"your chosen programming language is not l33t enough"

Why do people insist on having relgious wars about programming languages? Some of my class mates have told me that various projects of mine sucked because of the language they were written in. Apparently it's cool to hate JAVA, C# Standard ML, F# pretty much anything going that's not C/C++. Has anyone else noticed this trend?

Is this merely tunnel vision or resitance to having to learn and understand many different programming languages or is it simply people being unable to accept the mere existance of an alternative point of view as affects many who get involved in OS religious wars?

Well, yeah.  Some people take it too far.
If you want to write a program in Crayon, go right ahead, just don't preach to me about it.

It is something between immaturity and lack of experience.

Unfortunately some people never learn that there is the right tool for the right job. Even in the commercial sector you can find companies producing simple GUI applications in VC++ for no apparent reason, and others hacking Java so it will render their complex graph models.

The ignorant will always outnumber the knowledgeable and or experienced... Your job is to ignore them, and prove your position though the work you produce, not the words you use.

If you are forced to work as a team, and have a strong disagreement over the language and or framework to use then I suggest slowing the discussion down and turning it into a "Good / Bad Points" kind of comparison.

But you yourself could be wrong, so try and not be too set on your choice. Instead try and look at the opposing positions independently, that way you will not trap yourself into supporting the looser.

Often, when confronted, you will find that such people won't be able to backup their choice under even the most modest scrutiny. If that is the case then you have won by default... Assuming of course you can justify the choice you have made.

When I program I dont use any of the common languages. I use a very unknown language called Euphoria. Euphoria is one of those languages that even an "idiot" can learn.


Regards,
Vincent

Do not waste any time on the programming language religious wars.

Learn the languages you need to earn a living and move on.

I like C#, but I need to know VB.NET, JavaScript, ActionScript and Transact-SQL.

Life is too short for this nonsense.

People dislike and resist change. This is really the case in colleges and universities where Java and C++ dominate.  Code in the language you like and have fun!

I don't understand the whole language wars thing anyway. I think it's a waste of time and energy better spent on coding great solutions.

Just my 2 pence.

F# is the best language going today!
If anyone says different, I not only disagree with what he says, but I don't even defend his right to say it!! 

Escamillo wrote:

F# is the best language going today!
If anyone says different, I not only disagree with what he says, but I don't even defend his right to say it!! 

Our team is well versed in multiple .NET languages. We have left a lot of the C/C++ world behind because the tools we use now are quite adequate. So, much of the religious wars have ended. Looking forward to .NET 3.0!

Cheers.
Will

Hi Shershema, I just want to say that I know VB, some C#, a little bit of C, a little bit of Fortran, too. I think it is a matter of picking the right tool for the job and people that use C++ for everything are kind of loopy in my book.

By the way, I'm single, I'm a good coa4k  cook

Edit: fn cat

Personally. I hated college programming.  I personally like .NET and I can tolerate Objective C.  I used to swear by Java until it slowly kept getting worse.  From .NET I work with C#, VB, C++.  Cornelius, are you sure she is a female?

Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:

Hi Shershema, I just want to say that I know VB, some C#, a little bit of C, a little bit of Fortran, too. I think it is a matter of picking the right tool for the job and people that use C++ for everything are kind of loopy in my book.

By the way, I'm single, I'm a good coa4k  cook

Edit: fn cat

Yeah, she is lol, I talk to her a lot

I use a mixture of C# and C++/CLI for my ray tracer.

Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:

Hi Shershema, I just want to say that I know VB, some C#, a little bit of C, a little bit of Fortran, too. I think it is a matter of picking the right tool for the job and people that use C++ for everything are kind of loopy in my book.

By the way, I'm single, I'm a good coa4k  cook

Edit: fn cat

serishema wrote:



Cornelius Ellsonpeter wrote:Hi Shershema, I just want to say that I know VB, some C#, a little bit of C, a little bit of Fortran, too. I think it is a matter of picking the right tool for the job and people that use C++ for everything are kind of loopy in my book. By the way, I'm single, I'm a good coa4k  cook Edit: fn cat

Are you hitting on me?

i was joking

serishema wrote:

i was joking

Technically, it doesn't matter what language you write the application in. Just make sure you optimize your code and write it as neatly as you can to have the best possible execution time.

Hell, JAVA is slow as hell, but if you code it the right way it could work just as well as a .NET app or an native C/C++ app.

These "religious wars" are worthless, and only cause individuals to get their <a$$$> beat.

- Steve