VS.Net 2005 - Has VS.Net usability jumped the shark.

During my usual early evening trawl around my newsfeeds I found this post from Brendan Tompkins.

Brendan Tompkins wrote:

Now, I have all kinds of thoughts relating to this and how we’ve made things too complex in the .NET software development world, and in the world of computing in general, and how we’ve forgotten about ease of use

• It's slow.
• I can't easily find my files.
• They've removed features that I used.

It is a little slower, but that has to be expected from a much more complex application. However, the productivity enhancements from snippets and an application of IntelliSense at a much deeper level more than compensate for the increased startup time.

I usually customize the hell out of my toolbars, so I have basically the same layout between 2003 and 2005 and I can't find any missing commands...

I just want to say one thing to the developers of VS2005:

Websites *ARE* projects!

When they release VS2005 SP1, I really want them to add an option to move the Website items back into the New Project dialog.

W3bbo wrote:

I just want to say one thing to the developers of VS2005:

Websites *ARE* projects!

When they release VS2005 SP1, I really want them to add an option to move the Website items back into the New Project dialog.

PerfectPhase wrote:

Really hated that at first, but don't have a problem with it now I've go used to it, in fact I quite like it.

The main thing I really want is a native project type for libraries of web user controls that can be directly referenced from web sites (i.e. single fixed name assembly)

A little slower?

Try doing a WinForms app!!! It's hideous with any good sized form!!!

Brutal betaware.

I most certainly like VS2005, and the fact that recently my last remaining ASP.NET 1.1 webhost upgraded to 2.0 means that finally I can stop installing two versions of VS which just costs way too much time (especially since I have VS2003 on CD so I can't walk away while installing it, and I have the upgrade so I need VS2002 CD1 at hand as well, plus I have to install .Net 1.1, VS2003, .Net 1.1 SP1, .Net 1.1 security update, VS2003 GDI+ update, MSDN documatation update, it was just very annoying).

Despite some other minor bugs, there's only one thing I don't understand and hate about VS2005, and that is regular expressions in the IDE. That's just completely, totally, utterly broken. When dealing with a multiline regex search and replace, VS2005 will yield the wrong results and quite frequently even crash completely. I don't understand how this couldn't have been caught; the only way not to notice it is to never use regexes in the IDE.

The slower performance is unacceptable for me. I recently worked on some phase2 work for a .net 1.1 project. While upgrading to 2.0 was discussed we could not find the value in doing so.

I do understand that vs2005 is a very complex product but for me it is just a small piece in a complete enterprise package I have to deliver. It is not worth the frustration since I can achieve the same results with vs2003 and .net 1.1.

If you are unsatisfied with VS2005, then use SharpDevelop 2.0 instead:p

Sheva

Words cannot express how annoyed I am with VS 2005 (well they could, but they would be very vulgar and vile)

Every 10 seconds when I'm typing code, or else randomly when I choose to save the code (like one would do), it just freezes, like it is stuck in a bottle neck. It then takes around 7 seconds for control to come back.

It has got so annoying, I feel like throwing my computer out the window.

Imagine, frequently, when you are typing code, the app just freezes.

I was using VSS, until I found my saviour SourceGear SourceVault.
I was soo excited when I first got my copy of 2005, until I saw the disgusting problems in VS 2005.

For example, on both of my machines, when I hit the CSS dialog for websites, the form just popups and closes, almost as if they are not calling it as a model dialog. It never used to happen when I just installed it, but imagine, two machines, wtf!

Lets hope the sp1 for VS2005 will fix some of the horrible bugs present in certain parts, probably not though

edit:

I dont want to be seen that I'm trying to flame, I'm just pointing out my dissatisfaction with the VS 2005 IDE.

yman wrote:

For example, on both of my machines, when I hit the CSS dialog for websites, the form just popups and closes, almost as if they are not calling it as a model dialog. It never used to happen when I just installed it, but imagine, two machines, wtf!

borosen wrote:

yman wrote:For example, on both of my machines, when I hit the CSS dialog for websites, the form just popups and closes, almost as if they are not calling it as a model dialog. It never used to happen when I just installed it, but imagine, two machines, wtf!

Are you by any chance running IE7?

If that is the case, you may want to have a look at a workaround.

yman wrote:

Words cannot express how annoyed I am with VS 2005 (well they could, but they would be very vulgar and vile)

Every 10 seconds when I'm typing code, or else randomly when I choose to save the code (like one would do), it just freezes, like it is stuck in a bottle neck. It then takes around 7 seconds for control to come back.

It has got so annoying, I feel like throwing my computer out the window.

Imagine, frequently, when you are typing code, the app just freezes.

rhm wrote:

yman wrote: Words cannot express how annoyed I am with VS 2005 (well they could, but they would be very vulgar and vile) Every 10 seconds when I'm typing code, or else randomly when I choose to save the code (like one would do), it just freezes, like it is stuck in a bottle neck. It then takes around 7 seconds for control to come back. It has got so annoying, I feel like throwing my computer out the window. Imagine, frequently, when you are typing code, the app just freezes.

Dude, buy some more RAM.

Dude, I have 2 gigs of ram

It doesn't seem to be a ram issue, seems like it is hitting a lock somewhere