Apple CEO is a sore loser

heh, I know the title is a bit much...

"Apple & Creative Announce Broad Settlement Ending Legal Disputes Between the Companies"

Wanna know what a sore loser sounds like?

"Creative is very fortunate to have been granted this early patent," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "This settlement resolves all of our differences with Creative, including the five lawsuits currently pending between the companies, and removes the uncertainty and distraction of prolonged litigation."

To me this says "Oh yeah well if we didn't have to wait for Bill in legal we would have gotten the patent"..."Oh and we win because you wont sue us 4 other times, so pffft neener neener neener"

Where the Creative CEO was the man of the hour...

“We’re very pleased to have reached an amicable settlement with Apple and to have opened up significant new opportunities for Creative,” said Sim Wong Hoo, chairman and CEO of Creative.  “Apple has built a huge ecosystem for its iPod and with our upcoming participation in the Made for iPod program we are very excited about this new market opportunity for our speaker systems, our just-introduced line of earphones and headphones, and our future family of X-Fi audio enhancement products. We expect that the one-time licensing payment of $100 million will contribute approximately $.85 of earnings per share to our current quarter, ending September 30, 2006."

He's glad for his company, he's proud of Apple and getting to participate, and he's looking at the financial end of things also...comon this guy has got his act together...

Stevie Jobs has always been a sore loser.  Remember the infamous video where he claims Microsoft has no taste and dont bring culture to their product.  At the time pissed that Microsoft wouldnt bring MS Office to the NeXTStep OS.   Dont forget what he said to Scoble.

ChrisA wrote:

This was one case of being a bad patent.  I wonder how many times Microsoft will be sued, and lose the trial, because of Zune.  Microsoft hasnt won a court case in their 30 years.

MSFT probably already licenses it, if need be.  As ridiculous as patents get these days, I'm sure MSFT would rather just license it and go on.  Or maybe they're doing something really innovative with the UI, who knows.

rjdohnert wrote:

Stevie Jobs has always been a sore loser.  Remember the infamous video where he claims Microsoft has no taste and dont bring culture to their product.

How exactly is he a sore loser for vocing his opinion? Mind you, there are plenty of MS people out there who actually agree with him on this point.

rjdohnert wrote:

Dont forget what he said to Scoble.

What did he say to Scoble?

Edit: I found it ..

"cool, nice to meet you. It's nice to see that you're copying our stuff."

Said whilst talking to a member of the IE team. I think given the presentation of the RSS view in IE7 (*at the time*) it is fair comment - it did bear more than a passing resemblance to Safari's RSS view.

I haven't seen it recently tho ..

jaylittle wrote:



I'd be a sore loser if a company that couldn't compete with my product happened to get a patent for something that I developed and put out to market first because the USPTO is staffed by idiots, and had to shell out a hundred million dollars.

Creative developed and released the Nomad Jukebox a long time before the iPod even existed. It used the menu system described by the patent.
The Nomad Jukebox was only the second hard drive base player to be created after the Hango PJB-100.

Maybe the idea of menu generated on the fly from file metadata isn't all that worth patenting, but I'm not aware of many previous implementations.

The idea is that the menus created are dependant on the way you browse. So you could go by Genre -> Artist -> Album, or Artist->Album, and see different lists.

The Nomad Jukebox came out in 2000, Winamp2 only had a playlist system, it didn't gain the media library till Winamp3 in 2001.

RealJukebox 1 seems to have had a treeview with Artist, Album and Genre catagories, but when you choose an Artist it just gives you a full list of everything by that artist, it doesn't present a second level set of tree nodes that let you further narrow down your search by album.

Remember this Patent was filed in January 2001, months before the iPod was even announced.

I think it was a valid invention at the time for a suitable UI for managing a large music collection on a small device, and Creative were the first to produce something like it. I'm sure it seems obvious now, and every player and music library is built this way, but at the time it actually was rather a clever way to do it.

matt0210 wrote:



rjdohnert wrote: Stevie Jobs has always been a sore loser.  Remember the infamous video where he claims Microsoft has no taste and dont bring culture to their product.

How exactly is he a sore loser for vocing his opinion? Mind you, there are plenty of MS people out there who actually agree with him on this point.

Name them.