shooby wrote:
Stolen for $50,000.
stolen? Ah the quality of the gnu dictionary. Someone changed the meaning when no-one was looking...
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shooby wrote:
Stolen for $50,000.
shooby wrote:
...tell you what, sell me your house for $1, then tell me I didnt steal it.
Not to attack or belittle Microsoft in any way - but for our own entertainment... What is the worst Microsoft product or service you ever
owned?
And on a slightly more up-beat note, what Microsoft product far exceeded your
expectations?
And lastly, what is, in your opinion, the highest quality Microsoft product that does what it said it would do?
Note: Meaning if you didn't own Microsoft Bob you can't name it as the worst product or service - Own, to our Chinese friends also means downloaded and used.
And also don't fuse your expectations with it actually being the BEST product. Something doesn't have to be wonderful for it to be better than expected.
This entire thread is 100% objective and I'd be most interested to here WHY you think whatever you think.
Manip wrote:Not to attack or belittle Microsoft in any way - but for our own entertainment... What is the worst Microsoft product or service you ever owned?
Manip wrote:And on a slightly more up-beat note, what Microsoft product far exceeded your expectations?
Manip wrote:And lastly, what is, in your opinion, the highest quality Microsoft product that does what it said it would do?
worst product, well, theres lots that were bad that all kind of fit in that basket - ME would have to have caused me the most headaches handsdown though (what was I thinking using that on business workstation)...
quite a few far exceeded my expectations - such as qbasic (the free one that came with dos and began my career in app development when I was just a wee lad) and all their wireless keyboard/mice work awesomely for me even on just ONE battery! (still freaks me
out how a device can work with a battery missing)...
Server 2003 SBS would have to be the best product I've had the joy to use, though those new VB.Express / SQL Express have really raised my eyebrows and might just take the win (and their FREE!)
Worst MS product would have to be the crap 'Microsoft' baseball cap I got with my student subscription (about a million years ago now).. it was black with a hugh 'Microsoft' logo on the front... rarest thing I've ever had the unfortunate privilege
of owning.
Software wise.. Win98 & WinME sucked, and I'm not too fond of the old SQL2k ent manager
Fav program would be Visual Studio
Worst MS product: Definately Windows ME.
Best product: I gotta say Flight Simulator. I've played that game since it was played on a black/green screen. And even then it kicked (I need to watch my language). However, a close runner-up is the newly aquired foldershare. What a brilliant concept.
Highest quality product:Since I'm a professionel developer, Visual Studio and the .NET platform immidiatley comes to mind. But the office products, especially excel and word, are also very good candidates.
I have never "owned" a Microsoft product. I have "licensed" it. ![]()
Manip wrote:What is the worst Microsoft product or service you ever owned?
Manip wrote:And on a slightly more up-beat note, what Microsoft product far exceeded your expectations?
Manip wrote:
And lastly, what is, in your opinion, the highest quality Microsoft product that does what it said it would do?
Worst product I actually owned... I had one of the early versions of FrontPage. Packaged with an Office installation probably. Was a shocking shocking product.
But I dare say if I had ever been a lucky owner of MS Bob then Bob would have been it.
Their best product that I use... Sql Server 2000 (err ignoring Enterprise Manager but incl Query Analyzer). Hard as nails that thing. You could go to the moon and back with it.
MS Barney comes in a close second.
I actually struggled to think of a product that *really* sucked - I mean, I didn't enjoy VB3 much, but it was still an important product that my former employer's business was dependent on. I did however port their code to VB5 at the first opportunity
I had.
Then it struck me - Exchange Server 5. That was something I really struggled with. We bought a server from Dell with Microsoft Small Business Server edition on it. That was basically NT4 Server with restricted versions of SQL Server, Exchange and a few other
things. Everything else was fine, but Exchange 5 really did crash a lot, the tools for managing it were minimal. And we had less than 10 users - god only knows what it's like when you have hundreds on it. I assume Exchange 2k and later are better (in the same
was SQL7 was way better than what came before), but I left the company before that server was upgraded.
Thing I love best is everything .NET really. The smartest thing MS ever did.
Simo wrote:Worst product I actually owned... I had one of the early versions of FrontPage. Packaged with an Office installation probably. Was a shocking shocking product.
Simo wrote:But I dare say if I had ever been a lucky owner of MS Bob then Bob would have been it.
Their best product that I use... Sql Server 2000 (err ignoring Enterprise Manager but incl Query Analyzer). Hard as nails that thing. You could go to the moon and back with it.
Simo wrote:MS Barney comes in a close second.
Manip wrote:Not to attack or belittle Microsoft in any way - but for our own entertainment... What is the worst Microsoft product or service you ever owned?
Manip wrote:
And on a slightly more up-beat note, what Microsoft product far exceeded your expectations?
Manip wrote:
And lastly, what is, in your opinion, the highest quality Microsoft product that does what it said it would do?
I can say Bob!
Still have the box and original media.
No, I did not buy it. It was a giveaway at some store contest.
For that matter, forgive my showing off, I also have Windows 2 with original package and media. That was pretty bad, too.
As for the best, I'd say either Windows 2003 Server or, as said above, Flight Sim 2004.
KosherCoder wrote:For that matter, forgive my showing off, I also have Windows 2 with original package and media. That was pretty bad, too.
This one is pretty bad...

Does Windows Media Player class as a product? Because I can't find anything which is worse, besides IE.
One thing that exceeded my expectations was the speed at which the Classic UI theme runs on XP, and how nice it looks compared to XP's default theme.
Worst: F***Page (enough said! Thank goodness they're finally putting it out of its misery) although Internet Explorer (especially if we're talking printing) comes pretty close.
Best: SQL Server 2000. Solid as a rock. (Boy have they screwed up management with the sloooooooow Management Studio replacement for Enterprise Manager).
Sadly, I think most Microsoft products rate as "poor" as in buggy as hell or "How the hell did this get past QA?". These days the answer seems to be "Let's not worry about shipping one product. We'll ship endless dribs and drabs over the internet as and when
we finish testing them". A step backwards in my view and a nightmare to control and keep track of.
And I still don't understand how you can have a "market leader" product used by millions all over the world that can't even count the number of pages in a document properly (How often have you seen "Page 95 of 93" in a Word document footer!) or can seemingly
at random print a big red cross where the image in the document shown on screen should be?
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