Scientigo owns the patent to XML ?!?

http://www.scientigo.com/innovation/

Scientigo.com wrote:

In addition, Scientigo™ owns patents that address a set of key technical protocols, referred to as XML.(Extensible Mark-up Language), a popular standard used to support the exchange of data over the Internet. These protocols are embedded in software developed by large and small companies, including, for example Microsoft and IBM. Scientigo™ has retained and formed an exceptional intellectual property team that has implemented a comprehensive intellectual property strategy and will assist to secure additional intellectual property protection on its other inventions.

Patents

I'm no patent lawyer, but I'll play one on Channel 9.

Check out the dates of these patents (in order as you listed them)...

November 24, 1998
May 21, 2002
February 4, 2003
April 9, 2002

Over on Wikipedia, here is a snippet of history of XML:

Wikipedia wrote:

The XML Working Group never met face-to-face; the design was accomplished using a combination of email and weekly teleconferences. The major design decisions were reached in twenty weeks of intense work between July and November of 1996. Further design work continued through 1997, and XML 1.0 became a W3C Recommendation on February 10, 1998 .

Scientaco wrote:

Method for modeling, storing, and transferring data in neutral form. The present invention simplifies the data modeling process and simplifies its full dynamic versioning by employing a non-hierarchical, non-integrated structure to the organization of information.

billh wrote:

I'm no patent lawyer, but I'll play one on Channel 9.

Check out the dates of these patents (in order as you listed them)...

November 24, 1998
May 21, 2002
February 4, 2003
April 9, 2002

Over on Wikipedia, here is a snippet of history of XML:

Wikipedia wrote: The XML Working Group never met face-to-face; the design was accomplished using a combination of email and weekly teleconferences. The major design decisions were reached in twenty weeks of intense work between July and November of 1996. Further design work continued through 1997, and XML 1.0 became a W3C Recommendation on February 10, 1998 .

From the fine folks at Scientaco (their first patent):

Scientaco wrote: Method for modeling, storing, and transferring data in neutral form. The present invention simplifies the data modeling process and simplifies its full dynamic versioning by employing a non-hierarchical, non-integrated structure to the organization of information.

Just that piece alone makes me think of file formats like binary, text, etc. Those have been around...how long now? Non-hierarchical? XML is hierarchical (well, it is supposed to be). Looks like somebody trying to cash in to me.

Did some more digging. Even on their own site! Let's start here. The "innovation" page.

http://www.scientigo.com/innovation/

The "innovation" page lists the patents you mentioned (again). When you click on the product links on the product page, they take you nowhere...they are all untagged # signs (bookmarks).

-1 credibility

Off to the Partners page.

http://www.scientigo.com/partners/

Listed partner: Sun Microsystems!

-1 Association

Off to the History page.

http://www.scientigo.com/company/index.php?section=history

Scientaco wrote:

Development of the technology, the foundation of Scientigo™'s unique capabilities, started in the mid 1990s and resulted in four issued patents: No. 5,842,213, No. 6,393,426, No. 6,516,320 and No. 6,370,534. The company has several applications pending and many under development as part of its ongoing licensing strategy.

We are confident these unique, emerging technologies will prove to be key to maintaining our competitive advantage as well as being among the most technologically significant Business Process Improvement tools in the market.

ZDnet wrote:

Patent lawyer Bruce Sunstein, a co-founder of Boston-based Bromberg & Sunstein, viewed Scientigo's patents and concluded that the company will have difficulty in enforcing claims over XML. Sunstein noted that XML is derived from SGML, which dates back to the 1980s. SGML, in turn, is based on computing concepts from the 1960s. If Scientigo's claims were ever litigated, the company would have to address all the prior work on data formats.

"You can wish them good luck if you want, but there is a lot of history this patent will have to deal with, and the fat lady has not finished singing on this one yet," Sunstein said.

billh wrote:

Let's tally that up. That's -4 Credibility, and -1 for Association.

It's crap like this that clogs up the legal system. Constantly.

littleguru wrote:

Hahah... This must be a joke.

XML is a simplified SGML, which is around since the late 70s.

If this is a valid patent I'm going to patent windows: rectangles (or other 2 dimensional space) that can hold complex structures and show them to the user in a clickable way.


The whole patent system is a big JOKE!

http://www.find.com

and tigo serach can't find web site.

http://domainsmagazine.com/exec/view.cgi?archive=1&num=983

Scientigo, Tigo Search - Scien  Tigo


http://carolinanewswire.com/news/News.cgi?database=topstories.db&command=viewone&id=3856&op=t


Reading things I wonder is it technology that was patent that uses XML or XML was patent.

Scientigo say they patent XML

In addition, Scientigo™ owns patents that address a set of key technical protocols, referred to as XML.(Extensible Mark-up Language), a popular standard used to support the exchange of data over the Internet.

New's articles say "patented XML technology"

Scientigo's tigo|search blends artificial intelligence, machine learning, rules-based systems, and patented XML technology to deliver a fast, flexible platform that will enable users of FatWire's Content .........


Either way if someone words it correctly could get a patent on the air we breath and then start to charge money for it. Ohh wait is there not an oxygen bar somerwhere.

They must have been working with Al Gore when he invented the internet!  Too bad he didn't patent it!

wikipedia wrote:

Scientigo is a United States company based in Charlotte, North Carolina that began asserting patent claims over XML technology in 2005. Since the technologies behind XML were almost 20 years old at the time, and the patents were applied for in 1997, Scientigo has been accused of being a patent troll for taking this action.

Joe_Suchy wrote:

They must have been working with Al Gore when he invented the internet!  Too bad he didn't patent it!

I just patented English and am waiting for some pay.  Thinking about doing "==" equal sign and ">" greater then sign next.