Which I know they really don't care about...but use reverse psychology with the rest of the world.
1) Provide website to buy "Installation Keys"
2) Sell limited numbers of Media
3) Torrent Vista via ThePirateBay.org (Comon we already know Vista is going to wind up on there -
Too Late)
4) Avoid legal cost of sending C&D to them, avoid remarks made in return
like this one.
5) Laugh at Apple
6) Laugh along Linux
7) Make friends with everyone till they have to pay for a CD Key
8) Profit!
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Cybermagellan
Live for nothing, or die for everything
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rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
That letter was rich, Microsoft could make a ton of friends by dropping 5 of the six versions of Windows Vista and make Ultimate edition the only one and charge the price of Home Basic for it, as well as kill WGA and OGA but I doubt that will happen.
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Yggdrasil
Pour me a cab, 'cause I can't drink no more.
Cybermagellan wrote:3) Torrent Vista via ThePirateBay.org (Comon we already know Vista is going to wind up on there - Too Late)
4) Avoid legal cost of sending C&D to them, avoid remarks made in return like this one.
Look, the US is a ridiculously lawsuit-happy country. It just takes one virus-infested copy of Vista on ThePirateBay for 4,000 customers to sue. That sure costs more than a couple of C&D letters.
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W3bbo
Work hard; increase production; prevent accidents, and be happy.
Yggdrasil wrote:Look, the US is a ridiculously lawsuit-happy country. It just takes one virus-infested copy of Vista on ThePirateBay for 4,000 customers to sue. That sure costs more than a couple of C&D letters.
As it's happening today, those who downloaded the image from the Pirate Bay have no recourse. But I see your point if Microsoft endorsed public BT networks. Microsoft would have to host their own tracker.
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Xaero_Vincent
Sexy me
Hosting Vista torrents on Pirate Bay will be useless because the end user will still need to activate it within 30 days or else be locked out of his or her system.
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alwaysmc2
It's not stupid; It's advanced!
Yggdrasil wrote:Look, the US is a ridiculously lawsuit-happy country.
QFT
Anyway, while Microsoft could save money by torrenting the ISO, it would just push the cost of disk production onto the consumer, because virtual disk drives are no real replacement for the dependability of a real disk. -
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yeah, I agree with you......
Actually I have pirated windows xp b4. It was because my retail version got locked, and I didnt feel like calling windows tech support and explain to them why.......
but because of the WGA stuff, I couldn't dl windows updates, and for someone who is paranoid about security, that's very important...... so I just recently installed my legit copy.... it wasnt that bad.
BUT I heard on twit.tv that Vista is gonna be worse when it comes to activation.... so I may just buy a vista ultmt edition with my new dell .... and if I need to, get a pirated copy so I can move it with my machine or whatever.
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Just the idea of MS doing that makes me want to pirate all microsofts apps..... really....
And what do you mean bring down the price? They already make, what, like 90% profit margin.... cmon.
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Xaero_Vincent
Sexy me
winguy395 wrote:yeah, I agree with you......
Actually I have pirated windows xp b4. It was because my retail version got locked, and I didnt feel like calling windows tech support and explain to them why.......
but because of the WGA stuff, I couldn't dl windows updates, and for someone who is paranoid about security, that's very important...... so I just recently installed my legit copy.... it wasnt that bad.
BUT I heard on twit.tv that Vista is gonna be worse when it comes to activation.... so I may just buy a vista ultmt edition with my new dell .... and if I need to, get a pirated copy so I can move it with my machine or whatever.
Well you're certainly testing the freedom of speech by blurting of your posession of illegitement copies of Windows on a Microsoft-sponsored forum. :O
Regards,
Vincent
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Cybermagellan wrote:7) Make friends with everyone till they have to pay for a CD Key
I don't get this one.
