Request for forum for sysadmins

C9 appears to be primarily a site by developers for developers. Great! But at the end of the day the maintenance and distribution and basic user support for the super cool, fascinating, rich, stunning, extensible, innovative, scalable, brilliant, integrated, cross-platform, user-friendly, portable, resource efficient, self-healing, rock solid apps falls to those of us a little less qualified. So I would like to humbly suggest the addition of a forum for system administrators that would serve as a means for feedback and understanding between us and Microsoft Server Systems primarily, as well as others in development.

This has been mentioned in another thread. Just thought it time to give a little more "push".

EDIT: For this to work we would really need the involvement of some of Microsoft's employees in the respective areas such as OS, Sql, Exchange, ect.
I am not talking about an area for us to have techinical questions answered, there are other sources for that, but rather a place where we can gain understanding of where Microsoft is going, and can share our experience of being on that ride.
 
'Cause when you tie your leg to a train, you pretty much go where the train goes.. 

manickernel wrote:

falls to those of us a little less qualified.

Manip wrote:

manickernel wrote:falls to those of us a little less qualified.

I resent that!

System Admins do a different job, not an easier job.


Good point about the forum.

Yep. And bring some great attention to the stuff some of the fascinating teams are doing. Plus, then I get to brag about our 2 new fully populated bladecenters coming in

I don't think channel 9 is the place for a sys admin forum.  Channel 9 is a site for developers as you can see from the video contents. Maybe you could start your own site.

manickernel wrote:

C9 appears to be primarily a site by developers for developers. Great! But at the end of the day the maintenance and distribution and basic user support for the super cool, fascinating, rich, stunning, extensible, innovative, scalable, brilliant, integrated, cross-platform, user-friendly, portable, resource efficient, self-healing, rock solid apps falls to those of us a little less qualified. So I would like to humbly suggest the addition of a forum for system administrators that would serve as a means for feedback and understanding between us and Microsoft Server Systems primarily, as well as others in development.

This has been mentioned in another thread. Just thought it time to give a little more "push".

EDIT: For this to work we would really need the involvement of some of Microsoft's employees in the respective areas such as OS, Sql, Exchange, ect.
I am not talking about an area for us to have techinical questions answered, there are other sources for that, but rather a place where we can gain understanding of where Microsoft is going, and can share our experience of being on that ride.
 
'Cause when you tie your leg to a train, you pretty much go where the train goes.. 

manickernel wrote:

Move to Mexico, they don't have child labor laws down there. Or any real Quality Control..

Really?  I though the focus of channel9 was little Alex the sicko keskos.
 
Two weeks ago YOU told us you were leaving channel9, what happened to make you change your sick little mind? 

Alex, are you a developer? Show off your C++ 1337 skillz you used to use back in your UNIX/Linux programming days..

Names for the new forum (if we get one)

SysChat
RootMsg
127.0.0.1
That guy that restricts what I can do on MY workstation chat

Marsella wrote:

I don't think channel 9 is the place for a sys admin forum.  Channel 9 is a site for developers as you can see from the video contents. Maybe you could start your own site.

I want to add my name to those who request a sys admin forum.

I'm ever more cynical that anything will happen though.  We hear hardly anything from the 5 Guys these days, especially with our ideas and its obvious that despite the obviousness of the problem that is Keskos they aren't willing to do a single thing about it.

Yours disillusionedly...

Yeah. I wonder how long they will leave the competition forums up for? I mean it finished yesterday, I have no clue when the results are announced but it wouldn't shock me if even THEN they didn't take them down.

I know these guys have day jobs but I have seen forums run by 13yr olds that are more well managed..

Excluding filming videos, I don't think between them they spend 20min's reading this forum a day. I believe they have like weekly meetings and THAT is why they all rush in a deal with things all at once, they check it FOR the meeting.

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He posted this today on his blog;

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The SA's should have forum, let the TechNet guys join the Crew.

eagle wrote:

The SA's should have forum, let the TechNet guys join the Crew.

Manip wrote:

Names for the new forum (if we get one)

SysChat
RootMsg
127.0.0.1
That guy that restricts what I can do on MY workstation chat

With the inclusion of 'White-Horse' into Visual Studio 2005 it is apparent that developers must become aware of more than just stitching code together, but understand the development cycle as a whole and all the parts and the players.

Knowing about the target platform BEFORE and DURING development will be a strong evolution for us, one we must embrace to produce a better overall product.

So just having a new Sys-Admins forum as well seem a little short, perhaps architects, testers and project managers too? What about Business Analysts? having their own forums too on C9?

Hmmm, I can see that perhaps things would become a little unwieldy.

The point I’m trying to make is that the beauty of somewhere like C9 is its simplicity towards it's target audience. ‘K.I.S.S.’ springs to mind.

Personally I would welcome additional forums, articles or videos on the where different ‘disciplines’ meet with development to raise appreciation and awareness.

So let’s not dilute c9, but request the other disciplines have their own c9’s equivalents. So we can all concentrate on our areas of excellence.

-Sabot

P.S. ManicKernel, in Britain SysAdmins are usually called ‘Grease-Monkeys’ which is the ‘knick-name’ for mechanics but this can often be shortened to just ‘monkeys’. :o)

P.P.S Keskos, a friendly word of advice, please do not take this as a criticism, (and I would ask that others do not quote me thank you), when you see a post by one of your detractors, simply open a beer, light a hamlet and keep you hands –away- from the keyboard. Relax my friend. ‘Use your words as a tool ... not a weapon.’

Manip ... you know the old saying "never play with children or animals"

As for never hearing the words 'Grease-Monkey' when was the last time you was in a night-club and shouted out to the bouncers ..."Oi come over hear Gorilla?" Do you catch my drift? Are you a SysAdmin Manip? :o)