Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Is it too late? http://mschnlnine.vo.llnwd.net/d1/Dev/App_Themes/C9/images/feedimage.png Channel 9 Forums - Coffeehouse - Is it too late? http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums Channel 9 keeps you up to date with the latest news and behind the scenes info from Microsoft that developers love to keep up with. From LINQ to SilverLight – Watch videos and hear about all the cool technologies coming and the people behind them. http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums en Sun, 19 May 2013 16:29:18 GMT Sun, 19 May 2013 16:29:18 GMT Rev9 15 -15 -1 Coffeehouse - Is it too late? Given the current state of the WWW and how virtually every single community site concept has already been created (we've got DeviantArt, GFXArtist, Live.fm, PureVolume, MySpace-for-Bands, LiveJournal, just to name a handful) would you say it's too late to start an original website?

But then again, considering the cheap cost of advertising, server rental, and increased venture-capitalist spending, are we seeing the dawning of another .com boom, but this one one started by the indies and not corporate america?

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/188762#188762 Mon, 15 May 2006 23:42:07 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/188762#188762 W3bbo 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/W3bbo/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? There is always something newer and shinier.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/e35c00b2bbbd44fbb24b9deb0161202b#e35c00b2bbbd44fbb24b9deb0161202b Mon, 15 May 2006 23:47:36 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/e35c00b2bbbd44fbb24b9deb0161202b#e35c00b2bbbd44fbb24b9deb0161202b alwaysmc2 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/alwaysmc2/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late?
alwaysmc2 wrote:

There is always something newer and shinier.



Just because something's newer or shinier doesn't mean it'll take off, you have to wean users of an existing system off first. People are still using Windows XP instead of OS-X, for example.[1]

[1]Inflammatory, yes, but you get my point.

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]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/ed87decaa4df475ba0bb9deb0161207f#ed87decaa4df475ba0bb9deb0161207f Tue, 16 May 2006 00:16:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/ed87decaa4df475ba0bb9deb0161207f#ed87decaa4df475ba0bb9deb0161207f JohnAskew 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JohnAskew/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? No, it's never too late. New technologies will arrive and enable you to create something entirely new not possible before, or  drastically improve upon an older concept.

It's just a matter of having the imagination.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/347bf3309ab84432ac359deb016120a8#347bf3309ab84432ac359deb016120a8 Tue, 16 May 2006 00:27:43 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/347bf3309ab84432ac359deb016120a8#347bf3309ab84432ac359deb016120a8 ricodued 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ricodued/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? Of course not.

But your idea has to be good, your implementation excellent, and you have to stick it out. 

Most people fail between those. Usually the last.

It's also false to think that "every single community site concept has already been created."

It is, however, absurd to think that you'll be able to create an entirely original concept. Or hell, you might - but I doubt it will be succesful.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/606c41fed5524f81bcbd9deb0161212b#606c41fed5524f81bcbd9deb0161212b Tue, 16 May 2006 01:14:18 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/606c41fed5524f81bcbd9deb0161212b#606c41fed5524f81bcbd9deb0161212b Michael Griffiths 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Michael Griffiths/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? Some people wanted to close down the U.S. patent office 150 years ago because there was nothing left to invent.

It may not seem obvious or possible now, but, someone will come up with an idea that will turn into the next Google.  That's why "they" are billionaires and "we" aren't.




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Heywood_J wrote:
Some people wanted to close down the U.S. patent office 150 years ago because there was nothing left to invent.

It may not seem obvious or possible now, but, someone will come up with an idea that will turn into the next Google.  That's why "they" are billionaires and "we" aren't.


Like when the Write (spelling?) brothers made the first airplane and people realized "Oh, that is possible.  I didn't think it was." and than all sorts of planes stemmed from that.

All we need is a little insperation.  But that is hard to come by.

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Heywood_J wrote:
Some people wanted to close down the U.S. patent office 150 years ago because there was nothing left to invent.


Cute story, actually fiction. Still, it's quoted almost everywhere....

The point stands, however: new technology enables different ways of doing things.

One key fact to note is that enabling technology never invents interaction; it simply changes it. 

Communicating over distanced turned into letters and then telegraph, then faxes and phones, then email and IM, then video conferencing, and eventually holographic conferencing.

Succesful changes solve problems.

Search is a good example - it solves the problem of finding information in a large collection of poorly organized information, with unreliable data, which is impractical to sort through and organize. Of course, it's just a means to an end - Google's genius was in its advertising.

The "social networking" space is still in its early infancy.

I haven't seen a system that properly implements reputation (which is really the entire point of a social networking system).

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edit: oh come on pRon is not a bad word.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/0b53c454aa5e422c95929deb016121d5#0b53c454aa5e422c95929deb016121d5 Tue, 16 May 2006 04:27:59 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/0b53c454aa5e422c95929deb016121d5#0b53c454aa5e422c95929deb016121d5 harumscarum 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/harumscarum/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? "The best way to predict the future, is to create it.", Alan Kay.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/f5929d7a2ec64f5a9f269deb01612200#f5929d7a2ec64f5a9f269deb01612200 Tue, 16 May 2006 05:27:25 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/f5929d7a2ec64f5a9f269deb01612200#f5929d7a2ec64f5a9f269deb01612200 Tommy Carlier 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/TommyCarlier/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? The european online poker market doesn't seem to be filled yet. At least my pal claimed that, with help of a study he paid for, when he tasked me to write a platform for this crap a week ago.

]]> http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/7aae46882a054ad6a83b9deb0161222a#7aae46882a054ad6a83b9deb0161222a Tue, 16 May 2006 10:13:38 GMT http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/188762-Is-it-too-late/7aae46882a054ad6a83b9deb0161222a#7aae46882a054ad6a83b9deb0161222a Tom Servo 15 http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Tom Servo/Discussions/RSS Coffeehouse - Is it too late? To create a new product or service must balance these three 'simple' rules. 

1) It must be viable
2) It must be capable
3) It must be desirable

It's no guarantee of success but certainly where any good business person should start.

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I did have a pretty good idea for a community 'of sorts', but I never got around to coding the application that would be used as the hub of it.

Also it would be hard to get people to inhabit it.

Angus Higgins

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