Check it out 250 hours of PDC videos
http://microsoft.sitestream.com/PDC05/ ![]()
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C'mon Beer, you've got a Windows box there. Do it yourself.Beer28 wrote:BTW, none of these work on firefox on linux, could you please provide download links instead. thx.
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Beer28 wrote:I thought you guys were charging $500 for the dvd's???
Aren't you going to lose all that revenue now? Or didn't they sell any?
They announced weeks ago (I posted it here at the time) that they would be available online for a period of 6 months for free. Bandwidth isn't free and at the end of the day you decide whether the time and bandwidth you're going to spend downloading gigabytes worth of material is worth $500. Makes sense to me. -
Microsoft is not about selling the 500$ DVDs
Putting up the content for free is good and most people will probably download few slides and demos, but in the end having a media (the 3-dvd set) is better if you are going to heavily use the labs, videos,
presentations.on other note, the Hands-On-Labs are also made available now ... Tim Sneath posted all the latest links (Avalon, Workflow, Atlas, LinQ, etc). hopefully they'll have others up as welll (I saw some Vista ones but don't know the links now... I have them downloaded though).
http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2005/10/24/484495.aspx
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jonathanh wrote:
C'mon Beer, you've got a Windows box there. Do it yourself.
Beer28 wrote: BTW, none of these work on firefox on linux, could you please provide download links instead. thx.
ZOMG! Jonathanh I love you...
Beer28, quit expecting everyone to kiss your rear because you ask for it. Deal with the incompatibility...remember you chose it.
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BTW: 9 MB/s down connection with no cap here...if one of the MS employees clears it I'll be more than willing to download and burn to DVD for the people here on dial up.
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Ernie or Jonathanh,
Can you guys provide one huge download link? It's kinda getting annoying to download, move to the next one, download again, move, download, move...etc -
This doesn't work in firefox, and John while I respect you, and hate Beer, you have to respect that there are other browsers on the market. You guys at microsoft should take a lesson from the XBOX 360 team which wants to play correctly with both apple and sony produsts to let consumers enjoy their media everywhere.
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DevilsRejection wrote:This doesn't work in firefox, and John while I respect you, and hate Beer, you have to respect that there are other browsers on the market.
No he doesn't
Use IE
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Wouldn't bittorrent be a better solution to host these videos? That would avoid browser incomptibilites and in theory cheapen the cost of hosting. -
Because there's just so much content to download (and everything is exciting!), I did this:
1. Use file-save for the webpage and its files
2. Modified the html/xml schema a bit so that I can render the xml (the listing of session is xml if you didnt figure it out by now) locally on my hdd.
3. Using flashget (download manager) to download the ppts instead of IE (limit of #of downloads at a time).
Hopefully the content is not more than 3 DVDs, or else i'll need another HDD
Where's the torrent files when you need it! Ah, next year I see myself using P2P in Vista for all these things
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If someone does let me know...I'll be downloading everything there.
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Hi all, glad to see the interest in the videos.
re: FireFox: this is news to me, I will ask our vendor to look into it (we didn't develop any of the HTML in house)
re bulk downloads: The default package for MS events has been to put up videos for streaming, and then make the DVD available for those who want to watch offline. I can look into why that's the case and whether we can support making the video files available for download.
re cost: in the past, we have charged attendees for ordering the post-show DVD. The PDC planning team talked about it this year, and decided to make the DVD set available for free to all attendees. Non-attendees are able to buy a copy if they wish.
cheers,
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jonathanh wrote:... you've got a Windows box there. Do it yourself.
I'm pretty worried about this attitude. Is MS pushing their own "for Windows only"
technologies for web-developing? Like XAML/Avalon.
Detroit Muscle wrote:
Wouldn't bittorrent be a better solution to host these videos? That would avoid browser incomptibilites and in theory cheapen the cost of hosting.
Agreed. Using BT is excellent great idea ...
But I'm pretty sure that it isn't going to happen
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Here's the XML database for the sessions
http://microsoft.sitestream.com/PDC05/images/Sessions.xml
and one of its row looks like this:
<row>
<Code>ARCSYM01</Code>
<Title>
Architecture Symposium: Connected Business, Connected Systems
</Title>
<Speakers>Harry Pierson; Mike Burner; Brenton Webster</Speakers>
<Track>SYM</Track>
<Description>
You’ve had a tantalizing week of cool technology, but now you need to transition back to your real job: making all of the pieces work together. The PDC Architecture Symposium will zoom you through the solutions lifecycle - from requirements to modeling to requirements to iterative development to requirements to operational feedback (which you might look at as another set of requirements) - showing you how traditional best practices and recent innovations can be used together to build robust solutions that accelerate business value creation. Topics include:
</Description>
<PPTDeck>ARCSYM01_Pierson.ppt</PPTDeck>
<Materials/>
<Disk>DVD 4</Disk>
</row>
Somebody could write an auto downloader based on this & have the 4 DVDs downloaded without much trouble (though with much bandwidth).
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I was giving back to Beer some of the attitude that he so frequently hands out around here.Erisan wrote:
I'm pretty worried about this attitude. Is MS pushing their own "for Windows only" technologies for web-developing? Like XAML/Avalon.
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jonathanh wrote:I was giving back to Beer some of the attitude that he so frequently hands out around here.
Ah ok, sorry my English is really bad and I don't always understand posts
100% which usually leads to stupid replies.
Hmm, actually I'll ask the question again. Should I be worried that maybe
after few years there are more and more web pages which are using tech.
like XAML/Avalon ..? I think those can be used in web pages too, but are
there any intension encourage to use them .. ?
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What about using Wine, Beer? Didn't they just come out with version 0.9?
Beer28 wrote:PS- I'm now trashing my microsoft MN-700 router.
Can we get some footage of that? Are you using a ball peen hammer or the subtle art of recursion?
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