Hey why does "Beer28" show up some times??
Just wondered what triggers that strip of users / avatars to show that user as "on" ??
I wonder if it's say a browser cookie for example --
that might be telling us that a pc used by that user was used to view C9.
just wondering ....
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Heh, we were just talking about this internally.
It's one of the things we're looking to improve in the next release. -
Sampy wrote:Heh, we were just talking about this internally.
It's one of the things we're looking to improve in the next release.
ok so is it "Deus et Machia" ? (hoping my spelling is right)
spill.... what does it?
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I don't think it is cookies either. I thought for a while it went by IP address or something, but I'm guessing it's some funky homegrown hybrid algorithm that ties in the IP address, posting history, etc.jaylittle wrote:Well the online bar doesn't seem to rely upon any extraneous cookies. After playing in FireFox a bit... it doesn't seem to matter much what cookies are there or not. -
figuerres wrote:"Deus et Machia" ? (hoping my spelling is right)
Deus ex machina
I think on C9 that would be a "Charles ex machina" -
I actually have no idea. Charles will have to come in to comment on that.
All I know is that being able to see who's online (even if it's just a not-super accurate count) is sticking around. -
I have a feeling Charles isn't going to be very revealing about how it actually works.
I feel like we are playing battleship or something. We're just sort of guessing at explanations, and he'll keep us guessing.
C-4. Hit!
C-5. Miss!
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We need to re-architect this (and we are going to). Niners online, as it exists now, is somewhat broken so explaining the implementation details is sort of a waste of time since the architecture is bad and it will change...
Wait until we make one that works much better and we'll share how we do it.
It's primarily database driven and certainly requires cookies (on the client) since we use cookies to preserve online state across requests (and sessions...).
Keep guessing, though.
C
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Does it have to do with the chip that was mailed out from c9 with instructions of how to embed it into your skin? BTW I haven't been feeling so well since I did this.
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figuerres wrote:Hey why does "Beer28" show up some times??
Just wondered what triggers that strip of users / avatars to show that user as "on" ??
I noticed this too with my old account. Logged In one day with my new account and saw my old username and avatar, and thought someone seized my account. So I deleted it. But I guess not since reading this thread.
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Until the end user wipes out their cookies and clears that cache, right?Charles wrote:It's primarily database driven and certainly requires cookies (on the client) since we use cookies to preserve online state across requests (and sessions...).
D-4!Charles wrote:Keep guessing, though.
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Did you get a Nine Guy too? It takes that and triangulates your position via GPS, and then...harumscarum wrote:Does it have to do with the chip that was mailed out from c9 with instructions of how to embed it into your skin? BTW I haven't been feeling so well since I did this.
Hold on. There was just a knock at my door...
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Charles wrote:
Keep guessing, though.
C
PS: What sort of features do you think would be useful to build on top of a working NinersOnline mechanism?
I wanna say there is a passport function in there that is setting a db bit on or off....online = 1 offline = 0
What feature....how about an onHover where it'll display the amount of post and joined date?
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"how does is [sic] work?? [sic]"
poorly
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jsampsonPC wrote:
Also, not exactly related, but will the new framework support Signatures?
I think avatars are enough of a sig.... we don't need sigs here..... I've had enough trouble on other forums with bad sigs.....
and im guessing not a pasport function either as i don't use a passport (i have 3 yippie!!) but still manage to land in the bar... also AFAIK im never technically signed out... on any of the machines that i have signed in on...... -
It's not real time...
the reporting system is slow and flawed. -
Sampy wrote:All I know is that being able to see who's online (even if it's just a not-super accurate count) is sticking around.
Does anyone really use this? Honestly why take time to code it if no one is really using it?
And I think even if we knew how it worked...Charles wouldn't tell us we were right. -
Why would you use the bar to create buddy lists? Wouldn't you add people to your buddy list as you talk to them in here and on the videos once you see who's cool and who's not?
I'm glad you guys are talking about buddy lists a bit. It's something I've been thinking about for a while. In fact, I already wrote some APIs in our new code base for user to user relationships. So far there's a fan relationship allowing someone to say they're a fan of another person and an ignore relationship to say one user would like to ignore another. There is a third relationship which is the friend relationship, but that is just two fan relationships that have been setup between the same two users (i.e. User 1 says they're a fan of User 2 and User 2 says they're a fan of User 1). You're now friends...awwwwwww.
There's no UI for any of this yet though.
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