12 Days till it gets serious...

Yes, this post contains large amount of ranting.

So, only 12 days to go, and my last school year starts in primary school(Or whatever is equal to the school system when you are 15).
This year is gonna contain alot of exams. And well, all the bull**** that the lower parts of the school system gives.

Im very happy this is the last year. I do like to go to school. But i see alot of problems.




1) The pupils are immature. This does not only affect the pupil itself. But it also got a major impact on the class(Including both the teacher and the other pupils).
The teacher gets stressed, angry, and in some cases the teacher tends to be very sad, and simply doesn't WANT to be in the class.
This means the teacher have a very negative attitude. And the pupils can tell this, and it have a major impact on them. When they can feel that the teacher is "down", they can disturb the class even more.

The way the pupil does this, is speaking with the person beside him, throwing things arround, being plan annoying, etc.

Last year, we had the school's BEST english teacher(He is a very good teacher, and his english are great!). He previously have had the class that went out of the school in the beginning of this summer vacation. The class was filled with "hard" boys. They were on drugs, and was behaving very bad against the teacher. This have had some very bad effects on the teacher. He had 1 year off, because of stress and mental problems.

Aswell as my math teacher once was hit by a pupil, and was crying in the class, and talked about how she the most just wanted to go home.

This is the worst thing that can ever happen. It also affects the pupils(At least the serious pupils, the immature one just laughs, and got no idea of how to behave in a public class).




2) The work is uninterresting. This is pretty simple. The things we do, are simply uninterresting, easy, and not fun.
No, not everything can be fun. But this really is the bottom.



3) The mature and people with an IQ higher then a bath swamp gets the same homework, and totally same treatment.

This is fine, from the perspective of the average pupil.
But being not within the average, it is a very big pain. This shows up in biology, english and physics. I understand all that we have learn. But we learn the same stuff over and over again.

Since last year at this time, we have learned basicly 2 things:
About magnetic and atoms.
We used half the year on each subject. But the stuff we learned about magnetic could have been done in 1-2 months! Such a waste of time!
Yet some of the pupils fail to actually understand it!

I think the school should be turned into a more level based system.
As it is now, each year you just move up 1 grade. You should do it more like the university, where you attend classes.


Example: 2 pupils from the same grade, pupil 1 attends class x, while pupil 2 attends class y, because he is z better then pupil one in the subject(Math, for example).
This way would help everybody.

Alot argue that this way splits friends from each other. But i think it got a social advantage aswell. You get to learn people from other grades aswell! And you dont get to sit in a class, having a teacher telling you stuff, you already have been told 3435 times.

If not, the teachers should be more aware of the pupils that are over the "average", and help them. The other thing is a waste of time! And the pupil gets less interrested in going to school.

I could write alot more about this, but the post is getting quite long, so ill stop it here

I don't want to sound like Eagle, but I'm guessing this is in the U.S.?

Harlequin wrote:

I don't want to sound like Eagle, but I'm guessing this is in the U.S.?

Nope, denmark

Some schools do have higher-level classes for students with greater skills in some subjects than most.  Many schools here have advanced classes which are more difficult than the class most tudents take.  In my junior and senior year, I took some classes (Computer Science, Calculus, and Statistics, to be exact) through the school's Advanced Placement program and got college credit for them, because the work was on a college level.

[edit] Of course, I don't know how the school system works in Denmark, so I don't know if you have any programs of this kind at all.

At a certain point I was able to get out of the normal classes and into advanced placement stuff.  It was totally worth it.

CannotResolveSymbol wrote:

Of course, I don't know how the school system works in Denmark, so I don't know if you have any programs of this kind at all.

Sadly, the way the school system works this way:

The primary school is free, as you pay your taxes.
And then school then gets x mill each year, for things like paying the teacher, buildings, power, paper, computers, maintence of the school, etc.
And the last few years, since the current state got power, they have cutted down the amount of money the school gets, by quite alot.

This means the overall quallity of the school have dropped. Therefor, a such program is not possible at all.

We did have, on the 8 and 9th grade, 2 hours 2 days a week, were you have an optional subject. But this was removed to do the cut of the money the school gets.