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I am running a retail copy that I bought on Amazon. Would you like me to strip so you can perform a cavity search on me just to make sure i'm not hiding any iso's up my (I need to watch my language)? perhaps you would like me to take a polygraph test?Xaero_Vincent wrote:winguy395 wrote:yeah, I agree with you......Actually I have pirated windows xp b4. It was because my retail version got locked, and I didnt feel like calling windows tech support and explain to them why.......but because of the WGA stuff, I couldn't dl windows updates, and for someone who is paranoid about security, that's very important...... so I just recently installed my legit copy.... it wasnt that bad.BUT I heard on twit.tv that Vista is gonna be worse when it comes to activation.... so I may just buy a vista ultmt edition with my new dell .... and if I need to, get a pirated copy so I can move it with my machine or whatever.Well you're certainly testing the freedom of speech by blurting of your posession of illegitement copies of Windows on a Microsoft-sponsored forum. Regards,Vincent
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PaoloM
Hypermediocrity
winguy395 wrote:yeah, I agree with you......
Actually I have pirated windows xp b4. It was because my retail version got locked, and I didnt feel like calling windows tech support and explain to them why.......
Did Microsoft sell Windows XP b4? I don't recall a beta 4 for Whistler...
winguy395 wrote:but because of the WGA stuff, I couldn't dl windows updates, and for someone who is paranoid about security, that's very important......
And how would have WGA impeded your ability to keep your system secure? What updates weren't you able to download?
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rjdohnert
You will never know success until you know failure
I find that funny, not you thumbtacks but that in a lot of forums and a lot of Linux developers claim Microsoft doesnt know what they are doing, Microsofts bad. Microsoft cant code and etc. etc. Vut they try to mimic or clone Microsoft products all the time.
thumbtacks wrote:
I just downloaded some nice themes for my Gnome desktop. Funny, a couple of them even approach Vista's look.
Cybermagellan wrote:6) Laugh along Linux
http://www.gnome-look.org/
Neutronium
Elegance
LiNsta (LiNsta is Not Vista)
I'm currently running Elegance, and it looks pretty nice. Here is a screenshot from the Gnome site:
I'm liking the repositories out on Ubuntu's site...although it's kind of funny I read an article someplace that compared Ubuntu's progress to the early days of AOL.
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Oh yeah? What about Project Looking Glass? Did they steel that idea too from Microsoft or was it vice versa??!!
rjdohnert wrote:I find that funny, not you thumbtacks but that in a lot of forums and a lot of Linux developers claim Microsoft doesnt know what they are doing, Microsofts bad. Microsoft cant code and etc. etc. Vut they try to mimic or clone Microsoft products all the time.
thumbtacks wrote:
I just downloaded some nice themes for my Gnome desktop. Funny, a couple of them even approach Vista's look.Cybermagellan wrote: 6) Laugh along Linux
http://www.gnome-look.org/
Neutronium
Elegance
LiNsta (LiNsta is Not Vista)
I'm currently running Elegance, and it looks pretty nice. Here is a screenshot from the Gnome site:
I'm liking the repositories out on Ubuntu's site...although it's kind of funny I read an article someplace that compared Ubuntu's progress to the early days of AOL.
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Stewie wrote:Oh yeah? What about Project Looking Glass? Did they steel that idea too from Microsoft or was it vice versa??!!
"Longhorn" predates Project Looking Glass.
PLG started in 2003
"Early in 2003, Hideya Kawahara, a Senior Staff Engineer at Sun Microsystems, had an inspiration. Recognizing that desktops had not changed substantially in 20 years, he set out to make them more aesthetically appealing and more powerful
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He knew that Microsoft was designing a next-generation desktop, but could find no Linux approach that satisfied him. Initially working out of relative ignorance of 3D technologies, he began exploring the potential of 3D desktops on Linux."
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/lookingglass/
"Longhorn" @ WinHEC 2003
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2F2003%2F0509%2Fkaigai01.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
PLG is also predated by other 3D UI projects at Microsoft/Microsoft Research like Task Gallery
http://research.microsoft.com/ui/TaskGallery/index.htm
and Chromeffects and GDI2k
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Farticle%2F980513%2Fkaigai01.htm&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools -
Microsoft has a ton of friends, their called shareholders.
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eagle wrote:Microsoft has a ton of friends,
theirthey're called shareholders.
And they have an obligation to keep them happy, but keeping customers happy means that the shareholders are kept happy when the shareprice goes up (as it has done recently).
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