Is today the day for VS2005 on MSDN?: Part 2

Inspired by yesterday's thread, hopefully today is the day.

Man K hope so. Does anyone know of a good site that compares the versions? Does standard have the Class Designer?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vs2005/editions/team/compare/

I can't confirm this, but I was just told that VS 2005 will be online for MSDN universal subscriptions on friday.

Apparently server load balancing issues are causing this, as releasing it on the weekend will allow for the crush on the servers to be minimized and will impact the least number of customers(not everyone will be downloading VS 2005).   

That's the latest I'm hearing, but again....this isn't official and is subject to change... 

WTF

This is starting to get annoying.  I wish they wouldn't have said anything to start, no 10/14, no nothing.  When official Microsoft people begin to tell us hopeful dates for anything, people start to plan around those days because you would expect them to have a clue for when the product will be available.  Then it turns out we might be looking at 3 weeks after the original plan to release RTM on 10/14.  I know it's all hopeful targets, etc, but say nothing at all if your target date is as subject to change as we've seen over the past 2 weeks.

I agree with CompiledMonkey.

I'm irritated now.  Microsoft - please throw us a bone guys.  We're incredibly interested in the release... it's not that we need the RTM today or tomorrow, or next week.  We just like news!  We've been following the project for a long long time, and now we can smell it.  But we havent heard anything about whats going on.  I vote we get a running  update, good, bad or whatever!

News please?

Ya....The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Microsoft is large, really large.

I guess if anything, everyone should realize that the same thing is going to happen with Vista...Don't believe every date that is bantered around...Releases always slip to some degree.

Lastly, I've also heard that Ascend and TAP customers have (or will have) access to the RTM verison of VS2005 before MSDN universal subscribers.

http://www.longhornblogs.com/robert/archive/2005/10/26/15087.aspx

Quan To, who runs the VS2005 Setup Issues and Workarounds Blog, informs us of the final build numbers for Visual Studio 2005 and .NET 2.0.

• VS2005 = 8.0.50727.42
• .NET Framework 2.0 = 2.0.50727.42

That matches up with what my sources told me two weeks ago when I was investigating rumors about build numbers and early releases. I'd expect .NET 2.0, VS2005, and SQL Server 2005 to go gold (RTM) any day now. Say that happens before the end of the week... then I'd expect RTM builds available for download on MSDN before the end of next week. While some people have said that we'd be able to download it on October 14th (come and gone... no bits), I'm not anticipating any more than a 72 hour head-start before the Monday, Nov. 7, 2005 launch date.

Can't wait to get access to the RTM bits. Hopefully, lots of MS teams building frameworks for the Vista wave will start releasing bits compatible with the RTM build soon.

Zeo wrote:

that Ascend and TAP customers ...

Premier Customers who provide really valuable feedback early on...Think of large Microsoft partners(like IBM, Accenture, EDS). TAP(Technical Adoption Program) I believe.  

Anyone want to wager a guess as to how many servers are in the farm that we are waiting for replication on? Just curious. Anyway, thanks far the news:B

I'll wager 200-300 globally.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm still getting good work done with VS2003. Not that I'm not excited about VS2005, I've been waiting for generics since before 2003, but because it's been so long coming my product is nearly done in .NET1.1 and that'll probably have to be supported for at least a year, so interest in 2005 is largely accademic for now.

Of course, everything I do is productive and in VS.NET 2003, therefore I'm getting productive work done in VS.NET 2003.

My interest is for upcoming projects.  I just had 5 new projects, all very similar, come through and I would have loved to get them on the 2.0 framework.  Not because of 2.0 language enhancements, but for future maintenence.  In a few months I expected to be in 2.0 land for everything, but now I'll have to keep 1.1 around to support these new projects.  With the recent events over the past 2 weeks, my 2.0 fun, related to work at least, won't begin until early next year probably.

Will you be able to run VS2005 and VS2003 side by side?

Any more news or gossip surrounding the release?  Anyone?

At last report, the Visual Studio dev team was being told to "bear down and PUSH," and Bill Gates was seen nervously pacing in the waiting room.