Harlequin wrote:

I don't want to sound like Eagle, but I'm guessing this is in the U.S.?

Not a chance: we don't start school until late August/early September for primary school.  (Elementary/High School as the US sees it)

None of our students would ever complain about the quality of schooling.  They'd instead complain about how much work they have to do or how much is expected of them.  With great drama.  And much angst.  And rhetoric about fairness.

The sad truth is that the majority of American students see school as a social event.  What to wear, who to see, what to drive, who to do, and how to do them.  I should know - I used to be that kind of student

Of course, being a BAD student in Elem and HS didn't stop me from performing well at college or post-college or getting a job... I just chose to apply myself when it counted...

Harlequin wrote:

I don't want to sound like Eagle, but I'm guessing this is in the U.S.?

That was totally uncalled for... but funny.

ChadK, just deal with it.  Sure, there are advantages to going to an Advanced class, but this leaves you unable to interact with your peers.  It sounds, from your post, like you might be brighter than the rest of the kids around you.  Avoiding them will not help you in the future and in fact, could hurt. 

Remind yourself, every day, that the idiots of the world will usually end up in an appropriate position in society.  But High School is not the real world.  For them, they will look back upon this time as the best time of their lives.  And, it probably is.

You, meanwhile, have the better things to look forward to.

ScanIAm wrote:

ChadK, just deal with it.  Sure, there are advantages to going to an Advanced class, but this leaves you unable to interact with your peers.

I wouldn't care less.
I only speak to 2-3 from my grade. The rest í wouldn't even like to interact with.

Part of school is learning how to deal with those other than the 2-3 you'd prefer to commiserate with. That other 99.9% will be following you around the rest of your life, reminding you that they exist. Ask Charles if I speak the truth.


American students under age 15, are more and more resorting to Home Schooling. Like mine. Ok, so it's the parents that decide this.

My wife doesn't work for money, she works for me and teaches our kids herself. She kicks arse, truth be known, but don't tell her I said that, someone's got to motivate them.

I'd say the one thing I would like to see is free education world-wide based purely on merit. It will never happen. Not enough honest brokers regarding merit, and the everlasting fight for money...


So ChadK, take initiative on your own and present your teacher with research that you undertake on your own. Be it .NET or Astrophysics. That is what makes a student successful -- taking ownership of their education. (It's easy to do with Mom as the teacher).

JohnAskew wrote:

So ChadK, take initiative on your own and present your teacher with research that you undertake on your own. Be it .NET or Astrophysics. That is what makes a student successful -- taking ownership of their education. (It's easy to do with Mom as the teacher).

Well. The danish school system often(All depending on the teacher) doesn't really work like that. You need to be lucky, and get a good teacher, that would actually care.

I wrote an essay about the supernatrual, and included quantum physics and different laws of the gravity, that we haven't even learned about in the school.

I got NO credits for it at all!

JohnAskew wrote:

Part of school is learning how to deal with those other than the 2-3 you'd prefer to commiserate with. That other 99.9% will be following you around the rest of your life, reminding you that they exist. Ask Charles if I speak the truth.

And i do speak to the others, and work with them. If not, all work that requires you to be in groups, would be a hell. Which it sometime is, as the person i work together with, does nothing but walking arround and talk to his friend.
Not that it matters, i just do it all myself.
But i do not seek to talk to them, as they dont like me.


Once we had a few weeks, where we should do a project about a subject of our choiche.
The last day, we was to show it to the other. When you have shown your project, the rest of the pupils can give you question/comments.

The 2, probably worst english talking guys came up with a movie they did in moviemaker, containing text that was more like it was taken from a marketing website. I commented on that, and said in that case, they are way above a A+ mark, unless they have copied it all(Which they obivious had).
They still hate me big time for that.

And in general people seem to not like me. Basicly because i do not speak the same language as them. I dont drink, go to parties, care about girls THAT much, etc., while the other's are living for it. Aswell as people just cant take that i use different words, like explicit and implicit, when i talk(I blame programming!).

Oops, sorry. Think i hit the button twice.