NeXTSTEP video.

Funky video of Mr Jobs demoing NeXTSTEP 3 (in 1992).

Just in case you were wondering where all the OSX ideas came from   I still think it is pretty impressive what they managed to do with a whole 50MHz (so you can stop laughing when you see the window contents maintained when dragging them about ).

If anyone has a spare cube floating about that you don't want ... just let me know.

Rossj wrote:

Funky video of Mr Jobs demoing NeXTSTEP 3 (in 1992).

Just in case you were wondering where all the OSX ideas came from   I still think it is pretty impressive what they managed to do with a whole 50MHz (so you can stop laughing when you see the window contents maintained when dragging them about ).

If anyone has a spare cube floating about that you don't want ... just let me know.

I’ll have to look at that when I get to a city (work) that knows what the internet is. I won’t have ADSL at home until Dec 13th apparently. Benefits of a monopoly I suppose.

TRACKING ------*------

That was on VHS.

Did you see the databinding demo? I don't know what surprises me more, that Steve Jobs knows how to use Interface Builder, or that even back in 1992 it was possible to build OSX NeXTSTEP apps without writing a line of code.

HumanCompiler wrote:

Impressive.  So, I don't know the history of nextstep.  Why is Steve Jobs demo'ing it.  What about Macs? 

Steve was ousted from Apple, then proceeded to found NEXT. Later, as part of the deal to bring Steve back to Apple, Apple bought NEXT for $500M.

I saw the video before. NeXTSTEP was indeed awesome at the time and better than Windows 3.0 in many ways.


Regards,
Vincent

Clicking on the links, I think I saw the price of the cube for $11,500. So, ummm... yeah....

(the page is in french, so the $ may not be $US)

edit: Yep. The NextCube + NextDimension == $11,500

dentaku wrote:

TRACKING ------*------

That was on VHS.

My VCR (a Sony) does a "Tracking" display exactly like that.

EDIT: The NeXTSTEP "dock" reminds me a lot of WindowMaker.

HumanCompiler wrote:

Impressive.  So, I don't know the history of nextstep.  Why is Steve Jobs demo'ing it.  What about Macs? 

Steve Jobs left Apple after having all of his power stripped in 1985 (I think). He founded NeXT, which went on to build NeXTSTEP. In 1996 or 1997 Apple bought NeXT, which brought Steve back into the company. He became the interim CEO (or iCEO) and quickly replaced most Apple executives with their NeXT counterparts. Mac OS X is essentially a continuation of NeXTSTEP.

Edit: Minh beat me to it, oh well.

Edit 2: Oh, and Sven Groot, it's no coincidence that the NeXTSTEP dock is a lot like WindowMaker. WindowMaker was based on it.

littleguru wrote:

Edit: Some of the concepts are still very very advanced. Wow! I'm really thrilled.

I particularly like the embedded image updating the linked image in real time. Pretty cool. A lot of this is down (I think) to Objective-C, a lot of people think Objective-C is a poor man's C++ with [[far too] many] square brackets, and tend to write it off before they've expended any effort in learning about what it can do.

Avie Tevanian is responsible for NeXTSTEP (and I believe was involved with MACH) he left Apple last year, to go work with TellMe - if I were Microsoft, I'd buy TellMe just for Avie

littleguru wrote:



Rossj wrote:  littleguru wrote: Edit: Some of the concepts are still very very advanced. Wow! I'm really thrilled. I particularly like the embedded image updating the linked image in real time. Pretty cool. A lot of this is down (I think) to Objective-C, a lot of people think Objective-C is a poor man's C++ with [[far too] many] square brackets, and tend to write it off before they've expended any effort in learning about what it can do.

I'm still wondering why nobody was using this system... Or why it did not win over Windows! It was so much better.

Because the hardware was REALLY expensive and they didn't open it up to other platforms until it was too late.