SOA 2.0 = crock of marketing hype.
Read MWD's blog entry
SOA 2.0? Stop the madness.
Fill in the online petition
here if you wish.
As C9's resident spokesmen on all things architecture, it has come to my attention that Gartner and Oracle are guilty again of creating unhelpful marketing hype and spin but this time it could be very harmful.
I've spoken before about how SOA is a sound architectural idea and is being hurt by the very people that wish to sell it. SOA 2.0 term is a very good example of this in action. It's not selling a real innovation just a bunch of products.
OASIS currently are working on create a
standard SOA reference model which will be the foundation of open best practice in this arena, clearly Gartner and Oracle don't really care.
So if you care about good architectural design it's time to stand up and be counted. MWD have an online petition
here which you can sign up to if you wish. Alternatively posting your comment here on C9 is perhaps just as good, but getting the message out that the term 'SOA 2.0' is just a steaming
pile of hype poo is the most important thing.
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wtf.
I don't understand where they are trying to go with this.
SOA 2.0 pffft.
So SOA 2.0 is SOA + EDA? WTF is the point. This is completely retarded.
Complete BS.
I am just getting my colleagues familiar with the principles of SOA, leave it to Oracle to try to screw us all over (again).
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I just finished reading all the SOA 2.0 material I could quickly get my hands on.
This is worse than it appeared at first.
Blatent attempt to hijack the SOA paradigm solely for Systems Marketing; completely misleading and disgusting.
Instead of hijacking SOA and casuing mass confusion and corruption of the idealogy, why couldn't they come up with their own Acronym that truely describes this new proposed model?
Something more along the lines of OSEAFS (Oracle Service Event Application Framework System), so that managers will understand that this is NOT an extension of SOA, but a marketing ploy to sell application systems that break one of the main premises of SOA, abstracting implementation.
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I used to think Gartner was some kind of a independent evaluator of IT but after they praised Sonic ESB I knew they're just paid shills. This just tops the cake. Next up ESB 2.0!
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Yes the branding is unfortunate, and should have the SOA community up in arms! I just signed the petition.
Still, higher level contracts and APIs will be built around SOA concepts, and some will compete with each other for market share. There is some level of abstraction for which the value of advanced or targeted features will be more important than portability or interoperability.
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H4L0PR1CK wrote:
What is MS's position on SOA 2.0? Do they have one yet?
Well it seems Microsofts reaction is equally as strong as our own.
Read this post by John Evdemon of the Architecture Strategy Team. -
Am I getting something wrong? SOA is just an architecture. I mean Service Oriented Architecture - right?
How can that be bound to certain products?
It's like saying: you can only OOP with MS products.
Note: Oracle should fix their bloody database system instead of trying to be innovative. First fix the basic things, then go the the advanced.
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