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Bas
It finds lightbulbs.
Says Microsoft through Dina Bass. Also: 93% customer satisfaction and 66% brand awareness (how do they measure that? What does that even mean?)
I have to admit though: those figures don't look bad for an OS that's so late to the party and has so little to offer. So kudos to you, WP7 team.
CKurt
while( ( !succeed=try() ) ) { }
The 2 million is not the number that needs the focus. Because the devices are not in peoples hands.
But the satisfaction rate and brand awareness are up and that is a good thing! Mouth to mouth advertising is stil the best advertising. This is why KINECT is a huge succes, somebody likes it, buys it, invites a friend and the friend loves it to because it just works!
Same with a phone, you buy a new phone and you show it to friend "Look what my awesome new phone can do", and when you are satisfied you will recomend it to others.
Also maybe there might be a "Because it's not apple" thing going on.
DeathByVisualStudio
If we all believed in unicorns and faries the world would be a better place.
Excellent! They have a winner with WP7; now they just have to get it on a tablet -- and fast!
magicalclick
remember the flow
It is quite hard to sell a winph. I have to pay extra due to contact and when I say I want the HTC surround, the girl immediately ask why not Android or iPhone. If I don't have a firm desire on the device. I am sure they would start going thru other devices.
Don't know 2 million is good or not. But I am certainly like my phone a lot.
Not sure why people compare app store size, I have all the useful apps already. And I realize there isn't much need to keep using my phone. What exactly are they doing with their phone?
ZippyV
Fired Up
Let's see how embarrassing the international features are for Windows Phone 7:
http://andrewtechhelp.com/andrews-tech-opinions/115-windows-phone-7-feature-availability-matrix
CKurt
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@ZippyV: Yup it's a shame. Why does america always get stuff first? They clearly know negotiations are hard and time consuming. You have to have people devoted to it in every country! It seems like they start thinking about negotiations in other countries when they have a US breaktrough.
The same is true for many other stuff like MediaRoom IPtv , local content (movies, tv shows,..)
W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
4 hours ago, Bas wrote
Says Microsoft through Dina Bass. Also: 93% customer satisfaction and 66% brand awareness (how do they measure that? What does that even mean?)
I have to admit though: those figures don't look bad for an OS that's so late to the party and has so little to offer. So kudos to you, WP7 team.
93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
magicalclick
remember the flow
35 minutes ago, W3bbo wrote
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93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
Why not? It works nicely for me. And Epic +++ on lack of customization compare to WinMo. Loved to remove AT&T evilware's flawlessly and easily. Not something you can have from WinMo because you will never know what the evilware did to the OS. And with non-replaceable tiles UX, yesssss.
1 hour ago, W3bbo wrote
*snip*
93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
A "strict subset"? I must have missed the memo announcing the release of Office, Xbox Live, Zune, and SkyDrive integration with Android and the iPhone.
W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
1 hour ago, cbae wrote
*snip*A "strict subset"? I must have missed the memo announcing the release of Office, Xbox Live, Zune, and SkyDrive integration with Android and the iPhone.
Defining a "feature" as being "Microsoft's stack offering" doesn't count.
Android and iPhone both have very capable office suites available for them, ditto music players. I don't think Xbox Live integration is big on many people's lists, and said office suites for Android and iPhone support Sharepoint, DropBox, and many other file hosting services.
3 hours ago, W3bbo wrote:
*snip*
93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
@W3bbo: Plus it has less space than a Nomad.
41 minutes ago, W3bbo wrote
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Defining a "feature" as being "Microsoft's stack offering" doesn't count.
Android and iPhone both have very capable office suites available for them, ditto music players. I don't think Xbox Live integration is big on many people's lists, and said office suites for Android and iPhone support Sharepoint, DropBox, and many other file hosting services.
Like hell it doesn't count. I don't care if there's some third party app that offers a capable alternative. The company that publishes said alternative app could go belly up tomorrow, and so can any of the file hosting services that you're alluding to. I have a lot more confidence that Microsoft will be around to support these integral apps as long as they'll support the OS.
Bas
It finds lightbulbs.
@W3bbo: How are those not features? That makes no sense at all.
7 hours ago, W3bbo wrote
*snip*93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
It depends on the number of people they asked. Without a sample size, the number is meaningless.
11 hours ago, Bas wrote
Says Microsoft through Dina Bass. Also: 93% customer satisfaction and 66% brand awareness (how do they measure that? What does that even mean?)
I have to admit though: those figures don't look bad for an OS that's so late to the party and has so little to offer. So kudos to you, WP7 team.
The key phrase here is 'shipped to retailers'. All this means is that Microsoft has sold 2 million licenses to phone manufacturers. What we (and developers) need to know is how many of those phones have been sold on to end users. I doubt the figure is 2 million.
4 hours ago, W3bbo wrote
*snip*Defining a "feature" as being "Microsoft's stack offering" doesn't count.
Er, why not?
12 hours ago, W3bbo wrote
*snip*93% satisfaction? How is that possible, WP7's current features are a strict subset of other platforms. The only thing going for it is a relatively cohesive UX, but considering how many things are missing from WinMo 6.x the figure seems artificially high to me.
How is it possible?... look at this forum for inspiration. The first to buy are the most pro-Microsoft. It is just possible that their views are not entirely objective.
W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
Becuase it's like saying Macs aren't as good as Windows PCs because you can't get Office 2010 for it.
A product's features should be defined in terms of what it accomplishes and not bogged down in implementation details.
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