If you think implementing SVG in a browser is difficult... ask Andrew Girrow from TinyLine how he managed to implement the SVG Mobile 1.2 spec all by himself? By the way, there is a applet available from his site that you can plug into your site to allow users to view SVG Mobile on your site..... but your visitors using IE will probably not have Java supported....... If the IE team one day decides to stop swimming upstream, then live could become much easier for us developers. In the meantime..... I vote for Opera