I have a question. When I export to PDF from PDF Creator and Office 2003 the file size is 64 kb, same document under OpenOffice 2.0, 98kb. Same document Under Office 2007, 495 kb. What is Office 2007 putting into the documents thats causing 3 to 4 times the file size from the competitors. I will say this much though, the quality of the PDF's are much better than the first release of Office 2007.
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rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
I had a feeling Office 2007's PDF export would be sabotaged in some way; it isn't in Microsoft's interests to make PDF export look attractive. Just so long as it supports it.
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Simo
With me it's a full-time job.
My guess is a tonne of junk in the pdf to round-trip the thing back into Excel/Word
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rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
Thats what I thought, because the quality looks very good especially when you print.
BryanF wrote:Ever the cynic...
Given that this is beta code, it's a bit premature to jump to the conclusion of "sabotage". My guess is that there's a ton of junk that being added in there for debugging purposes. The current release includes a copy of the document in the old binary formats whan saving in the new XML formats for that very reason, so it wouldn't at all be surprising.
How do the exported PDFs look in terms of aesthetic quality and fidelity? -
Ever the cynic...
Given that this is beta code, it's a bit premature to jump to the conclusion of "sabotage". My guess is that there's a ton of junk that being added in there for debugging purposes. The current release includes a copy of the document in the old binary formats when saving in the new XML formats for that very reason, so it wouldn't at all be surprising.
How do the exported PDFs look in terms of aesthetic quality and fidelity?
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
rjdohnert wrote:Thats what I thought, because the quality looks very good especially when you print.
I didn't mean "literally" attractive; I meant "attractive to use". People wanted PDF support without having to shell out £130 for Acrobat (or less for Acrobat Elements), it's not in Microsoft's advantage to make their PDF support chock-full of features, control, and whatnot since it means their own Metro format won't be as popular.
Speaking of which, what's the latest news on Metro anyway?
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Rowan
Look, no errors.
Anyone read the code of a HTML file saved with Word?
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Cybermagellan
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rjdohnert wrote:I have a question. When I export to PDF from PDF Creator and Office 2003 the file size is 64 kb, same document under OpenOffice 2.0, 98kb. Same document Under Office 2007, 495 kb. What is Office 2007 putting into the documents thats causing 3 to 4 times the file size from the competitors. I will say this much though, the quality of the PDF's are much better than the first release of Office 2007.
Well considering OO is crap, I'd use Office 2007s filesize despite what it is packed with...there is probably also some metadata it's adding in preperation for Vista indexing... -
mVPstar
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Simo wrote:My guess is a tonne of junk in the pdf to round-trip the thing back into Excel/Word
Except it doesn't really open back up in Word afaik. -
PDF uses (or can use) a number of compressions schemes for different element types (color, grayscale, and monochrome bitmaps as well as text and vector elements). It can also either embed, subset, or ignore the fints used in the docment you are converting. It sounds as though the compression hasn't been optimized (did you have any graphics in your test doc?) and/or the fonts (or a subset) have been embedded in your PDF.
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