatibility:</b> Utilize source and object native-code <a href="http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/compilers/cwin/219652.htm#compatibility">
compatibility</a> with Microsoft Visual C&#43;&#43; and Visual Studio* .NET to maximize performance. The compiler integrates with the Visual C&#43;&#43; environment for easy application development.
<p><a href="http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/compilers/cwin/index.htm">http://www.intel.com/cd/software/products/asmo-na/eng/compilers/cwin/index.htm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/21/92/219282_cpp_win_compatible_vcpp.pdf">http://cache-www.intel.com/cd/00/00/21/92/219282_cpp_win_compatible_vcpp.pdf</a></p>
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<div>Cybermagellan wrote:</div>
<div>If this book I have (I also have Visual C&#43;&#43; .NET Step by Step) isn't any good...someone want to recommend some beginner -&gt; Intermediate -&gt; Advance books/webpages?</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
Here are some books that I found to be very useful:<br>
<br>
The C&#43;&#43; Programming Language, Special Edition (Bjarne Stroustrup)<br>
C&#43;&#43; Primer (Stan Lppman (et al))<br>
Exceptional C&#43;&#43; (Herb Sutter)<br>
C&#43;&#43; Coding Standards : Rules, Guidelines, and Best Practices (Herb Sutter, Andrei Alexandrescu)<br>
Modern C&#43;&#43; Design: Applied Generic and Design Patterns (Andrei Alexandrescu)</p>]]></description>
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<td><strong>eric_schmidt wrote:</strong> <i>And they STILL haven't implemented partial template specialization.</i></td>
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Wrong, VC supports partial template specialization as of VC7.1 (aka VC2003).</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
If you only want a command-line compiler and can live without the version 7.1 MFC and ATL libraries, you can download the
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/">Visual C&#43;&#43; Toolkit 2003</a>.</p>]]></description>
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<div>Mike Dimmick wrote:</div>
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<td><strong>Sven Groot wrote:</strong> <i>
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<td><strong>eric_schmidt wrote:</strong> <i>And they STILL haven't implemented partial template specialization.</i></td>
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<br>
Wrong, VC supports partial template specialization as of VC7.1 (aka VC2003).</i></td>
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If you only want a command-line compiler and can live without the version 7.1 MFC and ATL libraries, you can download the
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/" target="_blank">Visual C&#43;&#43; Toolkit 2003</a>.
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
I never understood the modern-day fascination with downloading free, yet hopelessly crippled, command line compilers for the Windows platform...especially if you are going to develop any type of Windows app on your own (and not at work).&nbsp; For console apps,
 sure I understand...but for anything with a graphical interface it seems like a lot of extra work.<br>
<br>
Fwiw, I used to be somewhat of a proponent of Borland C&#43;&#43; Builder, but they have this weird tendency to tie in VCL code (Pascal) in different places.&nbsp; I picked up C&#43;&#43; Builder 6, Personal Edition, but it was pretty disappointing...the sample tutorials either
 did not exist, the one tutorial that did exist was difficult to follow (when it did not have to be that way), and some of the help screen diagrams were gone.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Like, vital class heirarchy diagrams.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
For their funky VCL/C&#43;&#43; hybrid infrastructure.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I think they have moved to building the IDE in Java now, adding to the fun.<br>
<br>
At times, I actually missed working with Turbo C&#43;&#43; 3.0 after that.</p>]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>I have used VC&#43;&#43; since version 1 so that is my preference.&nbsp; I find Visual Studios IDE to be the easiest and most friendly (but that may be because that is what I am used to).&nbsp; I also only develop Windows apps so really my choice is simple.</p>]]></description>
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<div>javamaker wrote:</div>
<div><br>
VC&#43;&#43; 6 didn't even have a IDE! <br>
</div>
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<br>
<br>
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<div>Mike Dimmick wrote:</div>
<div><br>
If you only want a command-line compiler and can live without the version 7.1 MFC and ATL libraries, you can download the
<a target="_blank" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/">Visual C&#43;&#43; Toolkit 2003</a>.<br>
</div>
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<br>
<br>
Oh... the penny drops... javamaker must have been talking about the command-line version of Visual C&#43;&#43;.&nbsp; Which really isn't &quot;visual&quot; at all, true enough.<br></p>]]></description>
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 apps for Windows.&nbsp; Borland is OUT, I gave up on them since Visual C&#43;&#43; 1.52c (The last version to do Win32s).&nbsp; I don't mind paying $100 to $150, but $400 is almost a new computer. <img src='http://ecn.channel9.msdn.com/o9/content/images/emoticons/emotion-7.gif' alt='Perplexed' /><br>
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